I suspect the Aussies helped feed his delusion when they agreed his price. I also suspect it would be easier to unlock the mysteries of the universe than work out how Duchatelet thinks he has added £10m to the value of Charlton since he purchased it!!!!!
I suspect the Aussies helped feed his delusion when they agreed his price. I also suspect it would be easier to unlock the mysteries of the universe than work out how Duchatelet thinks he has added £10m to the value of Charlton since he purchased it!!!!!
or just state whatever they are prepared to pay - at the moment, we are all in the dark about what the ptice is, wh the aussies are, who the 'brits' are and certainly who all these others are that rd has allegedly knocked back / put off. if there is nobody actually out there it would be a lot easier to get behind the scraps we are having to work with - its the thought that we are having to do that because rd is somehow blocking a better existence. If he is, make yourselves known and lets help unblock it - enough is enough with this rd shit now.
What i would like to see is the others who are apparently queuing up to buy us at a reasonable price, make themselves known. That would put more pressure on him to sell up than anything.Why don;t they do it? If somebody out there is genuinely prepared to buy ua at say £30m and can prove they have the funds and are all above board etc then make yourselves known to us and we will surely all get behind you. BTW - I'm not saying they don't exist but if they make themselves known we can finally do away with the line about rd picking up the bills, stepping in to save us from bankruptcy 4 years ago etc etc - just make yourselves known and as much as driving him out, we, as a fanbase, will help drive you in.Does that not sound like a plan?
IF others were prepared to come forward to make themselves & their offers/situations etc known, then maybe the Aussies would admit defeat and walk away...leaving the field open for fresh negotiations ?
However, whether the Aussies themselves ARE the problem with the current problem ( whatever that might be) , I have no idea.
Really wish I could add something of value to the subject.
All I know is that SOMETHING , one way or the other, is required NOW before our club is reduced to ashes.
And I absolutely HATE doing nothing. Patience is an over rated virtue IMO......
What ever the intent of the owner and despite the speculation or his state of mind and motives (mainly by me !)
We are stuck between a Cock and a hard place. I'm prepared to be expelled from Atheist Athletic(I believe in nothing) and the humanist League ( I don't want you Roland) and pray to the great Large lady in the sky to start singing so Duchatelet's tenure is all over. AMEN.
What i would like to see is the others who are apparently queuing up to buy us at a reasonable price, make themselves known. That would put more pressure on him to sell up than anything.Why don;t they do it? If somebody out there is genuinely prepared to buy ua at say £30m and can prove they have the funds and are all above board etc then make yourselves known to us and we will surely all get behind you. BTW - I'm not saying they don't exist but if they make themselves known we can finally do away with the line about rd picking up the bills, stepping in to save us from bankruptcy 4 years ago etc etc - just make yourselves known and as much as driving him out, we, as a fanbase, will help drive you in.Does that not sound like a plan?
In at least one case, the people quoted £70m plus, they have moved on to look at another club. I doubt if anyone wants to say if and when they buy that their acquisition is their second choice. But either way there is nothing for them to gain once they’ve gone.
What i would like to see is the others who are apparently queuing up to buy us at a reasonable price, make themselves known. That would put more pressure on him to sell up than anything.Why don;t they do it? If somebody out there is genuinely prepared to buy ua at say £30m and can prove they have the funds and are all above board etc then make yourselves known to us and we will surely all get behind you. BTW - I'm not saying they don't exist but if they make themselves known we can finally do away with the line about rd picking up the bills, stepping in to save us from bankruptcy 4 years ago etc etc - just make yourselves known and as much as driving him out, we, as a fanbase, will help drive you in.Does that not sound like a plan?
In at least one case, the people quoted £70m plus, they have moved on to look at another club. I doubt if anyone wants to say if and when they buy that their acquisition is their second choice. But either way there is nothing for them to gain once they’ve gone.
well we remain at an impasse then - if they want us rather than just any club, why not kick up a fuss and try force it through? - are we saying all potential buyers just get knocked back and move onto another club?? not convinced, this whole takeover fiasco just doesn't seem right somehow and if he's blocking genuine interest, it needs exposing, not just, with all due respect, second hand tales of whats gone on
Am I the only person to think that the future of Bowyer might be a more imminent question than the sale of Charlton?
He'll get poached in the summer, then Jackson will take over.
Jacko may look at managerial vacancies elsewhere.
I overheard ard Jacko telling Pratley that he turned down transfers to other teams because he wants to stay at Charlton on the coaching/management side. Said he loved it at the club.
What i would like to see is the others who are apparently queuing up to buy us at a reasonable price, make themselves known. That would put more pressure on him to sell up than anything.Why don;t they do it? If somebody out there is genuinely prepared to buy ua at say £30m and can prove they have the funds and are all above board etc then make yourselves known to us and we will surely all get behind you. BTW - I'm not saying they don't exist but if they make themselves known we can finally do away with the line about rd picking up the bills, stepping in to save us from bankruptcy 4 years ago etc etc - just make yourselves known and as much as driving him out, we, as a fanbase, will help drive you in.Does that not sound like a plan?
In at least one case, the people quoted £70m plus, they have moved on to look at another club. I doubt if anyone wants to say if and when they buy that their acquisition is their second choice. But either way there is nothing for them to gain once they’ve gone.
well we remain at an impasse then - if they want us rather than just any club, why not kick up a fuss and try force it through? - are we saying all potential buyers just get knocked back and move onto another club?? not convinced, this whole takeover fiasco just doesn't seem right somehow and if he's blocking genuine interest, it needs exposing, not just, with all due respect, second hand tales of whats gone on
You’re assuming that these people are stuck on buying Charlton though. Once they’ve been knocked back from having a discussion why would they care enough to say anything? Sounding off won’t force it through. It will probably just cause the old toad to be more difficult.
Perhaps the “British group” is different but you’d have assume at this point that they have something to hide. I know nothing about them except that the ex-directors are satisfied they exist.
If you really imagine Australian businessman Andrew Muir turned up at The Valley nine months after I first disclosed his involvement as some kind of RD hoax then you’re not thinking seriously.
i'm not convinced the aussies aren't a stooge outfit in cahoots with rd - probably not but i haven't ruled it out
They’re definitely not.
I'm not so sure.
Why would a group from the other side of the world let this drag on for as long as it has? It's nonsense . Which in turn fits the Duchatelet way of doing rhings I spoke to Gerard Murphy at length about his plans and the majority of it was laughable.
i'm not convinced the aussies aren't a stooge outfit in cahoots with rd - probably not but i haven't ruled it out
They’re definitely not.
I'm not so sure.
Why would a group from the other side of the world let this drag on for as long as it has? It's nonsense . Which in turn fits the Duchatelet way of doing rhings I spoke to Gerard Murphy at length about his plans and the majority of it was laughable.
What’s your guess, then, that Murphy is on RD’s payroll or has been briefing media outlets since 2017 for kicks? That Muir turned up from the other side of the world as a favour and that lawyers on both sides produced a pretend deal for the EFL?
Mishcon De Reya are in the thick of this. That’s a very expensive hoax.
As I’ve said before it may well be that neither side’s approach is credible and they are wasting each other’s time and money, but that’s not the same thing.
i'm not convinced the aussies aren't a stooge outfit in cahoots with rd - probably not but i haven't ruled it out
They’re definitely not.
I'm not so sure.
Why would a group from the other side of the world let this drag on for as long as it has? It's nonsense . Which in turn fits the Duchatelet way of doing rhings I spoke to Gerard Murphy at length about his plans and the majority of it was laughable.
When I said they’re definitely not I was referring to Doucher’s claim that they’re ‘a stooge outfit in cahoots with RD’. Clearly they’re not.
So maybe the fans reps can send some advance questions in to LDT. For example, if group no.1 have still not submitted financial paperwork in to the EFL, why have they not and when do they plan to, how can they be considered credible potential buyers with such delays in establishing finances etc etc? Of course he can respond he doesn’t know but I can’t see anything is lost in asking these question and other probing ones in advance asking that he come prepared to respond to them.
Odds on if LDT sets the agenda he will just come out with the same old codswallop, unless the fans reps try to shift the dynamics of these Q&A sessions.
So maybe the fans reps can send some advance questions in to LDT. For example, if group no.1 have still not submitted financial paperwork in to the EFL, why have they not and when do they plan to, how can they be considered credible potential buyers with such delays in establishing finances etc etc? Of course he can respond he doesn’t know but I can’t see anything is lost in asking these question and other probing ones in advance asking that he come prepared to respond to them.
Odds on if LDT sets the agenda he will just come out with the same old codswallop, unless the fans reps try to shift the dynamics of these Q&A sessions.
I think those question have already been put ad nauseam.
So maybe the fans reps can send some advance questions in to LDT. For example, if group no.1 have still not submitted financial paperwork in to the EFL, why have they not and when do they plan to, how can they be considered credible potential buyers with such delays in establishing finances etc etc? Of course he can respond he doesn’t know but I can’t see anything is lost in asking these question and other probing ones in advance asking that he come prepared to respond to them.
Odds on if LDT sets the agenda he will just come out with the same old codswallop, unless the fans reps try to shift the dynamics of these Q&A sessions.
I think those question have already been put ad nauseam.
And I would keep asking them of LDT ad nauseam with the context that he cannot essentially keep saying the same thing forum after forum and seriously expect fans to view group 1 as credible bidders. If they have agreed a price what is their timeframe for completing the purchase? Many have said it in the past but I am now firmly of the opinion that LDT fronting up at periodic forums but essentially saying nothing of substance is intended to help keep a lid on protests.
P.S. If the current fans forum reps are tied of asking the same questions I am very happy to come along as the representative and sole member of the Ottershaw, Surrey supporters branch!
Reading both Airman Brown and Nug, two guys that were both creative and positive in the various protests, say that we have lost momentum and Airman saying it would just create more division in our fan base now reflects my own views.
2% doing more extreme things ? that would undo all the creative protests that helped Katrien Miere leave and in the macho world of football, ironically use her gender to get a promotion to a Championship side despite her poor time keeping and ability at CAFC.
The media have been supportive overall to our cause, but Duchatelet is still a hard NUT to crack. Do we need contingency plans for League 2 ? If the take over impassé continues till the summer and the likes of Taylor, Cullen, Williams, Bauer, Aribo leave, then the real possibility of a relegation season 19/20 would ensue from League 1. Would both Lee and Jacko call it a day.
We are snookered, even Ronnie O'Sullivan at his best would struggle to escape from this situation. An owner that prices a football club more than 100% up on its real value.
A Duchatelet family member would need to say cut your losses and move on. Any one on friendly terms with the house of Duchatelet ? Why does it always come back to Richard Murray. No, thought not, back to the drawing board NUG and co.
he is definitely enjoying it 100% if it was just about a sale and losing as little as possible then he would have sold us at the first opportunity
My biggest fear was that this billionaire who has political ambitions and leanings would be vindictive and spiteful and revengeful and make us pay for his second humiliation in football
has not been physically threatened like at standard which I genuinely believe would’ve changed this situation
He has been humiliated he has been humiliated in Belgium, the protests here haven’t bothered him they bothered those left to mop it up , I fully agreed and supported it
He is still being humiliated his hotel constantly having cancellations I fully agree that it was a great tactic
You may think he don’t care but he does you may think we are irrelevant we are because he is rich enough to play this his way until he gets bored and then and only then will this end but right now he is the cat with the mouse
Seeing the lead protagonists trying find ways of re engaging And getting back at him again this is without doubt being fed back to him
This is the true RD the stubborn mean vindictive spiteful cold heartless bastd that made him a billionaire
You can bet your arse he thinks we deserve the anguish and he doesn’t give two shit chalets about it
This is the true RD the stubborn mean vindictive spiteful cold heartless bastd that made him a billionaire
NLA, well that's two of us who think he is getting perverse pleasure out of the situation. Other CL members don't. TBF they are intelligent fans(in some cases !) who go home and away. Why didn't he get rid otherwise when his muse left for 25 to 30 million which was apparently on the table with some small negotiations on monies owed to ex directors which must happen at other football club as well when they are being sold.
Duchatelet couldn't have got where he is today (net worth 500 million) if he didn't know when to buy and sell and cut your losses when need be and move on.
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However, whether the Aussies themselves ARE the problem with the current problem ( whatever that might be) , I have no idea.
Really wish I could add something of value to the subject.
All I know is that SOMETHING , one way or the other, is required NOW before our club is reduced to ashes.
And I absolutely HATE doing nothing. Patience is an over rated virtue IMO......
We are stuck between a Cock and a hard place.
I'm prepared to be expelled from Atheist Athletic(I believe in nothing) and the humanist League ( I don't want you Roland) and pray to the great Large lady in the sky to start singing so Duchatelet's tenure is all over.
AMEN.
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5c36289e5bb79/takeover-update-from-this-evenings-fans-forum
Perhaps the “British group” is different but you’d have assume at this point that they have something to hide. I know nothing about them except that the ex-directors are satisfied they exist.
If you really imagine Australian businessman Andrew Muir turned up at The Valley nine months after I first disclosed his involvement as some kind of RD hoax then you’re not thinking seriously.
Why would a group from the other side of the world let this drag on for as long as it has? It's nonsense . Which in turn fits the Duchatelet way of doing rhings
I spoke to Gerard Murphy at length about his plans and the majority of it was laughable.
Mishcon De Reya are in the thick of this. That’s a very expensive hoax.
As I’ve said before it may well be that neither side’s approach is credible and they are wasting each other’s time and money, but that’s not the same thing.
Clearly they’re not.
Odds on if LDT sets the agenda he will just come out with the same old codswallop, unless the fans reps try to shift the dynamics of these Q&A sessions.
2% doing more extreme things ? that would undo all the creative protests that helped Katrien Miere leave and in the macho world of football, ironically use her gender to get a promotion to a Championship side despite her poor time keeping and ability at CAFC.
The media have been supportive overall to our cause, but Duchatelet is still a hard NUT to crack. Do we need contingency plans for League 2 ? If the take over impassé continues till the summer and the likes of Taylor, Cullen, Williams, Bauer, Aribo leave, then the real possibility of a relegation season 19/20 would ensue from League 1.
Would both Lee and Jacko call it a day.
We are snookered, even Ronnie O'Sullivan at his best would struggle to escape from this situation. An owner that prices a football club more than 100% up on its real value.
A Duchatelet family member would need to say cut your losses and move on. Any one on friendly terms with the house of Duchatelet ? Why does it always come back to Richard Murray.
No, thought not, back to the drawing board NUG and co.
My biggest fear was that this billionaire who has political ambitions and leanings would be vindictive and spiteful and revengeful and make us pay for his second humiliation in football
has not been physically threatened like at standard which I genuinely believe would’ve changed this situation
He has been humiliated he has been humiliated in Belgium, the protests here haven’t bothered him they bothered those left to mop it up , I fully agreed and supported it
He is still being humiliated his hotel constantly having cancellations I fully agree that it was a great tactic
You may think he don’t care but he does you may think we are irrelevant we are because he is rich enough to play this his way until he gets bored and then and only then will this end but right now he is the cat with the mouse
Seeing the lead protagonists trying find ways of re engaging And getting back at him again this is without doubt being fed back to him
This is the true RD the stubborn mean vindictive spiteful cold heartless bastd that made him a billionaire
You can bet your arse he thinks we deserve the anguish and he doesn’t give two shit chalets about it
Duchatelet couldn't have got where he is today (net worth 500 million) if he didn't know when to buy and sell and cut your losses when need be and move on.
I smell a Rat.