I am surprised so many rely on the so called insider knowledge of the takeover from some posters, even though every prediction up til know has either been way off on timing, entirely wrong, common knowledge already in the press or tidbits so nebulous that, whether right or wrong, they cannot be evaluated after the fact.
It's like the clock being right twice a day. Just because the claim of two o'clock is eventually correct does not mean the prediction was correct. And just because the clock struck two, does not mean the person who made the prediction deserves credit, especially when it comes literally months after the predictions were made.
The fact is, the predictions have all been wrong. And here we are almost half a year later and no one still has much of an idea wtf is going to happen or when.
Whose predictions? I've been careful not to predict anything. Just passed on what I was told, and normally added a caveat. Plenty of people are guessing, but where's the harm in that?
Correct. You have not predicted anything, but you have passed on what one member of the consortium has asked you to. If it has been true or false does not matter as at least we had an insight as to one parties view.
To be strictly accurate our first conversation was pretty random, and I certainly didn’t get the impression that they were trying to get a message out there or anything. In fact he was a bit pissed off how the news spread, even though I asked him if it was ok to share it. Since then it’s been very, very limited, and just a response to me asking if they were pulling out or something. NDAs etc.
I am surprised so many rely on the so called insider knowledge of the takeover from some posters, even though every prediction up til know has either been way off on timing, entirely wrong, common knowledge already in the press or tidbits so nebulous that, whether right or wrong, they cannot be evaluated after the fact.
It's like the clock being right twice a day. Just because the claim of two o'clock is eventually correct does not mean the prediction was correct. And just because the clock struck two, does not mean the person who made the prediction deserves credit, especially when it comes literally months after the predictions were made.
The fact is, the predictions have all been wrong. And here we are almost half a year later and no one still has much of an idea wtf is going to happen or when.
Whose predictions? I've been careful not to predict anything. Just passed on what I was told, and normally added a caveat. Plenty of people are guessing, but where's the harm in that?
Correct. You have not predicted anything, but you have passed on what one member of the consortium has asked you to. If it has been true or false does not matter as at least we had an insight as to one parties view.
To be strictly accurate our first conversation was pretty random, and I certainly didn’t get the impression that they were trying to get a message out there or anything. In fact he was a bit pissed off how the news spread, even though I asked him if it was ok to share it. Since then it’s been very, very limited, and just a response to me asking if they were pulling out or something. NDAs etc.
Or as they used to say at work, “played like a fiddle”. :-)
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
The Aussies have no money. Hmm.
Edit. Tbh I have no idea about whether they have or not.
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
So what the hell would they be buying then? The few players we have left? That would cost about 5 mil. What would they be buying without the ground / training ground? Can't see it myself.
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
The Aussies have no money. Hmm.
Watch this space if the deal is to be done and if it gets done at all the Aussies need to find the investors fast
If not the deal they are now discussing is without the ground and training ground
This is a cast iron fact there ain’t no bullshit here James
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
Roly been on the blower again giving you the inside info?
Not being a billionaire I don't know quite how it works, but couldn't Muir just say, 'Don't worry lads. I've got this', and put his hand in his pocket.
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
Can I be the first to say oh fuck.
Also Muir must have the money, he just doesn't want to spend it or he doesn't have enough of his assets in cash.
Nb if true we may well be better off under RD, because if the Aussies can't afford to buy us they can't afford to run us and then we actually could end up in administration.
If this reaches 1000 pages I can pretty much guarantee the last 30 odd posts on page 999 will be posters just writing ‘1,000’ on the hope they are the one to write the first post on that page.
This always annoys me when people try it. Like can't you count. There are 30 posts per page not all that difficult to work out.
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
Can I be the first to say oh fuck.
Also Muir must have the money, he just doesn't want to spend it or he doesn't have enough of his assets in cash.
The one thing I have learned in my 40 odd years on the planet is that those with hardly anything will give you everything
Those with everything will give you hardly anything
We are losing 13 mil a season in this league will cost a fair few to get us out
The loses in the champ are approx 5-8
To get out will cost a fair few more
Maybe he only wants a % of the risk and why not he has earned his money its only right he watches it carefully
So, are you suggesting that The Valley and the training ground would equal this magic £15 million shortfall since the Greek / two investors were pulled up by the EFL? And so then why would anyone buying, knowing all the current sh*t we've been through (and obviously the 80s) think it's a good idea to do that? Not only would the fans instantly hate them, it goes against their apparent ideals highlighted in the joint statement. They've got to be real f**kwits to think having RD as a landlord is a good idea. Or if the plan is to lease to buy, then why not do that internally? Eg, one or two (or more) of the consortium buy that bigger stake and eventually sell it back to the rest? They must know that we'd be in them like a rash if RD was anywhere near come the takeover. Baffles me. Can it be true? Well who knows, none of this makes sense. I hate it, we all do. It'll end. It won't end us.
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
Can I be the first to say oh fuck.
Also Muir must have the money, he just doesn't want to spend it or he doesn't have enough of his assets in cash.
The one thing I have learned in my 40 odd years on the planet is that those with hardly anything will give you everything
Those with everything will give you hardly anything
We are losing 13 mil a season in this league will cost a fair few to get us out
The loses in the champ are approx 5-8
To get out will cost a fair few more
Maybe he only wants a % of the risk and why not he has earned his money its only right he watches it carefully
But if he’s been working on this for so long, why didn’t this occur to him/them before?
What worries me is that they came in with the right intentions, but the more they found out about the finances of English football, the more it put them off. But two years work, and £1m spent? For them to start penny-pinching right at the end?
Back in the cafc and Aussie consortium negotiation table things take a big backward step
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
Can I be the first to say oh fuck.
Also Muir must have the money, he just doesn't want to spend it or he doesn't have enough of his assets in cash.
The one thing I have learned in my 40 odd years on the planet is that those with hardly anything will give you everything
Those with everything will give you hardly anything
We are losing 13 mil a season in this league will cost a fair few to get us out
The loses in the champ are approx 5-8
To get out will cost a fair few more
Maybe he only wants a % of the risk and why not he has earned his money its only right he watches it carefully
Yes, it's been obvious for a long time that Muir only wants a % of the risk. I reckon the additional investors they went off to talk to a few weeks back didn't stump up. Baring in mind there has always be a question mark over whether they had the funding, I don't understand why the Scots, Saudis et al were allowed to walk away.
1 million spend is a significant amount to spend and shouldn’t be sniffed at but
We also know that atleast two others also done DD
Let’s just say I am certain none of us know all the answers and that there has been a lot of false dawns and info
But if the Aussies don’t find the investors before a given date the next move they make is a buy the name and players and rent the ground and training ground until such a time they have the cash or they sell up to some other punter and he buys it back
Alternatively a second club could be sold we have RD till then and then we get a proper take over
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was pretty random, and I certainly didn’t get the impression that they were trying to get a message out there or anything. In fact he was a bit pissed off how the news spread, even though I asked him if it was ok to share it.
Since then it’s been very, very limited, and just a response to me asking if they were pulling out or something. NDAs etc.
After establishing that NLA was right and they haven’t got the money that RD wants currently
The discussions continue on how hard they are trying to rectify the situation
But currently they would be open to buying the club
Minus
Wait for it it’s a corker
The ground and the training ground
So as I keep saying
The aussies have no money
And we are back at cafc del Amitri day
Because this shit storm was definitely spoke about months ago
What an absolute shit fucking scenario we will face now should the inevitable happen and the Aussies fucked up attempt to find an investor or investors
We won’t be rid of RD
Fucking shambles running the club
Fucking shambles buying the club
Edit. Tbh I have no idea about whether they have or not.
If not the deal they are now discussing is without the ground and training ground
This is a cast iron fact there ain’t no bullshit here James
But hey you don’t have to believe my 100% track record
They including the Belgian coach who gets it direct from Belgium
Remember, we’re all on the same side ultimately.
Also Muir must have the money, he just doesn't want to spend it or he doesn't have enough of his assets in cash.
Nb if true we may well be better off under RD, because if the Aussies can't afford to buy us they can't afford to run us and then we actually could end up in administration.
Those with everything will give you hardly anything
We are losing 13 mil a season in this league will cost a fair few to get us out
The loses in the champ are approx 5-8
To get out will cost a fair few more
Maybe he only wants a % of the risk and why not he has earned his money its only right he watches it carefully
Baffles me. Can it be true? Well who knows, none of this makes sense. I hate it, we all do. It'll end. It won't end us.
What worries me is that they came in with the right intentions, but the more they found out about the finances of English football, the more it put them off.
But two years work, and £1m spent? For them to start penny-pinching right at the end?
You know what. Something doesn’t add up here.
I reckon the additional investors they went off to talk to a few weeks back didn't stump up.
Baring in mind there has always be a question mark over whether they had the funding, I don't understand why the Scots, Saudis et al were allowed to walk away.
We also know that atleast two others also done DD
Let’s just say I am certain none of us know all the answers and that there has been a lot of false dawns and info
But if the Aussies don’t find the investors before a given date the next move they make is a buy the name and players and rent the ground and training ground until such a time they have the cash or they sell up to some other punter and he buys it back
Alternatively a second club could be sold we have RD till then and then we get a proper take over