Guy who posted the tweet is a friend of my daughter and was sitting next to her last night. She's convinced the conversation happened and he is reporting it accurately.
All I would say is that Robinson is the least discreet Charlton manager I can remember. Not that I'm complaining...
Guy who posted the tweet is a friend of my daughter and was sitting next to her last night. She's convinced the conversation happened and he is reporting it accurately.
All I would say is that Robinson is the least discreet Charlton manager I can remember. Not that I'm complaining...
Yes, agree.
He was talking to someone at u21 game last season and having a joke around about someone getting a 4 year contract and how he'd have never have offered that player a deal..
A Championship club probably offered 1.2 million for Grigg...so KR could report on that...a bit of illusion that it was from Charlton. If/when we sell Konsa then our Belgium maestro would have a bit of money to burn, in theory at any rate.
Guy who posted the tweet is a friend of my daughter and was sitting next to her last night. She's convinced the conversation happened and he is reporting it accurately.
All I would say is that Robinson is the least discreet Charlton manager I can remember. Not that I'm complaining...
“I’m having my most unique transfer window ever – I’ve got told there is money to do something but the players who we want to make us better are at clubs who don’t want to make them available.
“It is the case with two strikers. Not just one. Normally I finish transfer windows and I’m frustrated at my club. This time it is frustrating in a different way.
For Will Grigg, read Jonson Clarke-Harris(£1.5m), Chris O'Grady (£600k), Max Gradel (£1.5m).
Weird that we seem to encounter all these problems signing players since Roland turned up. Kermorgant, Wright-Phillips, Darren Bent, Clive Mendonca, Andy Hunt, etc, etc - just went out and signed them, didn't pay over the odds. Wonder why it's so difficult these days.
“I’m having my most unique transfer window ever – I’ve got told there is money to do something but the players who we want to make us better are at clubs who don’t want to make them available. club wont take it seriously and refuse to try and sign someone!!
Can't wait for the faux anger on deadline day again.
On a serious note... this line he actually gives does sound like he's warming up for that frustrated interview at the end of the window.
“I’m having my most unique transfer window ever – I’ve got told there is money to do something but the players who we want to make us better are at clubs who don’t want to make them available.
"Maybe the team might say ‘are we going to get a better bid for him?’ If we went to £1.5million or £2m we’d probably get the deal done. But who in League One goes to that level? That is just astronomical and stupid money. We’ve offered a substantial amount.”"
Trying to put him and the club in a win win situation - if the deal doesn't happen , then they wheel out the old excuse that they refuse to put financial stability of charlton over a player and were put off by the price ... If the deal goes trough , they can say that their investing big money in the squad and a player
It's not completely unique that clubs turn down bids and and say their player is not for sale. I'm sure this is pretty much what Chris Wilder put into the Sheffield press regarding his attempt to sign Ricky Holmes.
Not everything is demanding of Criticism. This one might not be.
What I want to know is why are we putting all our eggs into this one basket now?
Will Grigg | David Tarpey | Matt Godden have all been linked yet it seems as though we're going for Grigg because he's the easy option as he's worked with Karl Robinson before now yet our best player this season is a 31-year old from Bradford?
Its also stupid to have admitted this £1.5m fee as if we do decide to target someone else, that figure is out there now and apart from Maidenhead (and Tarpey), the new club are going to be aware of that sum and will want as much of it themselves
Or maybe the players he wants are being overpriced because people know we actually do have a bit of money.
Who knows - and I know this is radical, but maybe he's telling the truth.
Sorry if it doesn't fit the narrative but that's life sometimes.
We have the richest owner in our history so that will always be the excuse.
We have to deal with it by either paying the money or finding better value elsewhere.
If we're bidding for someone like Grigg in the first place it must be significant, perhaps close to £1m at least.
Is it worth going into the season with only 2 senior strikers for the sake of saving £500k that might be enough to get him?
Under the SCMP rules (financial fair play for our league) owners can put money in as equity rather than a loan, so there's nothing stopping us from spending that sort of fee should Roland choose to. Just down to how much he wants promotion.
Or maybe the players he wants are being overpriced because people know we actually do have a bit of money.
Who knows - and I know this is radical, but maybe he's telling the truth.
Sorry if it doesn't fit the narrative but that's life sometimes.
Maybe he is. But is that good enough?
Footballs is a results business, off the pitch as well as on it. Would Robinson accept his players saying "well I tried to score but the other team had good defenders and a keeper in form"? No, of course not. Obstacles are expected and it is his and Meire's job to overcome them. To find a way.
Be that persuading Duchatelet to provide a bit more money, being better at negotiating, whatever. It's their job to make Charlton successful, not tell the fans why they couldn't do that.
And £1.5m to £2m for a striker who will make a big difference, that can do for us what Billy Sharp did for Sheffield United, is not (or should not be) out of the question. Are we in this league to win it, or not? If yes, let Duchatelet and Meire put their money where their mouth is. If not, then cut the excuses.
Or maybe the players he wants are being overpriced because people know we actually do have a bit of money.
Who knows - and I know this is radical, but maybe he's telling the truth.
Sorry if it doesn't fit the narrative but that's life sometimes.
"That's life" all the time when Karl's around apparently. Always an excuse, never a positive end result. In my humble opinion, Tarbuck is full of shit:
"I'll be honest with you, I made some big mistakes at MK Dons where I was so eager to bring players in so soon," admitted Robinson. "I did it one year and I didn't bring in the type of player that aided the success of the club. And I learned from that very early on.
Not many, if any, clubs in league one would be able to spend 1.5-2m on a striker. By the same token, not many, if any, clubs in league one have sold nearly 12m worth of players in the last year. It works the same way at all levels of the game, clubs know Barcelona have lots of cash after selling Neymar so the prices they're going to quote are going to be inflated. That, coupled with teams knowing we desperately need a forward, will leave us unwilling to spend on a quality player like Grigg and end up paying over the odds for a lesser player or getting a cheap loan in.
A little over 7 days left of the window and nothing looks close. Is KR only talking about strikers too, are we now sticking with Philips. 3-4 new players now 0-1?
Come on, let's get a goalscorer over the line and get out of this league!
I understand KR's frustration & agree that we don't want to pay over the odds. A week to go of the transfer window & clubs are playing cat & mouse. A case of who blinks first. If we don't snap their hands off now we may (or may not) be in a better bargaining position at 11pm next Thursday.
Also remember that some clubs don't need to sell & have a better bargaining position - whereas we have been shipping players out FOR FREE all summer , mainly because they were on big wages. I doubt very much if any League One clubs will sell us a player on the cheap - will probably have to pick up a freebie / loan from a Championship club.
Reason why I kept bleating on in June that we hadn't got the players in. Certain posters on here keep chirping... "window closes in 2 months - players haven't come back for pre-season yet" but that's why its always good to get your business done early. rarely pays to buy on deadline day - just ask 'arry.
Or maybe the players he wants are being overpriced because people know we actually do have a bit of money.
Who knows - and I know this is radical, but maybe he's telling the truth.
Sorry if it doesn't fit the narrative but that's life sometimes.
Maybe he is. But is that good enough?
Footballs is a results business, off the pitch as well as on it. Would Robinson accept his players saying "well I tried to score but the other team had good defenders and a keeper in form"? No, of course not. Obstacles are expected and it is his and Meire's job to overcome them. To find a way.
Be that persuading Duchatelet to provide a bit more money, being better at negotiating, whatever. It's their job to make Charlton successful, not tell the fans why they couldn't do that.
And £1.5m to £2m for a striker who will make a big difference, that can do for us what Billy Sharp did for Sheffield United, is not (or should not be) out of the question. Are we in this league to win it, or not? If yes, let Duchatelet and Meire put their money where their mouth is. If not, then cut the excuses.
I guess this depends on who is paying the £1.5 to £2m. Are you offering to pay it?
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All I would say is that Robinson is the least discreet Charlton manager I can remember. Not that I'm complaining...
Yes, agree.
He was talking to someone at u21 game last season and having a joke around about someone getting a 4 year contract and how he'd have never have offered that player a deal..
“I’m having my most unique transfer window ever – I’ve got told there is money to do something but the players who we want to make us better are at clubs who don’t want to make them available.
“It is the case with two strikers. Not just one. Normally I finish transfer windows and I’m frustrated at my club. This time it is frustrating in a different way.
For Will Grigg, read Jonson Clarke-Harris(£1.5m), Chris O'Grady (£600k), Max Gradel (£1.5m).
Weird that we seem to encounter all these problems signing players since Roland turned up. Kermorgant, Wright-Phillips, Darren Bent, Clive Mendonca, Andy Hunt, etc, etc - just went out and signed them, didn't pay over the odds. Wonder why it's so difficult these days.
Except when talking to a young fan outside the ground.
players who we want to make us better are at clubs who don’t want to make them available.club wont take it seriously and refuse to try and sign someone!!“I’m having my most unique transfer window ever – I’ve got told there is money to do something but the players who we want to make us better are at clubs who don’t want to make them available.
Who knows - and I know this is radical, but maybe he's telling the truth.
Sorry if it doesn't fit the narrative but that's life sometimes.
Trying to put him and the club in a win win situation - if the deal doesn't happen , then they wheel out the old excuse that they refuse to put financial stability of charlton over a player and were put off by the price ...
If the deal goes trough , they can say that their investing big money in the squad and a player
Not everything is demanding of Criticism. This one might not be.
Just saying
Will Grigg | David Tarpey | Matt Godden have all been linked yet it seems as though we're going for Grigg because he's the easy option as he's worked with Karl Robinson before now yet our best player this season is a 31-year old from Bradford?
Its also stupid to have admitted this £1.5m fee as if we do decide to target someone else, that figure is out there now and apart from Maidenhead (and Tarpey), the new club are going to be aware of that sum and will want as much of it themselves
We have to deal with it by either paying the money or finding better value elsewhere.
If we're bidding for someone like Grigg in the first place it must be significant, perhaps close to £1m at least.
Is it worth going into the season with only 2 senior strikers for the sake of saving £500k that might be enough to get him?
Under the SCMP rules (financial fair play for our league) owners can put money in as equity rather than a loan, so there's nothing stopping us from spending that sort of fee should Roland choose to. Just down to how much he wants promotion.
Footballs is a results business, off the pitch as well as on it. Would Robinson accept his players saying "well I tried to score but the other team had good defenders and a keeper in form"? No, of course not. Obstacles are expected and it is his and Meire's job to overcome them. To find a way.
Be that persuading Duchatelet to provide a bit more money, being better at negotiating, whatever. It's their job to make Charlton successful, not tell the fans why they couldn't do that.
And £1.5m to £2m for a striker who will make a big difference, that can do for us what Billy Sharp did for Sheffield United, is not (or should not be) out of the question. Are we in this league to win it, or not? If yes, let Duchatelet and Meire put their money where their mouth is. If not, then cut the excuses.
July
http://www.kentlive.news/i-made-some-big-mistakes-at-mk-dons-with-signings-reveals-charlton-athletic-boss-karl-robinson/story-30447738-detail/story.html
"I'll be honest with you, I made some big mistakes at MK Dons where I was so eager to bring players in so soon," admitted Robinson. "I did it one year and I didn't bring in the type of player that aided the success of the club. And I learned from that very early on.
May
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/24992/charlton-manager-explains-transfer-deals-taking-time/
“Every single player I’m chasing is unfortunately wanted by Championship teams or bigger teams that have been relegated.
“We’re in the same bracket as a lot of clubs that have the same financial pull as ourselves. The better players do that longer to do.”
End of January
"Certain clubs need to look at how they conduct themselves....."
August 2016 at MK
Weirdly similar to the end of January vid.
Come on, let's get a goalscorer over the line and get out of this league!
Also remember that some clubs don't need to sell & have a better bargaining position - whereas we have been shipping players out FOR FREE all summer , mainly because they were on big wages. I doubt very much if any League One clubs will sell us a player on the cheap - will probably have to pick up a freebie / loan from a Championship club.
Reason why I kept bleating on in June that we hadn't got the players in. Certain posters on here keep chirping... "window closes in 2 months - players haven't come back for pre-season yet" but that's why its always good to get your business done early. rarely pays to buy on deadline day - just ask 'arry.