Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they thought was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
You're very good at putting people into groups mate ain't you. Getting a few people behind you, ridiculing the 'opposition', then playing the victim when you get a bit back.
My question wasn't a dig at anyone in particular, it was just to ask if there was a genuine reason why all the parties, with RD's say so, can't each put out small official statements** just to say they are involved, no more than that.
** Official Statement - Via their legal teams and not by walking round the ground with scarves on. Which also goes for any other buyer who might do it prematurely, in the future.
Ah but now you have done what you accuse @ShootersHillGuru of. What is wrong with @JamesSeed response there? Absolutely nothing, as far as I can see.
Maybe if you if you review how your post would have read by taking out the phrase Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day you might realise that you are accusing others of that which you yourself are guilty.
In particular while I think James sometimes has made mistakes in his phrasing here (and who does not???) I think it is manifestly unfair to suggest he is "putting people into groups".
This Mike Ashley rumor has no foundation right? Is it purely based on the fact he is British man looking to sell one club?
He has seen how we have been with RD and Newcastle fans have give him some shit over his tenure so why would he bother with fans who take it either? Not saying we are problem because we have been wronged! But from his perspective are we worth the hassle?
We have NO idea who the brits are do we? All we have been told is that they are about but no clue who is involved.
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they thought was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
You're very good at putting people into groups mate ain't you. Getting a few people behind you, ridiculing the 'opposition', then playing the victim when you get a bit back.
My question wasn't a dig at anyone in particular, it was just to ask if there was a genuine reason why all the parties, with RD's say so, can't each put out small official statements** just to say they are involved, no more than that.
** Official Statement - Via their legal teams and not by walking round the ground with scarves on. Which also goes for any other buyer who might do it prematurely, in the future.
Ah but now you have done what you accuse @ShootersHillGuru of. What is wrong with @JamesSeed response there? Absolutely nothing, as far as I can see.
Maybe if you if you review how your post would have read by taking out the phrase Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day you might realise that you are accusing others of that which you yourself are guilty.
In particular while I think James sometimes has made mistakes in his phrasing here (and who does not???) I think it is manifestly unfair to suggest he is "putting people into groups".
I didn't accuse Shootie of anything, I asked if he though his question was a bit sharp in the first place. Re' JS's post, it depends what context you read it in and if you know that as soon as you write something on this thread in relation to the Aussies, it'll get quoted and twisted in few minutes.
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they thought was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
You're very good at putting people into groups mate ain't you. Getting a few people behind you, ridiculing the 'opposition', then playing the victim when you get a bit back.
My question wasn't a dig at anyone in particular, it was just to ask if there was a genuine reason why all the parties, with RD's say so, can't each put out small official statements** just to say they are involved, no more than that.
** Official Statement - Via their legal teams and not by walking round the ground with scarves on. Which also goes for any other buyer who might do it prematurely, in the future.
To be fair, they did previously issue a joint official statement saying they were around. They have not said anything since to say they have pulled out.
A new statement sound good as we are all so keen for news direct from the parties rather than rumour and bull shit. The trouble with them however is that a week later, fans want another, and another, and another. Then if they don’t they will get pelters. Remember the Kuwaiti who put the pic on Twitter and got immediately dumped by RD. I understand why they are silent and hope it gets done soon.
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they thought was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
You're very good at putting people into groups mate ain't you. Getting a few people behind you, ridiculing the 'opposition', then playing the victim when you get a bit back.
My question wasn't a dig at anyone in particular, it was just to ask if there was a genuine reason why all the parties, with RD's say so, can't each put out small official statements** just to say they are involved, no more than that.
** Official Statement - Via their legal teams and not by walking round the ground with scarves on. Which also goes for any other buyer who might do it prematurely, in the future.
What an extraordinary statement, particularly from a mod. How can you possibly extrapolate that from my comment above.
Firstly I didn’t say you were having a dig at all.
There have been comments above about the aggressive tone of some posts, and it’s worth bearing in mind that plain text can be read in different ways by different people depending on their mindset. But your post aimed at me can only be seen as aggressive mate.
Where have I put people into groups, and what groups are you referring to? Where have I ridiculed anybody? I was just giving my view of the scarf wearing, as have many others, but I don’t see you jumping down their throats.
One of the great things about CL is the way people use humour to diffuse situations. Perhaps you’ve misconstrued my attempts at humour as something else, I really don’t know. For example I said recently something like ‘does that get me off (or on?) the scapegoat list’. It was an attempt at humour, not trying to portray myself as a victim.
Of course people have a pop at each other here, but I don’t want to get involved.
I’m more than happy to get involved in an honest debate without malice, however.
If Ashley sells Newcastle then he is the next owner, Aussies just don't have the cash or ability to negotiate, if they did they could bully a purchase - it's as simple as that unfortunately. Our clubs Brexit is an unfulfilled Rexit thus far.
I'm beginning to see this 'contest' between the Aussies and the Brits like two cricketers playing the straightest of bats.
You've got Bill Lawry for the Aussies and Geoff Boycott for the Brits. Neither is prepared to take a chance and each is trying to bore the other into submission. Something has to give, but its best not to hold your breath.
I still find it bizarre, or “weird” if you like, that the British interest has evidently been around for as long (longer?) as the Aussie interest, and yet it’s only the Aussies that seem to have come in for stick (eg “fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”, etc) when it seems to me all they have done is try to be a bit more open about their involvement and intentions.
The Brits must be laughing their tits off, staying under the radar and letting the Aussies cop the flak.
Either way, I say it again, if the price is agreed and the money is in place - as we have been reprleatedly told - then there must be a reason why neither party has completed the deal yet.
Maybe it’s the same reason for both. Maybe each has a different reason - but that surely seems less likely as that would be a particularly unlucky (for us) coincidence. But then again, knowing our luck .....
I'm beginning to see this 'contest' between the Aussies and the Brits like two cricketers playing the straightest of bats.
You've got Bill Lawry for the Aussies and Geoff Boycott for the Brits. Neither is prepared to take a chance and each is trying to bore the other into submission. Something has to give, but its best not to hold your breath.
This Mike Ashley rumor has no foundation right? Is it purely based on the fact he is British man looking to sell one club?
He has seen how we have been with RD and Newcastle fans have give him some shit over his tenure so why would he bother with fans who take it either? Not saying we are problem because we have been wronged! But from his perspective are we worth the hassle?
We have NO idea who the brits are do we? All we have been told is that they are about but no clue who is involved.
Please tell me if I am wrong of course.
If & when the Newcastle sale goes through, my understanding is that he will look to purchase a club in the London area. Which one that is of course, is open to speculation, but the interest is there.
This Mike Ashley rumor has no foundation right? Is it purely based on the fact he is British man looking to sell one club?
He has seen how we have been with RD and Newcastle fans have give him some shit over his tenure so why would he bother with fans who take it either? Not saying we are problem because we have been wronged! But from his perspective are we worth the hassle?
We have NO idea who the brits are do we? All we have been told is that they are about but no clue who is involved.
Please tell me if I am wrong of course.
If & when the Newcastle sale goes through, my understanding is that he will look to purchase a club in the London area. Which one that is of course, is open to speculation, but the interest is there.
I still find it bizarre, or “weird” if you like, that the British interest has evidently been around for as long (longer?) as the Aussie interest, and yet it’s only the Aussies that seem to have come in for stick (eg “fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”, etc) when it seems to me all they have done is try to be a bit more open about their involvement and intentions.
The Brits must be laughing their tits off, staying under the radar and letting the Aussies cop the flak.
Either way, I say it again, if the price is agreed and the money is in place - as we have been reprleatedly told - then there must be a reason why neither party has completed the deal yet.
Maybe it’s the same reason for both. Maybe each has a different reason - but that surely seems less likely as that would be a particularly unlucky (for us) coincidence. But then again, knowing our luck .....
For some reason in my head the British group,should they exist, are loaded but are biding their time and waiting for Duchatelet to lower his price. We know more about the Aussies and how they were/ are planning to fund this and it sounded a bit pitiful to be honest. That's why they are getting the time wasting tag.
I still find it bizarre, or “weird” if you like, that the British interest has evidently been around for as long (longer?) as the Aussie interest, and yet it’s only the Aussies that seem to have come in for stick (eg “fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”, etc) when it seems to me all they have done is try to be a bit more open about their involvement and intentions.
The Brits must be laughing their tits off, staying under the radar and letting the Aussies cop the flak.
Either way, I say it again, if the price is agreed and the money is in place - as we have been reprleatedly told - then there must be a reason why neither party has completed the deal yet.
Maybe it’s the same reason for both. Maybe each has a different reason - but that surely seems less likely as that would be a particularly unlucky (for us) coincidence. But then again, knowing our luck .....
If it's two parties struggling to get the deal over the line then all trouble points to Roland. Shock.
This Mike Ashley rumor has no foundation right? Is it purely based on the fact he is British man looking to sell one club?
He has seen how we have been with RD and Newcastle fans have give him some shit over his tenure so why would he bother with fans who take it either? Not saying we are problem because we have been wronged! But from his perspective are we worth the hassle?
We have NO idea who the brits are do we? All we have been told is that they are about but no clue who is involved.
Please tell me if I am wrong of course.
If & when the Newcastle sale goes through, my understanding is that he will look to purchase a club in the London area. Which one that is of course, is open to speculation, but the interest is there.
I still find it bizarre, or “weird” if you like, that the British interest has evidently been around for as long (longer?) as the Aussie interest, and yet it’s only the Aussies that seem to have come in for stick (eg “fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”, etc) when it seems to me all they have done is try to be a bit more open about their involvement and intentions.
The Brits must be laughing their tits off, staying under the radar and letting the Aussies cop the flak.
Either way, I say it again, if the price is agreed and the money is in place - as we have been repeatedly told - then there must be a reason why neither party has completed the deal yet.
Maybe it’s the same reason for both. Maybe each has a different reason - but that surely seems less likely as that would be a particularly unlucky (for us) coincidence. But then again, knowing our luck .....
I still find it bizarre, or “weird” if you like, that the British interest has evidently been around for as long (longer?) as the Aussie interest, and yet it’s only the Aussies that seem to have come in for stick (eg “fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”, etc) when it seems to me all they have done is try to be a bit more open about their involvement and intentions.
The Brits must be laughing their tits off, staying under the radar and letting the Aussies cop the flak.
Either way, I say it again, if the price is agreed and the money is in place - as we have been reprleatedly told - then there must be a reason why neither party has completed the deal yet.
Maybe it’s the same reason for both. Maybe each has a different reason - but that surely seems less likely as that would be a particularly unlucky (for us) coincidence. But then again, knowing our luck .....
This Mike Ashley rumor has no foundation right? Is it purely based on the fact he is British man looking to sell one club?
He has seen how we have been with RD and Newcastle fans have give him some shit over his tenure so why would he bother with fans who take it either? Not saying we are problem because we have been wronged! But from his perspective are we worth the hassle?
We have NO idea who the brits are do we? All we have been told is that they are about but no clue who is involved.
Please tell me if I am wrong of course.
If & when the Newcastle sale goes through, my understanding is that he will look to purchase a club in the London area. Which one that is of course, is open to speculation, but the interest is there.
Latest on the Newcastle takeover, former Man Utd and Chelsea CEO Peter Kenyon is trying to put a consortium together.
The Newcastle equaivlant of our Aussie takeover. I wonder if Newcastle fans right now are saying "fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”.
I still find it bizarre, or “weird” if you like, that the British interest has evidently been around for as long (longer?) as the Aussie interest, and yet it’s only the Aussies that seem to have come in for stick (eg “fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”, etc) when it seems to me all they have done is try to be a bit more open about their involvement and intentions.
The Brits must be laughing their tits off, staying under the radar and letting the Aussies cop the flak.
Either way, I say it again, if the price is agreed and the money is in place - as we have been reprleatedly told - then there must be a reason why neither party has completed the deal yet.
Maybe it’s the same reason for both. Maybe each has a different reason - but that surely seems less likely as that would be a particularly unlucky (for us) coincidence. But then again, knowing our luck .....
If it's two parties struggling to get the deal over the line then all trouble points to Roland. Shock.
Unless the Aussies really don't have the money and the British bid involes Mike Ashley.
This Mike Ashley rumor has no foundation right? Is it purely based on the fact he is British man looking to sell one club?
He has seen how we have been with RD and Newcastle fans have give him some shit over his tenure so why would he bother with fans who take it either? Not saying we are problem because we have been wronged! But from his perspective are we worth the hassle?
We have NO idea who the brits are do we? All we have been told is that they are about but no clue who is involved.
Please tell me if I am wrong of course.
If & when the Newcastle sale goes through, my understanding is that he will look to purchase a club in the London area. Which one that is of course, is open to speculation, but the interest is there.
And where does your understanding come from?
A former member of the NUFC SMT, who is still close to Mike Ashley, for obvious reasons, I will not name him, however I have no reason to disbelieve him.
Is there any reason why the interested parties wont go a bit more public? Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day, but just to release a small statement to say something along the lines of 'we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon'. At least the fans would know there is something going on
The scarves were just an honest expression of their enthusiasm for the project, (days from what they thought was the completion). Muir also wanted to meet Charlton fans and get a sense of the atmosphere. Obviously they won’t do that again until the sale if it happens.
If they released a statement saying ‘we're in the mix and we hope to complete soon' they’d be widely ridiculed, unfortunately.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t really.
You're very good at putting people into groups mate ain't you. Getting a few people behind you, ridiculing the 'opposition', then playing the victim when you get a bit back.
My question wasn't a dig at anyone in particular, it was just to ask if there was a genuine reason why all the parties, with RD's say so, can't each put out small official statements** just to say they are involved, no more than that.
** Official Statement - Via their legal teams and not by walking round the ground with scarves on. Which also goes for any other buyer who might do it prematurely, in the future.
Ah but now you have done what you accuse @ShootersHillGuru of. What is wrong with @JamesSeed response there? Absolutely nothing, as far as I can see.
Maybe if you if you review how your post would have read by taking out the phrase Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day you might realise that you are accusing others of that which you yourself are guilty.
In particular while I think James sometimes has made mistakes in his phrasing here (and who does not???) I think it is manifestly unfair to suggest he is "putting people into groups".
I didn't accuse Shootie of anything, I asked if he though his question was a bit sharp in the first place. Re' JS's post, it depends what context you read it in and if you know that as soon as you write something on this thread in relation to the Aussies, it'll get quoted and twisted in few minutes.
This is literally a forum for debate. The pro and anti Aussies seem pretty evenly matched, but there's no evidence that the pro Aussie mob are any worse than the anti Aussie mob. Personally I'd say it's the other way round, but then I'm biased. This isn't the plaice for vitriol, and I think you cod do batter ;-)
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Maybe if you if you review how your post would have read by taking out the phrase Not by walking around the ground in scarves on match day
you might realise that you are accusing others of that which you yourself are guilty.
In particular while I think James sometimes has made mistakes in his phrasing here (and who does not???) I think it is manifestly unfair to suggest he is "putting people into groups".
He has seen how we have been with RD and Newcastle fans have give him some shit over his tenure so why would he bother with fans who take it either? Not saying we are problem because we have been wronged! But from his perspective are we worth the hassle?
We have NO idea who the brits are do we? All we have been told is that they are about but no clue who is involved.
Please tell me if I am wrong of course.
One quick question if I may To be fair, they did previously issue a joint official statement saying they were around. They have not said anything since to say they have pulled out.
A new statement sound good as we are all so keen for news direct from the parties rather than rumour and bull shit. The trouble with them however is that a week later, fans want another, and another, and another. Then if they don’t they will get pelters. Remember the Kuwaiti who put the pic on Twitter and got immediately dumped by RD. I understand why they are silent and hope it gets done soon.
Firstly I didn’t say you were having a dig at all.
There have been comments above about the aggressive tone of some posts, and it’s worth bearing in mind that plain text can be read in different ways by different people depending on their mindset. But your post aimed at me can only be seen as aggressive mate.
Where have I put people into groups, and what groups are you referring to? Where have I ridiculed anybody? I was just giving my view of the scarf wearing, as have many others, but I don’t see you jumping down their throats.
One of the great things about CL is the way people use humour to diffuse situations. Perhaps you’ve misconstrued my attempts at humour as something else, I really don’t know. For example I said recently something like ‘does that get me off (or on?) the scapegoat list’. It was an attempt at humour, not trying to portray myself as a victim.
Of course people have a pop at each other here, but I don’t want to get involved.
I’m more than happy to get involved in an honest debate without malice, however.
11 is my lucky number and it's the 11th today....
#f5
The Brits must be laughing their tits off, staying under the radar and letting the Aussies cop the flak.
Either way, I say it again, if the price is agreed and the money is in place - as we have been reprleatedly told - then there must be a reason why neither party has completed the deal yet.
Maybe it’s the same reason for both. Maybe each has a different reason - but that surely seems less likely as that would be a particularly unlucky (for us) coincidence. But then again, knowing our luck .....
Perhaps if we all add a Picasso picture (other painters available) to our post, or maybe just a few additional lines......then we'll get to the promised land of page 1500 a little bit quicker? We should all do anything we can to get rid of Roland!
Which one that is of course, is open to speculation, but the interest is there.
We know more about the Aussies and how they were/ are planning to fund this and it sounded a bit pitiful to be honest. That's why they are getting the time wasting tag.
https://talksport.com/football/472179/newcastle-united-kenyon-investors-takeover/
The Newcastle equaivlant of our Aussie takeover. I wonder if Newcastle fans right now are saying "fuck off”, “move aside”, “they haven’t got the money”.
This isn't the plaice for vitriol, and I think you cod do batter ;-)