Out of the blue from a mate got a message saying, unnamed on here , trying to buy us but funnily enough our owner being difficult .
I looked up the mob who it could be and it makes no sense ... cos they currently own a club but It may be the people who previously owned the business who sold it to them who may be looking to buy us
What a load of shit
Still just a reminder our owner is a back and front (is that allowed )
I blame these new people for delaying the sale and their lack of transparency.
I also blame Oah Aah for getting people's hopes up. If it's not done in 72 hours as he promised it was all lies and spin from Roland.
If I am right in thinking if RD continues to dig is heels in on price, he will continue to lose money, and the team will get weaker as he invests less and less. This means that the club will lose value and realistically he will have to ask for less money later down the line whilst he himself would have spent more money.
None of it makes sense to me.
Roland is the running the clock down to No Deal. At that point we crash out of League 1 and have to start playing teams from the USA, India and Taiwan.
Out of the blue from a mate got a message saying, unnamed on here , trying to buy us but funnily enough our owner being difficult .
I looked up the mob who it could be and it makes no sense ... cos they currently own a club but It may be the people who previously owned the business who sold it to them who may be looking to buy us
What a load of shit
Still just a reminder our owner is a back and front (is that allowed )
I blame these new people for delaying the sale and their lack of transparency.
I also blame Oah Aah for getting people's hopes up. If it's not done in 72 hours as he promised it was all lies and spin from Roland.
I also blame CARD for no particular reason
Corbyns got away with this one then Henry ?
His AS and other misdeeds are real and not for joking about. Also not for main board due to chunes
Wow!!!!!!! Never been itk til now !! Just had a 15 min conversation with Keith Harris in my cab. As open as he could be. Main points were;
RD very difficult man to deal with. Obstinate and refusing to put any more money in
Price agreed but structure of payment (Gomez / Lookman sell ons etc)
Aussies still include Andrew Muir as main consortium member
Aussies will be good for us if they can get it over the line
No other bidders as far as he’s aware
LdT is a nice guy but is RDs man and is working on his behalf hence the comment re the Aussies having some explaining to do when it’s all over is bollox. All down to RD and his stubbornness
(dont shoot the messenger) he said it’s very close. He even hinted at the dreaded “2 weeks”
Aussies not worried about timing of purchase I.e. they wouldn’t wait til end of season just cos transfer window closed
Everything seems in line with as per @JamesSeed has reported. He now tops my itk list of credibility
The bit in bold sounds suspiciously like "third-party ownership" if RD wants to retain a financial stake in these players after he sells the club? would it be worth asking the FA if this is allowed?
He got away with it with that bloke now on loan at palarse, but maybe different rules abroad?
Again though, every month of loses eats away at those fees.
If so could they ask for clarification, if EFL rules permit sellers, to add clauses for further payments to be made from previous player sales or similar ?
I'd be questioning the narrative that "the price is agreed".
Clarification please, do you mean that the basic price has been agreed but RD will not sell, until the buyer agrees to further conditional payments on top of the "agreed basic price".
Specifically, have the fans have been wilfully misled once again ?
Once again if true, I would assert that RD is not being vindictive towards the fans. It is all about him attempting to get all his money back.
I led with “We’ve been told it’s not about price and that it’s been agreed “
He replied “It’s all about the price, but in football it’s about how the price is paid “
I said “for example?? Sell on fees??”
He said “yes,” and mentioned Gomez then Lookman and how he scouted him for Everton
I said “I’m surprised Katrien managed to negotiate sell on fees”
He laughed and agreed that although very intelligent and nice, she was way out of her depth, thrust into a role she had no experience in. He made reference to differences between corporate and company law. He even started to say something negative about her st Sheffield Wednesday but stopped himself and backtracked a little
Perhaps the Aussies should agree to his demands as long as he agrees to pay for the completion of Sparrows Lane ? It would be only fair as the sale proceeds of Lookman was to pay for the SL improvements. We know that is fact because the club told us.
There's always two sides to a story but according to the latest revelations, there are no other bidders and the pendulum of blame for the delay has swung firmly back towards the rat. Now why does that not surprise me
I am pretty sure sell on fees, like in this example, don't constitute 3rd party ownership, as defined. Mainly because RD would have no control over any further transfer, or lack of. Didn't Leeds United and later spurs raise money to by players from 3td party finance companies, who were due a % of future sales?
Wow!!!!!!! Never been itk til now !! Just had a 15 min conversation with Keith Harris in my cab. As open as he could be. Main points were;
RD very difficult man to deal with. Obstinate and refusing to put any more money in
Price agreed but structure of payment (Gomez / Lookman sell ons etc)
Aussies still include Andrew Muir as main consortium member
Aussies will be good for us if they can get it over the line
No other bidders as far as he’s aware
LdT is a nice guy but is RDs man and is working on his behalf hence the comment re the Aussies having some explaining to do when it’s all over is bollox. All down to RD and his stubbornness
(dont shoot the messenger) he said it’s very close. He even hinted at the dreaded “2 weeks”
Aussies not worried about timing of purchase I.e. they wouldn’t wait til end of season just cos transfer window closed
Everything seems in line with as per @JamesSeed has reported. He now tops my itk list of credibility
I am pretty sure sell on fees, like in this example, don't constitute 3rd party ownership, as defined. Mainly because RD would have no control over any further transfer, or lack of. Didn't Leeds United and later spurs raise money to by players from 3td party finance companies, who were due a % of future sales?
We used a 3rd party finance company in the Darren Bent sale.
I am pretty sure sell on fees, like in this example, don't constitute 3rd party ownership, as defined. Mainly because RD would have no control over any further transfer, or lack of. Didn't Leeds United and later spurs raise money to by players from 3td party finance companies, who were due a % of future sales?
We used a 3rd party finance company in the Darren Bent sale.
I am pretty sure sell on fees, like in this example, don't constitute 3rd party ownership, as defined. Mainly because RD would have no control over any further transfer, or lack of. Didn't Leeds United and later spurs raise money to by players from 3td party finance companies, who were due a % of future sales?
We used a 3rd party finance company in the Darren Bent sale.
We needed to raise finance to sell Darren Bent ?
No, where money was due in installments or clauses, we sold it to another firm for less than overall value but got money upfront.
There's always two sides to a story but according to the latest revelations, there are no other bidders and the pendulum of blame for the delay has swung firmly back towards the rat. Now why does that not surprise me
Not quite.
According to Taxi_Lad he said "No other bidders as far as he’s aware" - although you might expect someone as well connected as Harris acting as a broker for a bidder would be 'aware' of other bidders?
Good news and bad news really. Good news that Taxi_Lad got the info from a very good source and its perhaps positive but bad news that there are no other bidders which to be honest fits in with the complete lack of any rumours.
Wow!!!!!!! Never been itk til now !! Just had a 15 min conversation with Keith Harris in my cab. As open as he could be. Main points were;
RD very difficult man to deal with. Obstinate and refusing to put any more money in
Price agreed but structure of payment (Gomez / Lookman sell ons etc)
Aussies still include Andrew Muir as main consortium member
Aussies will be good for us if they can get it over the line
No other bidders as far as he’s aware
LdT is a nice guy but is RDs man and is working on his behalf hence the comment re the Aussies having some explaining to do when it’s all over is bollox. All down to RD and his stubbornness
(dont shoot the messenger) he said it’s very close. He even hinted at the dreaded “2 weeks”
Aussies not worried about timing of purchase I.e. they wouldn’t wait til end of season just cos transfer window closed
Everything seems in line with as per @JamesSeed has reported. He now tops my itk list of credibility
Big question: Was he a Spurs season-ticket holder and have you now convinced him to come and watch Premier League stars of the future?
This brings me back to the suggestion I made on the protest thread. At the next ff might it be worth asking LDT "we appricate that you can not discuss the details of any of the" bids" due to NDAs, would you be prepared to allow an independent 3rd party, under an NDA, to confirm the existence of such NDAs?". Refusal would in its self be an admition of them not existing, at least not in the manor he keeps repeating.
There's always two sides to a story but according to the latest revelations, there are no other bidders and the pendulum of blame for the delay has swung firmly back towards the rat. Now why does that not surprise me
Not quite.
According to Taxi_Lad he said "No other bidders as far as he’s aware" - although you might expect someone as well connected as Harris acting as a broker for a bidder would be 'aware' of other bidders?
My take on that was he was quite dismissive of the idea when I mentioned possibly a British group and a European group
They would be mental to buy the club now with the window closed, we don't look good enough to go up and they would just be financing losses until May. I guess they would have a chance to come in and sign up the players out of contract.
That's the most important thing for me now, making sure we have a squad capable of competing next season, whichever division we are in.
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Again though, every month of loses eats away at those fees.
Roll on the next FF.
If so could they ask for clarification, if EFL rules permit sellers, to add clauses for further payments to be made from previous player sales or similar ?
“We’ve been told it’s not about price and that it’s been agreed “
He replied
“It’s all about the price, but in football it’s about how the price is paid “
I said “for example?? Sell on fees??”
He said “yes,” and mentioned Gomez then Lookman and how he scouted him for Everton
I said “I’m surprised Katrien managed to negotiate sell on fees”
He laughed and agreed that although very intelligent and nice, she was way out of her depth, thrust into a role she had no experience in. He made reference to differences between corporate and company law. He even started to say something negative about her st Sheffield Wednesday but stopped himself and backtracked a little
It would be only fair as the sale proceeds of Lookman was to pay for the SL improvements.
We know that is fact because the club told us.
According to Taxi_Lad he said "No other bidders as far as he’s aware" - although you might expect someone as well connected as Harris acting as a broker for a bidder would be 'aware' of other bidders?
That's the most important thing for me now, making sure we have a squad capable of competing next season, whichever division we are in.