Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that.
I really wish twitter would go away.
Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations. When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters. How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
I'm sure if ESI had supplied any more meaningful information then Rich would be keen to share it.
We are privileged to take ownership of such an historic club
While we may be the club owners, truly we are only the custodians
Are wholly inaccurate.
Indeed. I was quite relaxed and patient about the situation. We are told the sale is agreed and pending EFL approval. Southall has been walking around the place for weeks like he owns the place already.
Don't drop a post saying "That done deal I mentioned,... yeah, it's not done. Bye" if you're going to be surprised about anybody wanting to actually know why
We are privileged to take ownership of such an historic club
While we may be the club owners, truly we are only the custodians
Are wholly inaccurate.
Indeed. I was quite relaxed and patient about the situation. We are told the sale is agreed and pending EFL approval. Southall has been walking around the place for weeks like he owns the place already.
Don't drop a post saying "That done deal I mentioned,... yeah, it's not done. Bye" if you're going to be surprised about anybody wanting to actually know why
I think the problem with RC's tweet is he uses the phrase "done deal" which could be taken to mean the deal to buy the club from RD, implying a hitch, as opposed to the ratification of the EFL. I am fairly sure he means the latter, but I've asked him on Twitter if he can clarify.
If it's the latter then I suppose it means that ESI and RD have clarified a few things to the EFL's satisfacion but there are still some things they are waiting for.
I think the problem with RC's tweet is he uses the phrase "done deal" which could be taken to mean the deal to buy the club from RD, implying a hitch, as opposed to the ratification of the EFL. I am fairly sure he means the latter, but I've asked him on Twitter if he can clarify.
If it's the latter then I suppose it means that ESI and RD have clarified a few things to the EFL's satisfacion but there are still some things they are waiting for.
A typical holding comment really (from ESI not Cawley). A more eye opening comment would have been that the deal had moved further away, but they would hardly say that!
The reality of the situation is that the deal is (a) being evaluated, (b) rejected or (c) approved, there's no % scale of EFL approval - "we're 0% approved, and expect to get another 9% tomorrow", and we shouldn't expect to be given such a detailed running commentary either.
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this. How complex is the proper running of a football club?
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that.
I really wish twitter would go away.
Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations. When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters. How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this. How complex is the proper running of a football club?
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that.
I really wish twitter would go away.
Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations. When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters. How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
cawleys tweet is probably useful news to a lot of people - to some on this forum its days old info and adds nothing - this forum is blessed with posters who are at the cutting edge of the latest news and try to pass that on despite being asked not to a lot of the time - there's also a few who can't stand not being in the loop and make themselves look like complete prats - the main one was dug out beautifully earlier for that and rightly so
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this. How complex is the proper running of a football club?
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.
The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous.
Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that.
I really wish twitter would go away.
Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations. When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters. How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
cawleys tweet is probably useful news to a lot of people - to some on this forum its days old info and adds nothing - this forum is blessed with posters who are at the cutting edge of the latest news and try to pass that on despite being asked not to a lot of the time - there's also a few who can't stand not being in the loop and make themselves look like complete prats - the main one was dug out beautifully earlier for that and rightly so
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this. How complex is the proper running of a football club?
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.
The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous.
I would say its high pressure as you rightly say. But it's pretty simplistic compared to other organisations with such a high turnover?
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this. How complex is the proper running of a football club?
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.
The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous.
It certainly appears that having no CEO is far better than having a bad one.
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this. How complex is the proper running of a football club?
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.
The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous.
It’s not the opposite at all - a professional football club really is a very simple business to run in comparison to some others. I see both extremes of complexity - bet365 is devilishly difficult to run as it is so complex with very many moving parts - the football club is a walk in the park by comparison.
The biggest issue, as you say, is that pretty much every medium to long-term decision is based on the consequence of a series of football results!
Seems to me that Cawley would be better keeping his yap shut than posting something as annoyingly vague and contradictory as that.
I really wish twitter would go away.
Do you not understand that this is what ESI have told him? If it’s “vague and contradictory” and that’s an issue for you then the fault lies elsewhere.
This why twitter is so rubbish in these situations. When we all want is clarity and some sort of explanation all we get is 140 characters. How is that tweet helpful or revealing new info in a useful context?
cawleys tweet is probably useful news to a lot of people - to some on this forum its days old info and adds nothing - this forum is blessed with posters who are at the cutting edge of the latest news and try to pass that on despite being asked not to a lot of the time - there's also a few who can't stand not being in the loop and make themselves look like complete prats - the main one was dug out beautifully earlier for that and rightly so
@grapevine "Tell me how his standing, beyond his personal life in which I have no interest, differs in anyway with any CEO the club has had over the past 10yrs."
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
@Airman Brown your probably best placed to answer this. How complex is the proper running of a football club?
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
I’d say the opposite. You are running a multi-million pound business under intense public scrutiny.
The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous.
It’s not the opposite at all - a professional football club really is a very simple business to run in comparison to some others. I see both extremes of complexity - bet365 is devilishly difficult to run as it is so complex with very many moving parts - the football club is a walk in the park by comparison.
The biggest issue, as you say, is that pretty much every medium to long-term decision is based on the consequence of a series of football results!
i'd say a background as an agent is probably the perfect grounding to become a football chairman - the business revolves around the main assets and buying and selling them - the players.
i'd say a background as an agent is probably the perfect grounding to become a football chairman - the business revolves around the main assets and buying and selling them - the players.
Hmmm not so sure, a layman who thinks they know more than the people they employ to run the football side is a very dangerous thing.
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Don't drop a post saying "That done deal I mentioned,... yeah, it's not done. Bye" if you're going to be surprised about anybody wanting to actually know why
If it's the latter then I suppose it means that ESI and RD have clarified a few things to the EFL's satisfacion but there are still some things they are waiting for.
The reality of the situation is that the deal is (a) being evaluated, (b) rejected or (c) approved, there's no % scale of EFL approval - "we're 0% approved, and expect to get another 9% tomorrow", and we shouldn't expect to be given such a detailed running commentary either.
The CEO until July 2012 was Steve Kavanagh, who is and was a qualified accountant and had worked as the club's finance director since 2001.
The impression I have is that it's quite a simple business? You only really have a small range of products, 1 or 2 sites of operation. Your revenue streams are quite basic in structure, if not value. The none football side of it is, relatively, a small business. Even the separate business units such as ticketing, catering, hospitality and comms aren't big compared to similar industries.
I understand how a bad CEO, chief executive, chair or what ever title is given to the person running a club, can have a negative effect but it doesn't sound to me like you need to be that qualified or experienced to be able to do a good job.
The impact on the business of things going well / badly (virtually completely driven by the success of the football component) is enormous.
dont be bitchy
The biggest issue, as you say, is that pretty much every medium to long-term decision is based on the consequence of a series of football results!
Oh, and its Scottish. When they leave the Union for the EU they can whistle as well.
Happy New year to one & all.....😃