Just sad that some can no longer see the good things.
I've heard it all before and I'm struggling to see the good things now. If we we have a fantastic season and we finish 1st or 2nd we will be back to where we were 3 years ago to start a new season in the championship. Only we will need further investment to compete with the also runs in that league.
I'm not sure that there is anything Robinson and perhaps even the club can do to win back some fans. The endless negativity and bitter comments are draining. It's really a shame that some people have become almost anti supporters.
I want Duchatelet out as much as anyone but I'm not going to find fault and bile in everything that happens.
Do not give a bollocks what he says as he talks far too much. Just go out and win games. He has a lot to prove as his record as a manager over the past 2 seasons has been crap. Win games that's all you need to do Robinson
I'm not sure that there is anything Robinson and perhaps even the club can do to win back some fans. The endless negativity and bitter comments are draining. It's really a shame that some people have become almost anti supporters.
I want Duchatelet out as much as anyone but I'm not going to find fault and bile in everything that happens.
I know I fit your post and yes I am bitter and yes it is draining but the club can win me back. Quite easily actually, all the club has to do is put right what has been ruined. I doubt though, the owner who is not a Charlton supporter is willing, able or has the skill to do so.
I'm not sure that there is anything Robinson and perhaps even the club can do to win back some fans. The endless negativity and bitter comments are draining. It's really a shame that some people have become almost anti supporters.
I want Duchatelet out as much as anyone but I'm not going to find fault and bile in everything that happens.
I know I fit your post and yes I am bitter and yes it is draining but the club can win me back. Quite easily actually, all the club has to do is put right what has been ruined. I doubt though, the owner who is not a Charlton supporter is willing, able or has the skill to do so.
I do feel your pain. Perhaps a small step on the road to redemption might be to try to find positives. There are some. Quite a few in fact.
Yes huge damage has been done to our club but it is still our club and we are still Charlton supporters who care enough to come on here and post our thoughts. Robinson is trying his best. I doubt anyone thinks he isn't. He's not everyone's cup of tea but he is trying his best. I think he deserves cutting some slack on that alone. Yet a good percentage of supporters can't even find it within themselves to give him that.
I just think so much negativity breeds even more and in the end we won't know what's good and what isn't.
I'm 100% support for Robinson and his team until I find reason not to be just like every other manager and Charlton team in my 57 year support. I'm struggling sometimes but I'm not going to let RD and KM kill me off.
The talk of freedom to do things is definitely showing more this year I think, and a thought has occurred to me...is Roland bored of Charlton? I mean this in a good way, but I get the impression that we're no longer the top of his network clubs anymore like it was for Standard, and he's now being more involved with STTV (they were in contention for European football last season if I remember rightly, more chance of success...). Maybe he's just lost his concentration on us, no longer doing things his way at all and left the club to run properly.
It's a wild and desperate idea I know, but part of me feels confident for this season and it's one of the reasons why
Just sad that some can no longer see the good things.
I've heard it all before and I'm struggling to see the good things now. If we we have a fantastic season and we finish 1st or 2nd we will be back to where we were 3 years ago to start a new season in the championship. Only we will need further investment to compete with the also runs in that league.
It is what it is, we are where we are. We have to move forward.
I am genuinely sad that supporters like yourself are struggling to see the good stuff. Football has always been a fantastic way to escape the worries of life for an hour or two for mè, and I have hated the need to protest but have felt the need to.
I am able to draw a line between the club and the team. That includes our manager, the coaches, the youth and development teams, and most of the staff who work at our club.
I guess I am one of the lucky ones as I am genuinely looking forward to the new season for the 1st time since this mob took over.
I do hope that others can regain some positivity and enjoy some football. Sod Rolly, lets get on with our lives, but still keep him aware of our contempt for the way he runs the club.
It's not bullshit - he's trying to raise the club from the doldrums. He's changed a lot of things. The players are definitely fired up and seem more like the players from the title winning year. Players who want to be here are what I want to see and it's time to move on and support the team. we all want the best for Charlton regardless of the owners so let's go forwards rather than just keep rolling out the same boring and negati
And why are we in the doldrums?
So we can
a) get behind the team and try to play our part in improving things
b) continue to snipe and dig at the club and any fans who dare to show positivity
I think it's fair to be positive of our footballing prospects this season and it's also fair to be negative of the fucktard disrespectful owner and CEO who have at no point genuinely held their hands up and admitted that the shit way they have behaved is the reason we got turned into a laughing stock of a piss poor club and until that time may come there is no redemption from me
People can chose to turn a blind eye to it or not , those who can ignore it are the lucky ones
It's not bullshit - he's trying to raise the club from the doldrums. He's changed a lot of things. The players are definitely fired up and seem more like the players from the title winning year. Players who want to be here are what I want to see and it's time to move on and support the team. we all want the best for Charlton regardless of the owners so let's go forwards rather than just keep rolling out the same boring and negati
And why are we in the doldrums?
So we can
a) get behind the team and try to play our part in improving things
b) continue to snipe and dig at the club and any fans who dare to show positivity
And just as annoying as the negative on all that is Charlton is the positive on any old shit that is Charlton .
We are 3rd tier , scum are 2nd tier , palace are 1st tier Wake up smell the coffee , these are disastrous footballing times in our history no matter how it's dressed up !
He can talk the talk, yet to be convinced he can walk the walk. His insistance on 4-5-1 will be his downfall. With the squad assembled he should be sacked if he fails to make top six, maybe even top two.
Oh, and 'I've only spoken to the owner twice all summer'. You know why Karl? Because he don't give a shit about us.
He can talk the talk, yet to be convinced he can walk the walk. His insistance on 4-5-1 will be his downfall. With the squad assembled he should be sacked if he fails to make top six, maybe even top two.
Oh, and 'I've only spoken to the owner twice all summer'. You know why Karl? Because he don't give a shit about us.
Why will his insistence on 4-5-1 be his downfall? Not many successful teams in world football still use 4-4-2, most use a 4-3-3/4-5-1 system, or the similar 4-2-3-1 system, like ours, with a few using a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 formation. Playing a rigid 4-4-2 with 2 banks of static players doesn't work very often in the modern game. You may point to Millwall last season but actually they scraped into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth, and had a great partnership up front in Morison and Gregory, the kind that doesn't come along too often. Millwall also played boring, ugly long ball football and relied on bullying teams and nicking wins to succeed.
I don't give a crap what he says. What the team does is what matters.
With 5 matches left last season we were 3 points from the drop zone. People seem to forget that. Yes, we ended on a great run, and that was good enough to keep him around, but for much of the year, we stank.
I don't see him as accomplishing ANYTHING yet. Let's see where we are by Christmas and then we can finally start getting an idea. Until then I am withholding judgment.
What in the interview did you think was bullshit ?
“You do not get many bigger winners than Lee Bowyer or Johnnie Jackson,” says Robinson.
Both are good guys but whether Gobby was talking physical stature or number of leagues/cups etc won this is utter bullshit like most of the stuff he comes out with. The idea he has been given any type of "free hand" by the owners is also ridiculous unless it was a free hand with zero budget.
This is just a nicely placed interview by the PR team to boost season ticket sales and Gobby obliges as always.
He did little to endear himself to the fans last year, and in a club where the CEO is now perpetually gagged, he is the complete opposite, and can't stop talking. But I don't care if he wants to spend his time in front of a mike IF he can get us playing football and winning. While a lot of people seem to have taken a bit too much from the Ipswich win, it's nice to be positive for a change. There have beem very few signings since a lot of us were saying the squad looked thin, but we seem to have some good players AND hopefully looking to sign a couple more. We start saturday, and we can dream of a winning start. If we do start well, lets give KR the support and credit he deserves. The interviews may grate with some, but they are not a reason to complain in themselves, and KR knows he needs the fans onside this season. Lets give him that chance, it's our Club.
We are way ahead of where we were this time last year. After all, just before the start of last season, Slade said he needed 6 more players. This year, Robinson said he only needed 4.
He can talk the talk, yet to be convinced he can walk the walk. His insistance on 4-5-1 will be his downfall. With the squad assembled he should be sacked if he fails to make top six, maybe even top two.
Oh, and 'I've only spoken to the owner twice all summer'. You know why Karl? Because he don't give a shit about us.
He only come to speak to Duchatelet as his secretary was off that day.
Oh, and 'I've only spoken to the owner twice all summer'. You know why Karl? Because he don't give a shit about us.
You don't buy a dog and bark yourself. KR's way is possibly a lot cheaper and looking more and more likely to be more successful on the pitch. In those circumstances, as the investor you keep your own input in check and you let them get on with it. He has KM on site to give him updates anyway.
Oh, and 'I've only spoken to the owner twice all summer'. You know why Karl? Because he don't give a shit about us.
You don't buy a dog and bark yourself. KR's way is possibly a lot cheaper and looking more and more likely to be more successful on the pitch. In those circumstances, as the investor you keep your own input in check and you let them get on with it. He has KM on site to give him updates anyway.
Isn't that exactly what Roland did when he bought the club?...
It's not bullshit - he's trying to raise the club from the doldrums. He's changed a lot of things. The players are definitely fired up and seem more like the players from the title winning year. Players who want to be here are what I want to see and it's time to move on and support the team. we all want the best for Charlton regardless of the owners so let's go forwards rather than just keep rolling out the same boring and negati
The bin dipper can give good interviews or bad interviews, he can stand there in a shell suit with hub caps in his hands for all I care, I'll judge him on the first 10 games, talk is cheap, actions is where it's at. Then we will know.
Promoted FC Carl Zeiss Jena are now on the same level as us. RD has always shown more interest in them, and they not only need and appreciate his support for their annual losses but they also crave his €26 million to help fund their new stadium. CAFC have proved troublesome and expensive, and with RBG unwilling to endorse The Valley's commercial development we are now out in the cold. FCC held their pre-season training camp in Sint-Truiden, and played STVV in a psf.
I gave this a 'Like' but I'd suggest you do posts like this under your other account, GlassHalfEmpty.
It's not bullshit - he's trying to raise the club from the doldrums. He's changed a lot of things. The players are definitely fired up and seem more like the players from the title winning year. Players who want to be here are what I want to see and it's time to move on and support the team. we all want the best for Charlton regardless of the owners so let's go forwards rather than just keep rolling out the same boring and negati
I never understand this 'move on and support the team' mantra. Everyone I know who, like me, has been vociferous in their condemnation of the régime has always supported the team to the fullest.
I enjoy Robinson's energy and why it may seem to be a lot of bravado at times,I'd rather have that than total negativity. I still don't like the regime, but I'm completely behind Robinson and the team, and with my Rose coloured specs on I'm feeling decidedly positive for the season. As they say over here "viva Karl, viva Charlton"
Mexico? Chile? Cuba? You can just drop teasers like that in your posts and then leave us hanging. We need to know what exotic climes you inhabit.
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Just sad that some can no longer see the good things.
I want Duchatelet out as much as anyone but I'm not going to find fault and bile in everything that happens.
Yes huge damage has been done to our club but it is still our club and we are still Charlton supporters who care enough to come on here and post our thoughts. Robinson is trying his best. I doubt anyone thinks he isn't. He's not everyone's cup of tea but he is trying his best. I think he deserves cutting some slack on that alone. Yet a good percentage of supporters can't even find it within themselves to give him that.
I just think so much negativity breeds even more and in the end we won't know what's good and what isn't.
I'm 100% support for Robinson and his team until I find reason not to be just like every other manager and Charlton team in my 57 year support. I'm struggling sometimes but I'm not going to let RD and KM kill me off.
I am genuinely sad that supporters like yourself are struggling to see the good stuff. Football has always been a fantastic way to escape the worries of life for an hour or two for mè, and I have hated the need to protest but have felt the need to.
I am able to draw a line between the club and the team. That includes our manager, the coaches, the youth and development teams, and most of the staff who work at our club.
I guess I am one of the lucky ones as I am genuinely looking forward to the new season for the 1st time since this mob took over.
I do hope that others can regain some positivity and enjoy some football. Sod Rolly, lets get on with our lives, but still keep him aware of our contempt for the way he runs the club.
a) get behind the team and try to play our part in improving things
b) continue to snipe and dig at the club and any fans who dare to show positivity
c) support someone else
I know which one I'll be doing
and it's also fair to be negative of the fucktard disrespectful owner and CEO who have at no point genuinely held their hands up and admitted that the shit way they have behaved is the reason we got turned into a laughing stock of a piss poor club and until that time may come there is no redemption from me
People can chose to turn a blind eye to it or not , those who can ignore it are the lucky ones
Fuck off roly and the clueless back and front CEO
We are 3rd tier , scum are 2nd tier , palace are 1st tier
Wake up smell the coffee , these are disastrous footballing times in our history no matter how it's dressed up !
Oh, and 'I've only spoken to the owner twice all summer'. You know why Karl? Because he don't give a shit about us.
With 5 matches left last season we were 3 points from the drop zone. People seem to forget that. Yes, we ended on a great run, and that was good enough to keep him around, but for much of the year, we stank.
I don't see him as accomplishing ANYTHING yet. Let's see where we are by Christmas and then we can finally start getting an idea. Until then I am withholding judgment.
Both are good guys but whether Gobby was talking physical stature or number of leagues/cups etc won this is utter bullshit like most of the stuff he comes out with. The idea he has been given any type of "free hand" by the owners is also ridiculous unless it was a free hand with zero budget.
This is just a nicely placed interview by the PR team to boost season ticket sales and Gobby obliges as always.
But I don't care if he wants to spend his time in front of a mike IF he can get us playing football and winning. While a lot of people seem to have taken a bit too much from the Ipswich win, it's nice to be positive for a change. There have beem very few signings since a lot of us were saying the squad looked thin, but we seem to have some good players AND hopefully looking to sign a couple more. We start saturday, and we can dream of a winning start. If we do start well, lets give KR the support and credit he deserves. The interviews may grate with some, but they are not a reason to complain in themselves, and KR knows he needs the fans onside this season. Lets give him that chance, it's our Club.
Then we will know.
I never understand this 'move on and support the team' mantra. Everyone I know who, like me, has been vociferous in their condemnation of the régime has always supported the team to the fullest.
Mexico? Chile? Cuba? You can just drop teasers like that in your posts and then leave us hanging. We need to know what exotic climes you inhabit.