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How do the Tories need to change?

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  • That c*nt Gove isn't changing, but he is going for it big time trying to re invent himself as Mother Nature. He announced loads of cost neutral initiatives like 'designating' national park type things, and faux concern for animal welfare, which are basic requirements and already covered under the law anyway.
    Perhaps he could source and spend actual money on reducing fly tipping round the corner from me. The devious little s*hit would still never get my vote even if he grew organic tomatoes from the wax in his ears.
  • edited August 2018


    seth plum said:

    So, go on then, what is Tory ideology?
    What informs their 'planning'?

    I don't know, so I will avoid answering the question
    Fixed that for you... :wink:

    Edit - no actually, it's probably more that the truth is pretty unpalatable to most people...

    "Like they are planning how to destroy the lives of the poor, and if possible, kill them, all day every day."
  • Gawd bless 'er, at least she is giving it a go.




    Jesus I am getting old.
  • Jeez, have these people never seen The Thick of It, Mock the Week, HIGNFY???

    When you have a reputation for being a souless, joyless autobot with an obvious lack of people skills...try not to put yourself in a position where you have to dance for the world's media. She's no Ed Balls on the dancefloor is she!

    ...'next up on Channel 5, Moggy does the Macarena"
  • How is Theresa May even a thing?
  • edited September 2018
    Thought this was staggering. Tories 0 seats.

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  • I like how Brighton's over-65s are still going for the Greens :D
  • And they say there's a generation gap!
  • Lewisham East stays Red in every scenario.
    Perhaps that is some kind of sign of a coherent community even if you disagree with their politics.
  • Not that I want to make Sammy Wilson paranoid or anything (mind-numbingly stupid is, in fairness, enough to be getting along with), but I do wonder how Election Maps UK manages to completely ignore the constituencies of the senior partner in the current unofficial coalition....

    Well I had to google him but it was well worth the excursion. Even by the extraordinarily low standards set by MPs, he's come up with some truly heroic comments. I think my favourite was Irish is a Leprechaun Language. Run a close second by The GAA is the sporting wing of the IRA. But there seems to be a lot to choose from and I'm hopeful I'll come up with something more hilarious. Thanks kindly for pointing me in his direction.
  • edited September 2018
    seth plum said:

    Lewisham East stays Red in every scenario.
    Perhaps that is some kind of sign of a coherent community even if you disagree with their politics.

    Labour immigration policies have something to do with it too.
    from the Torygraph

    Mandelsson
    ''The former Cabinet minister confirmed for the first time that New Labour not only welcomed but actively encouraged that mass influx of migrants.

    He conceded that this now poses a major difficulty for the party’s traditional supporters.

    Earlier this year Ed Miliband admitted that the last Labour government was not “sufficiently alive to people's concerns” over immigration and his party got “the numbers wrong”.

    But the party leader stopped short of admitting that immigration was too high.

    Between 1997 and 2010, more than 2.2 million immigrants came to the country - more than twice the population of Birmingham – with the annual net figure quadrupling during their time in office.''
  • edited September 2018

    seth plum said:

    Lewisham East stays Red in every scenario.
    Perhaps that is some kind of sign of a coherent community even if you disagree with their politics.

    Labour immigration policies have something to do with it too.
    from the Torygraph

    Mandelsson
    ''The former Cabinet minister confirmed for the first time that New Labour not only welcomed but actively encouraged that mass influx of migrants.

    He conceded that this now poses a major difficulty for the party’s traditional supporters.

    Earlier this year Ed Miliband admitted that the last Labour government was not “sufficiently alive to people's concerns” over immigration and his party got “the numbers wrong”.

    But the party leader stopped short of admitting that immigration was too high.

    Between 1997 and 2010, more than 2.2 million immigrants came to the country - more than twice the population of Birmingham – with the annual net figure quadrupling during their time in office.''
    Not sure I get your point in relation to Lewisham East.
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  • Thought this was staggering. Tories 0 seats.

    This is what happens when the average 18-24 year old was 8-12 years old in the last recession, when they were 0-6 years old on 9/11 and when none of them were alive to remember the horrors of socialism run amok in communist counties. They just think socialism will make evreryone happy and there is no cost for anything. The average 18-24 year old lives in an intellectual fantasy land.
    The horrors of capitalism leads to around 20 million people with inadequate, second class or no health care in at least one country.
    Too costly to extend to everybody.
  • seth plum said:

    Thought this was staggering. Tories 0 seats.

    This is what happens when the average 18-24 year old was 8-12 years old in the last recession, when they were 0-6 years old on 9/11 and when none of them were alive to remember the horrors of socialism run amok in communist counties. They just think socialism will make evreryone happy and there is no cost for anything. The average 18-24 year old lives in an intellectual fantasy land.
    The horrors of capitalism
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  • seth plum said:

    Thought this was staggering. Tories 0 seats.

    This is what happens when the average 18-24 year old was 8-12 years old in the last recession, when they were 0-6 years old on 9/11 and when none of them were alive to remember the horrors of socialism run amok in communist counties. They just think socialism will make evreryone happy and there is no cost for anything. The average 18-24 year old lives in an intellectual fantasy land.
    The horrors of capitalism
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    I used the phrase 'the horrors of capitalism', as a direct mirror to the phrase 'the horrors of socialism' in the post I quoted and responded to.
    What you're doing here is like a film or theatre reviewer, taking or placing something out of context for some kind of mysterious agenda, like your riff about immigration, which had no bearing on the point I made above regarding Lewisham East.
  • Napa, where are these 18-24yo's getting their idea of this socialist utopia? Certainly not from the popular media who portray May, Boris and JRM as economic geniuses despite their failure to grasp market basics.
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