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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • RichmondSE10Exile
    RichmondSE10Exile Posts: 641
    If anyone starts to mention building a football network that includes Belgian clubs they should go and sit on the naughty step for a while.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,256
    RichmondSE10Exile said:
    If anyone starts to mention building a football network that includes Belgian clubs they should go and sit on the naughty step for a while.
    Maybe Thomas would be interested in buying Sint Truiden ?  :D
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    RichmondSE10Exile said:
    If anyone starts to mention building a football network that includes Belgian clubs they should go and sit on the naughty step for a while.
    Done well a football network can only be a positive, young players get experience abroad at smaller clubs, their best players potentially come over and train/trial with the bigger team, wider scouting network etc.

    Roland had his own weird way of doing it though, just send any random player over to the bigger team and hope for the best.

    With personnel like Mumford and Roddy on board, if we did go down that route now, i'm very confident it'd be done properly and to our benefit.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,614
    Are we past the trial period with Inter yet ?? I'm looking forward to getting some of their players in January  😃
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    edited December 2020
    Remember when Richard Murray announced that 'strategic partnership' with Liverpool after we sold them Shelvey. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,216
    golfaddick said:
    Are we past the trial period with Inter yet ?? I'm looking forward to getting some of their players in January  😃
    Yes we're getting Zanetti, Ronaldo, Zenga and Matterazzi.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited December 2020
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Addickted said:
    African players somehow seem to get automatic Belgian nationality, whether French, Portuguese or English spoken.
    I think Belgium has a ruling where young players from Africa get fast tracked. 

    More and more foreign clubs are buying Belgian clubs. Leicester's owners own Leuven, Monaco's owner owns Cercle Brugge, Aspire Academy in Qatar own Eupen. Man Utd have a partnership with Antwerp and Man City have one with Lommel.

    With our new Brexit rules coming in, i think we may see more clubs take over or do partnership deals with Belgian clubs.
    If we had an owner who could also have control of a club in Belgium and then, you know, move players between the two.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,256
    Chunes said:
    Remember when Richard Murray announced that 'strategic partnership' with Liverpool after we sold them Shelvey. 
    Yes well it took a while but we managed to gift them Joe Gomez
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,203
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Addickted said:
    African players somehow seem to get automatic Belgian nationality, whether French, Portuguese or English spoken.
    I think Belgium has a ruling where young players from Africa get fast tracked. 

    More and more foreign clubs are buying Belgian clubs. Leicester's owners own Leuven, Monaco's owner owns Cercle Brugge, Aspire Academy in Qatar own Eupen. Man Utd have a partnership with Antwerp and Man City have one with Lommel.

    With our new Brexit rules coming in, i think we may see more clubs take over or do partnership deals with Belgian clubs.
    If we had an owner who could also have control of a club in Belgium and then, you know, move players between the two.

    We'd be in dreamland.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    I've got the document that explains all this if anyone wans it - it's a cool 36 pages which will make entertaining reading for later
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited December 2020
    charltonbob said:
    Chunes said:
    Remember when Richard Murray announced that 'strategic partnership' with Liverpool after we sold them Shelvey. 
    Yes well it took a while but we managed to gift them Joe Gomez
    Don’t forget they loaned us Nathan Eccleston - what a signing he was......... since ending his loan with us 9 years ago he has kicked on and scored 6 goals. He was born in Liverpool(actually it was Manchester) but he was made in Charlton. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    edited December 2020
    ricky_otto said:
    charltonbob said:
    Chunes said:
    Remember when Richard Murray announced that 'strategic partnership' with Liverpool after we sold them Shelvey. 
    Yes well it took a while but we managed to gift them Joe Gomez
    Don’t forget they loaned us Nathan Eccleston - what a signing he was......... since ending his loan with us 9 years ago he has kicked on and scored 6 goals. He was born in Liverpool(actually it was Manchester) but he was made in Charlton. 
    I can't find the original article on the the OS, but I seem to remember Murray saying how he knew fans would think this was just another 'partnership' announced to make us feel better, but that this was actually going to be the real deal and a long term partnership that would bring us the best of Liverpool's youth.

    And like you say, we got Nathan Ecclestone, and that was it. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,216
    Didn't we also have a link with a club in Ghana? Hearts of Oak or something like that, never amounted to much either.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Chunes said:
    ricky_otto said:
    charltonbob said:
    Chunes said:
    Remember when Richard Murray announced that 'strategic partnership' with Liverpool after we sold them Shelvey. 
    Yes well it took a while but we managed to gift them Joe Gomez
    Don’t forget they loaned us Nathan Eccleston - what a signing he was......... since ending his loan with us 9 years ago he has kicked on and scored 6 goals. He was born in Liverpool(actually it was Manchester) but he was made in Charlton. 
    I can't find the original article on the the OS, but I seem to remember Murray saying how he knew fans would think this was just another 'partnership' announced to make us feel better, but that this was actually going to be the real deal and a long term partnership that would bring us the best of Liverpool's youth.

    And like you say, we got Nathan Ecclestone, and that was it. 
    Most unlike Murray to tell a porkie. 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    iaitch said:
    Didn't we also have a link with a club in Ghana? Hearts of Oak or something like that, never amounted to much either.
    Asec Mimosas From the Ivory Coast. But funnily enough they striped us up for money money And reneged on everything we had agreed
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    Jordan Rhodes? 
    Only 30 and I think out of contract at Wednesday at the end of this season. 

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    Swisdom said:
    iaitch said:
    Didn't we also have a link with a club in Ghana? Hearts of Oak or something like that, never amounted to much either.
    Asec Mimosas From the Ivory Coast. But funnily enough they striped us up for money money And reneged on everything we had agreed
    I remember that, and can remember a couple of the players' names too, there was a Beko Fofana, Serge Deble and Bakary Soro, and a couple of others. We also had some form of partnership with Ajax Cape Town and Valencia too, of which nothing came of them
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    sam3110 said:
    Swisdom said:
    iaitch said:
    Didn't we also have a link with a club in Ghana? Hearts of Oak or something like that, never amounted to much either.
    Asec Mimosas From the Ivory Coast. But funnily enough they striped us up for money money And reneged on everything we had agreed
    I remember that, and can remember a couple of the players' names too, there was a Beko Fofana, Serge Deble and Bakary Soro, and a couple of others. We also had some form of partnership with Ajax Cape Town and Valencia too, of which nothing came of them
    Cyrian Gohi Bi. Remember him because he was decent on Fifa. Ended up with Roland at Liège and an unsuccessful loan with Fulham a few years ago. Not had a bad career 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    Varney linked us up with a Belgian club well before Roland had even heard of us.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/charlton_athletic/4464294.stm

    Charlton plan to send fringe players to gain experience in Belgium after signing an agreement with Belgian cup holders Germinal Beerschot.The London club already have similar links with New Zealand Knights, MyPa 47 in Finland and China's Shanghai Zobon."This link forms a very important part of our overseas strategy," said Charlton chief executive Peter Varney."The Belgian league is ideal for players not quite ready for the challenge of Premiership."
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    Germinal Beerschot and Shanghai Zobon no longer exist. Isn’t that also true for a couple of our previous shirt sponsors?
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    Another club we linked up with were Herfolge from Denmark after we signed Martin Christensen.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/charlton_athletic/6431855.stm
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Scoham said:
    Germinal Beerschot and Shanghai Zobon no longer exist. Isn’t that also true for a couple of our previous shirt sponsors?
    Nor do NZ Knights... We are a bit of a jinx arent we!!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,835
    Scoham said:
    Germinal Beerschot and Shanghai Zobon no longer exist. Isn’t that also true for a couple of our previous shirt sponsors?
    The curse of Charlton!

    Looking at their wiki page, Beerschot produced some great players

    The youth academy of Beerschot produced the likes of Thomas Vermaelen, Mousa Dembélé, Radja Nainggolan, Jan Vertonghen, and Toby Alderweireld.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Germinal Beerschot. Bah.

    When a certain member of this parish arranges a pre season piss up tour to Antwerp to watch the mighty Addicks destroy their new found 'partners' and the Belgian gits move the game forward by 24 hours so you turn up to an empty stadium.

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