The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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James, you offer a cryptic clue and then expect people not to analyse? Seriously?JamesSeed said:
Oh gawd, analysis. That's all we need ;-)harveys_gardener said:What can be the two week significance be? EFL approval? How can it be time limited? £7m loans? If it is an issue now, it will be no less so in a fortnight. No 'difficult two weeks' is the window closing with Bauer Mag and others looking for their coats. Luckily Fosu is stuck here until January. So I believe the takeover is further on the horizon than this and am struggling to find reasons for delays apart from a previously mentioned potential tax issue of RD's 5th anniversary Dec/Jan or a key investor trying to shed his other interest.
I'm guessing you must know more than you let on, otherwise your conversations with GM would be positively weird, judging by the minuscule titbits of titillation you offer. Your loyalty to the Aussie regime is beyond reproach, and loyalty is to me is one of my favourite qualities in a human being. However, loyalty is normally borne out of something tangible such as allegiance, devotion and duty and not imo an occasional coded message that not even you purport to understand.
Com'on James time to spill the beans ... What's going on?
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If and it's a bloody big if, the Aussies do see this through, hard to believe they have not insisted on completion being in time for them to form a proper squad before the transfer window closes.
I think I read somewhere that they had been granted an exclusivity period, does anybody know when that expires?0 -
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Lol. It's almost as if you live in a dystopian universe.Stu_of_Kunming said:Imo, everything is released for a reason and everything is spin.
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Then pay him off. Easy.bertpalmer said:If £4m of the £7m is owed to Murray could it be that the Aussies are willing to roll over the£3m owed to others but not the £4m owed to Murray as they dont want him around?
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I am hoping that by the time the takeover goes through and this thread is no more, there is a cure for Dementia... coz we are all going need one!1
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JamesSeed said:
I don't think the Aussies spin do they? Not sure telling us 'it may be a difficult two weeks' is what most people would call spin. Saying 'we haven't pulled out' isn't spin either.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Not sure how anything I've posted is sniping, this thread isn't just for those that buy into the aussie spin.JamesSeed said:.
Shall we? Yes we shall, Stu. We shall wait and see. In the meantime, snipe away lol.Stu_of_Kunming said:
They have shown nothing though, the spivs said the right things when they came in, as did RD, so let's wait and see, shall we.JamesSeed said:.
No benefit of coursekillerandflash said:
But the longer the takeover is delayed, the worse state the club will be in. There's a massive difference between buying a club in June, and planning for promotion and buying one in September with a season of struggle ahead, especially if they have a 5 year plan. If the 5 year plan turns into a 6 year plan as a result, how does that benefit the Aussies financially?Hex said:
Yes, but that is irrelevant as in 2 weeks, when the transfer window closes, Roland has to fund the monthly loses while the Aussies can sit back and watch the money drain out of Staprix. They are in control now.killerandflash said:
Or from Roland's point of viewHex said:
Or is this a hidden message - "Roland, are you listening ? We know we are your only option. It's too late for us to put together a promotion team for this season so we are not in any hurry to complete a deal. We can wait while your debts pile up ..... unless you agree to our price NOW".JamesSeed said:
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.Moo said:I’m serious, we can hold on for 2 weeks.
"You could have bought the club in June and had a summer to build a promotion side and start your era off on a wave of optimism. Instead, because of the delays you'll go into this season with a mediocre squad (especially when Bauer and Magennis get sold in August), and start your era with a year struggling in L1, racking up losses, and then over spending in the January window to try and save the season"
What numbers is your mum using ;-)Stu_of_Kunming said:
It's not like they're going to tell the world they don't have a clue what they're doing, is it!Moo said:
Well from what James has said they have a five year plan to get us to the premier league. Think we have to hold onto the hope that it will happen.Scoham said:
If it happens the wait will have killed of some of the excitement. Due to the time it's taken there will be a lot more fans having doubts about the Aussies, whether that's fair or not. Looking across social media over the last few weeks I've seen more comments blaming them for the delay or doubting they'll be good for the club.Moo said:
What If the takeover does finally happen? Say end of August. I’m sure it will create a good buzz around the place. We still have the January window to make a big push for promotion. I also believe we have a much better manager this season who can get the best out of our players.Redvalleyeast said:
Then mid table league 1 is the best we can hope for. No strength in depth,injured players already. Its so frustrating, this club has so much potential and for one reason or another,every season is the same. Christ knows what we've done as fans of Charlton to warrant such shit times but im just sick of it. Sad.JamesSeed said:
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.Moo said:I’m serious, we can hold on for 2 weeks.
More chance of my mum winning the lottery than us being in The Prem in 5 years.
Of course you can argue that the chances are we won't get to the Prem in 5 years. But at least they're showing the ambition that the club has lacked for years.
I want the takeover to be a success as much as anyone, I just don't see it working out like it's been said it will.
They could probably do with a little now as it happens. In the absense of facts speculation is understandably rife, and there's an anti Aussie element that's growing. I can see why. We're not all born optimists. Of course it might not work out the way we hope it will, but so far I'm remaining positive.
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Sorry bud, i was being facetious.... ; )Croydon said:
-It'll be worthwhilei_b_b_o_r_g said:
It'll be worthwhileScoham said:
I'm anticipating a difficult season ahead.JamesSeed said:ok but please don’t shoot the messenger:
GM anticipating ‘a difficult two weeks ahead’.
But also that ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’.
Which is slightly depressing if you hoped it would happen before the start of the season, but positive if you thought it wouldn’t happen this season at all, or they were pulling out.
I’m sure he’d want to apologise for not being able to share any proper details, but if you start breaking NDAs you immedistely lose all business credibility.
[*turns off phone, dives for cover*]
PS 16/1 is poor value.
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You think They release what they do for laughs rather than impact?JamesSeed said:.
Lol. It's almost as if you live in a dystopian universe.Stu_of_Kunming said:Imo, everything is released for a reason and everything is spin.
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No beans to spill, I really dont know more than I let on, other than personal stuff. Since the beer meeting I've only have two or three fairly brief phone conversations, and he's been extremely careful not to spill the beans or break confidentiality. He thought far too much came out after our beer meeting, despite saying it would be fine to share, so he's now much more careful. Especially as I'm now a known associate. It'll be ok once sale is concluded though.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
James, you offer a cryptic clue and then expect people not to analyse? Seriously?JamesSeed said:
Oh gawd, analysis. That's all we need ;-)harveys_gardener said:What can be the two week significance be? EFL approval? How can it be time limited? £7m loans? If it is an issue now, it will be no less so in a fortnight. No 'difficult two weeks' is the window closing with Bauer Mag and others looking for their coats. Luckily Fosu is stuck here until January. So I believe the takeover is further on the horizon than this and am struggling to find reasons for delays apart from a previously mentioned potential tax issue of RD's 5th anniversary Dec/Jan or a key investor trying to shed his other interest.
I'm guessing you must know more than you let on, otherwise your conversations with GM would be positively weird, judging by the minuscule titbits of titillation you offer. Your loyalty to the Aussie regime is beyond reproach, and loyalty is to me is one of my favourite qualities in a human being. However, loyalty is normally borne out of something tangible such as allegiance, devotion and duty and not imo an occasional coded message that not even you purport to understand.
Com'on James time to spill the beans ... What's going on?2 -
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Possibly, but I don't want to subscribe. What did it say?flyingkiwiDK said:This could be relevant...
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What do they release? I may have missed it.Stu_of_Kunming said:
You think They release what they do for laughs rather than impact?JamesSeed said:.
Lol. It's almost as if you live in a dystopian universe.Stu_of_Kunming said:Imo, everything is released for a reason and everything is spin.
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“If” the sale is concluded...JamesSeed said:
No beans to spill, I really dont know more than I let on, other than personal stuff. Since the beer meeting I've only have two or three fairly brief phone conversations, and he's been extremely careful not to spill the beans or break confidentiality. He thought far too much came out after our beer meeting, despite saying it would be fine to share, so he's now much more careful. Especially as I'm now a known associate. It'll be ok once sale is concluded though.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
James, you offer a cryptic clue and then expect people not to analyse? Seriously?JamesSeed said:
Oh gawd, analysis. That's all we need ;-)harveys_gardener said:What can be the two week significance be? EFL approval? How can it be time limited? £7m loans? If it is an issue now, it will be no less so in a fortnight. No 'difficult two weeks' is the window closing with Bauer Mag and others looking for their coats. Luckily Fosu is stuck here until January. So I believe the takeover is further on the horizon than this and am struggling to find reasons for delays apart from a previously mentioned potential tax issue of RD's 5th anniversary Dec/Jan or a key investor trying to shed his other interest.
I'm guessing you must know more than you let on, otherwise your conversations with GM would be positively weird, judging by the minuscule titbits of titillation you offer. Your loyalty to the Aussie regime is beyond reproach, and loyalty is to me is one of my favourite qualities in a human being. However, loyalty is normally borne out of something tangible such as allegiance, devotion and duty and not imo an occasional coded message that not even you purport to understand.
Com'on James time to spill the beans ... What's going on?6 -
He said 'when'.Scoham said:
“If” the sale is concluded...JamesSeed said:
No beans to spill, I really dont know more than I let on, other than personal stuff. Since the beer meeting I've only have two or three fairly brief phone conversations, and he's been extremely careful not to spill the beans or break confidentiality. He thought far too much came out after our beer meeting, despite saying it would be fine to share, so he's now much more careful. Especially as I'm now a known associate. It'll be ok once sale is concluded though.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
James, you offer a cryptic clue and then expect people not to analyse? Seriously?JamesSeed said:
Oh gawd, analysis. That's all we need ;-)harveys_gardener said:What can be the two week significance be? EFL approval? How can it be time limited? £7m loans? If it is an issue now, it will be no less so in a fortnight. No 'difficult two weeks' is the window closing with Bauer Mag and others looking for their coats. Luckily Fosu is stuck here until January. So I believe the takeover is further on the horizon than this and am struggling to find reasons for delays apart from a previously mentioned potential tax issue of RD's 5th anniversary Dec/Jan or a key investor trying to shed his other interest.
I'm guessing you must know more than you let on, otherwise your conversations with GM would be positively weird, judging by the minuscule titbits of titillation you offer. Your loyalty to the Aussie regime is beyond reproach, and loyalty is to me is one of my favourite qualities in a human being. However, loyalty is normally borne out of something tangible such as allegiance, devotion and duty and not imo an occasional coded message that not even you purport to understand.
Com'on James time to spill the beans ... What's going on?4 -
Yup. You've been there too long.Stu_of_Kunming said:
You think They release what they do for laughs rather than impact?JamesSeed said:.
Lol. It's almost as if you live in a dystopian universe.Stu_of_Kunming said:Imo, everything is released for a reason and everything is spin.
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Murray is owed £2.6m, not £4m.4
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So it is Roland, the ex Directors and the loans.JamesSeed said:
Not so.Redrobo said:The way that the comment has been phrased to James suggests to me it is they the Australians that have the difficulties, not Roland. Not the ex directors. Not loans.
So what is it that the Australians will find difficult to do in two weeks?
We have been told that the consortium needs to be less complicated. Who decided this and why?
There also seems to be the suggestion that two of the consortium did not pass fit and proper. Is this what will mean a difficult two weeks to resolve?
Maybe the two go together. By re-organising the consortium they can then meet the requirements of fit and proper and yet keep the consortium together.0 -
Now is not the time, to bring Rolf Harris in to itFumbluff said:
Tie a kangaroo down?Redrobo said:The way that the comment has been phrased to James suggests to me it is they the Australians that have the difficulties, not Roland. Not the ex directors. Not loans.
So what is it that the Australians will find difficult to do in two weeks?0 -
He just said 'there may be a couple of difficult weeks ahead'. Nothing about loans or Roland. It could be either or neither I guess.Redrobo said:
So it is Roland, the ex Directors and the loans.JamesSeed said:
Not so.Redrobo said:The way that the comment has been phrased to James suggests to me it is they the Australians that have the difficulties, not Roland. Not the ex directors. Not loans.
So what is it that the Australians will find difficult to do in two weeks?
We have been told that the consortium needs to be less complicated. Who decided this and why?
There also seems to be the suggestion that two of the consortium did not pass fit and proper. Is this what will mean a difficult two weeks to resolve?
Maybe the two go together. By re-organising the consortium they can then meet the requirements of fit and proper and yet keep the consortium together.0 -
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thanks for correction,read the other day it was £4mAirman Brown said:Murray is owed £2.6m, not £4m.
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I am closer to saying stuff the whole lot than I have ever been in 59 years of supporting this team. So many false dawns, cryptic comments, broken promises over these last 18 months than in the previous 57 and a half years.
I desperately want Duchatelet to go, but have no confidence whatsoever that the Australians are the right people to succeed the Belgian.
If there is a second bidder, the supposition is that Murray is involved, the same Murray who lumbered us with Dowie purely to piss off Simon Jordan.
This is my last post on Charlton Life. I have not renewed my season ticket. Charlton have lost another loyal supporter. I doubt I will ever return.1 -
@JamesSeed why do you have so much faith in the Aussies?1
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I would guess it is because he knows one of them That has said repeatedly, at least once to his face, that they are all we hope for. In his situation I think we would all want to believe if not 100% believe.PopIcon said:@JamesSeed why do you have so much faith in the Aussies?
Oh and they aren't Roly.6 -
Are they at the Valley tonight?.0
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With due respect I don't think the Aussies have shown us anything yet until its happens this 'ambition' is all talk! Not show!JamesSeed said:.
No benefit of coursekillerandflash said:
But the longer the takeover is delayed, the worse state the club will be in. There's a massive difference between buying a club in June, and planning for promotion and buying one in September with a season of struggle ahead, especially if they have a 5 year plan. If the 5 year plan turns into a 6 year plan as a result, how does that benefit the Aussies financially?Hex said:
Yes, but that is irrelevant as in 2 weeks, when the transfer window closes, Roland has to fund the monthly loses while the Aussies can sit back and watch the money drain out of Staprix. They are in control now.killerandflash said:
Or from Roland's point of viewHex said:
Or is this a hidden message - "Roland, are you listening ? We know we are your only option. It's too late for us to put together a promotion team for this season so we are not in any hurry to complete a deal. We can wait while your debts pile up ..... unless you agree to our price NOW".JamesSeed said:
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.Moo said:I’m serious, we can hold on for 2 weeks.
"You could have bought the club in June and had a summer to build a promotion side and start your era off on a wave of optimism. Instead, because of the delays you'll go into this season with a mediocre squad (especially when Bauer and Magennis get sold in August), and start your era with a year struggling in L1, racking up losses, and then over spending in the January window to try and save the season"
What numbers is your mum using ;-)Stu_of_Kunming said:
It's not like they're going to tell the world they don't have a clue what they're doing, is it!Moo said:
Well from what James has said they have a five year plan to get us to the premier league. Think we have to hold onto the hope that it will happen.Scoham said:
If it happens the wait will have killed of some of the excitement. Due to the time it's taken there will be a lot more fans having doubts about the Aussies, whether that's fair or not. Looking across social media over the last few weeks I've seen more comments blaming them for the delay or doubting they'll be good for the club.Moo said:
What If the takeover does finally happen? Say end of August. I’m sure it will create a good buzz around the place. We still have the January window to make a big push for promotion. I also believe we have a much better manager this season who can get the best out of our players.Redvalleyeast said:
Then mid table league 1 is the best we can hope for. No strength in depth,injured players already. Its so frustrating, this club has so much potential and for one reason or another,every season is the same. Christ knows what we've done as fans of Charlton to warrant such shit times but im just sick of it. Sad.JamesSeed said:
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.Moo said:I’m serious, we can hold on for 2 weeks.
More chance of my mum winning the lottery than us being in The Prem in 5 years.
Of course you can argue that the chances are we won't get to the Prem in 5 years. But at least they're showing the ambition that the club has lacked for years.7 -
Well that last deadline said "after"the Norwich game and it would still be correct if it was months /years after ------------"2rough weeks" just when things were going so fucking well !!!!
Utter utter bollox even for Charlton.
17\1 for relegation ? Lump it on.
Over the decades seen,herd some shit following this club but this whole sale/buying thing is total piss take ----fucking shambles -------destroying our support base day by day
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It's the story about Usmanov looking to sell his 30% stake in Arsenal. We aren't mentioned but I know that somewhere in the mists of time, someone mentioned Usmanov &/or Moshiri (his stooge at Everton) in connection with us. Can't see that somehow.JWADDICK said:
Possibly, but I don't want to subscribe. What did it say?flyingkiwiDK said:This could be relevant...
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Stu_of_Kunming said:
They have shown nothing though, the spivs said the right things when they came in, as did RD, so let's wait and see, shall we.
Might have said the right things mate ...and then wot happened,I'd rather hear nothing (just knowing the aussies are still there is enough)...let them talk when it's clear as day what money they may have,the personnel they place in the needed positions from top to bottom & wot this 5yr plan is when the takeover eventually happens...(and yes,like everyone else is hoping,please god it does & soon) then only judge them after them terms,no one could possibly know how it will go,but fuck it...let's enjoy the next chapter TOGETHER...!!!
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Airman Brown said:
Murray is owed £2.6m, not £4m.
We can have a whip round then to remove him and help the AussiesAirman Brown said:Murray is owed £2.6m, not £4m.
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