The only person who has agreed a price is Roland. He has agreed a price with himself which he thinks is fair. As for any potential buyers I do not believe a price has been agreed. Had it been then a takeover would have happened by now.
The only person who has agreed a price is Roland. He has agreed a price with himself which he thinks is fair. As for any potential buyers I do not believe a price has been agreed. Had it been then a takeover would have happened by now.
He wants to retain some sort of ownership of Sparrows Lane and/or The Valley.
On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.
He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/
LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent. I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.
LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent. I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.
The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three. LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.
I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic decisions.
He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can.
Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any football club.
Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.
I think I stumbled upon LDT's FF crib sheet on the train.
The way it must work is you first select a group from the left hand column and then apply one of the factors from each of the other columns. At first glance it may seem over simplified, but it has generated many meetings, much discussion and most importantly kept him in a job.
1609, an early version of Three Blind Mice is published in London.
Three incompetent rats, three incompetent rats, See how they run (the club), see how they run (the club), Katie ran off to Sheffield Wednesday, Lievy lies at fans forums on a Wednesday, Did you ever see Roly’s asking price? Three incompetent rats 🐀
On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.
He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/
LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent. I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.
LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent. I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.
The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three. LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.
I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic decisions.
He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can.
Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any football club.
Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.
RD remains the issue no one else.
The ridiculous and ineffective cost cutting IE youth team breakfasts and water are LDT.
Suggesting fans clean the stadium and local streets after games to save money. LDT
Lying and deliberately obstruction bid legimate bonuses.
Failing in his key task of selling the club. LDT
Offering a contract to Bowyer that even Murray didn't understand. LDT
Ultimately, Duchatelet is the problem but LDT is an incompetent part of that problem.
He is totally unskilled and unsuitable for the role he is in. He is incompetent.
1) We know there is genuine interest in buying the club 2) Duchatelet wants far too much money for it
Not sure how anything can change unless the second thing we know changes significantly. Not sure how we can judge potential buyers or criticise them in any way because of their reluctance to pay a ridiculous price.
On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.
He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/
LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent. I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.
LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent. I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.
The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three. LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.
I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic decisions.
He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can.
Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any football club.
Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.
RD remains the issue no one else.
The ridiculous and ineffective cost cutting IE youth team breakfasts and water are LDT.
Suggesting fans clean the stadium and local streets after games to save money. LDT
Lying and deliberately obstruction bid legimate bonuses.
Failing in his key task of selling the club. LDT
Offering a contract to Bowyer that even Murray didn't understand. LDT
Ultimately, Duchatelet is the problem but LDT is an incompetent part of that problem.
He is totally unskilled and unsuitable for the role he is in. He is incompetent.
Still think it’s RD alone.
He has been placed in role by RD and probably doing the best he can with his hands likely tied by RD demands.
Failing to sell the club down to LVT ? I thought we all accepted that was down to RDs asking price.
Not sure what you expect in the circumstances of him or anyone asked to fill in this role. It’s a lose lose for anyone surely.
As I said most can’t take a principled stand and do what they can to get their job done as far as they are able.
Only promotion is going to move this position along more quickly it seems to me.
On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.
He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/
LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent. I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.
LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent. I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.
The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three. LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.
I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic decisions.
He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can.
Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any football club.
Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.
RD remains the issue no one else.
The ridiculous and ineffective cost cutting IE youth team breakfasts and water are LDT.
Suggesting fans clean the stadium and local streets after games to save money. LDT
Lying and deliberately obstruction bid legimate bonuses.
Failing in his key task of selling the club. LDT
Offering a contract to Bowyer that even Murray didn't understand. LDT
Ultimately, Duchatelet is the problem but LDT is an incompetent part of that problem.
He is totally unskilled and unsuitable for the role he is in. He is incompetent.
Still think it’s RD alone.
He has been placed in role by RD and probably doing the best he can with his hands likely tied by RD demands.
Failing to sell the club down to LVT ? I thought we all accepted that was down to RDs asking price.
Not sure what you expect in the circumstances of him or anyone asked to fill in this role. It’s a lose lose for anyone surely.
As I said most can’t take a principled stand and do what they can to get their job done as far as they are able.
Only promotion is going to move this position along more quickly it seems to me.
Yet that won't change the already agreed prices according to LDT.
Sure, it makes the club more attractive but enough to make someone pay £65m?
And I don't think "he's only doing what he's told" is an excuse.
As the senior person on the ground he has responsibility and so has to take some of the blame.
On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.
He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/
LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent. I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.
LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent. I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.
The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three. LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.
I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic decisions.
He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can.
Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any football club.
Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.
RD remains the issue no one else.
The ridiculous and ineffective cost cutting IE youth team breakfasts and water are LDT.
Suggesting fans clean the stadium and local streets after games to save money. LDT
Lying and deliberately obstruction bid legimate bonuses.
Failing in his key task of selling the club. LDT
Offering a contract to Bowyer that even Murray didn't understand. LDT
Ultimately, Duchatelet is the problem but LDT is an incompetent part of that problem.
He is totally unskilled and unsuitable for the role he is in. He is incompetent.
Still think it’s RD alone.
He has been placed in role by RD and probably doing the best he can with his hands likely tied by RD demands.
Failing to sell the club down to LVT ? I thought we all accepted that was down to RDs asking price.
Not sure what you expect in the circumstances of him or anyone asked to fill in this role. It’s a lose lose for anyone surely.
As I said most can’t take a principled stand and do what they can to get their job done as far as they are able.
Only promotion is going to move this position along more quickly it seems to me.
Yet that won't change the already agreed prices according to LDT.
Sure, it makes the club more attractive but enough to make someone pay £65m?
And I don't think "he's only doing what he's told" is an excuse.
As the senior person on the ground he has responsibility and so has to take some of the blame.
Changing the price is not the point. It’s a fools game investing in football. Championship just makes it more interesting and seemingly a better bet.
RD is an autocrat and hence responsibility locally will be very very limited
On reflection, and I should perhaps have pushed this more last night the issue is "agreed price"
LDT said the 5th International group had agreed a price but hadn't completed DD.
So that can only be an initial, indicative price as they haven't been through the books. They will make a lower offer after DD.
But RD takes that initial price as final and won't move from it.
I believe it is the same with the other two groups.
Think you're right about getting to the bottom of these agreed prices he keeps banging on about.
Showing a group around. Telling them the price and them not really saying much or not walking away laughing does not mean they've agreed a price. The fact he doesn't hear much from them again would signal to most that they've long gone. But to our sorry bunch of charlatans they word it that because these groups haven't specifically told them they are no longer interested signals that they still actually are.
These are not the actions of a man desperate to sell and I think we won't be free for a good while yet.
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the table is empty of bids interest and buyers
Oh, you mean LDT
Will the play-off trophy be there?
: - )
LDT said the 5th International group had agreed a price but hadn't completed DD.
So that can only be an initial, indicative price as they haven't been through the books. They will make a lower offer after DD.
But RD takes that initial price as final and won't move from it.
I believe it is the same with the other two groups.
Two years ago that might have sounded interesting, but now...
He has agreed a price with himself which he thinks is fair.
As for any potential buyers I do not believe a price has been agreed.
Had it been then a takeover would have happened by now.
Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.
RD remains the issue no one else.
The way it must work is you first select a group from the left hand column and then apply one of the factors from each of the other columns. At first glance it may seem over simplified, but it has generated many meetings, much discussion and most importantly kept him in a job.
Groups
Price Agreed
FF Meetings
DD Complete?
EFL Check
Aussie
Yes
TBA
Yes
Yes
British
No
TBA
No
No
International
Maybe
TBA
Maybe
Maybe
Mystery X
Who Cares
TBA
Who Cares?
Who Cares?
Mystery Y
Kinda
TBA
Yes and No
Yes and No
Reserved
Not for the land
TBA
Possibly
Don’t know
Reserved
Doesn’t matter
TBA
Taking time
Complex
Three incompetent rats, three incompetent rats,
See how they run (the club), see how they run (the club),
Katie ran off to Sheffield Wednesday,
Lievy lies at fans forums on a Wednesday,
Did you ever see Roly’s asking price?
Three incompetent rats 🐀
Suggesting fans clean the stadium and local streets after games to save money. LDT
Lying and deliberately obstruction bid legimate bonuses.
Failing in his key task of selling the club. LDT
Offering a contract to Bowyer that even Murray didn't understand. LDT
Ultimately, Duchatelet is the problem but LDT is an incompetent part of that problem.
He is totally unskilled and unsuitable for the role he is in. He is incompetent.
1) We know there is genuine interest in buying the club
2) Duchatelet wants far too much money for it
Not sure how anything can change unless the second thing we know changes significantly. Not sure how we can judge potential buyers or criticise them in any way because of their reluctance to pay a ridiculous price.
He has been placed in role by RD and probably doing the best he can with his hands likely tied by RD demands.
Failing to sell the club down to LVT ? I thought we all accepted that was down to RDs asking price.
Not sure what you expect in the circumstances of him or anyone asked to fill in this role. It’s a lose lose for anyone surely.
As I said most can’t take a principled stand and do what they can to get their job done as far as they are able.
Only promotion is going to move this position along more quickly it seems to me.
Sure, it makes the club more attractive but enough to make someone pay £65m?
And I don't think "he's only doing what he's told" is an excuse.
As the senior person on the ground he has responsibility and so has to take some of the blame.
RD is an autocrat and hence responsibility locally will be very very limited
Showing a group around. Telling them the price and them not really saying much or not walking away laughing does not mean they've agreed a price.
The fact he doesn't hear much from them again would signal to most that they've long gone.
But to our sorry bunch of charlatans they word it that because these groups haven't specifically told them they are no longer interested signals that they still actually are.
These are not the actions of a man desperate to sell and I think we won't be free for a good while yet.