Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Or is this a hidden message - "Roland, are you listening ? We know we are your only option. It's too late for us to put together a promotion team for this season so we are not in any hurry to complete a deal. We can wait while your debts pile up ..... unless you agree to our price NOW".
Or from Roland's point of view
"You could have bought the club in June and had a summer to build a promotion side and start your era off on a wave of optimism. Instead, because of the delays you'll go into this season with a mediocre squad (especially when Bauer and Magennis get sold in August), and start your era with a year struggling in L1, racking up losses, and then over spending in the January window to try and save the season"
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Then mid table league 1 is the best we can hope for. No strength in depth,injured players already. Its so frustrating, this club has so much potential and for one reason or another,every season is the same. Christ knows what we've done as fans of Charlton to warrant such shit times but im just sick of it. Sad.
What If the takeover does finally happen? Say end of August. I’m sure it will create a good buzz around the place. We still have the January window to make a big push for promotion. I also believe we have a much better manager this season who can get the best out of our players.
If it happens the wait will have killed of some of the excitement. Due to the time it's taken there will be a lot more fans having doubts about the Aussies, whether that's fair or not. Looking across social media over the last few weeks I've seen more comments blaming them for the delay or doubting they'll be good for the club.
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Then mid table league 1 is the best we can hope for. No strength in depth,injured players already. Its so frustrating, this club has so much potential and for one reason or another,every season is the same. Christ knows what we've done as fans of Charlton to warrant such shit times but im just sick of it. Sad.
What If the takeover does finally happen? Say end of August. I’m sure it will create a good buzz around the place. We still have the January window to make a big push for promotion. I also believe we have a much better manager this season who can get the best out of our players.
I admire your optimism,I really do. Whether a buzz is created or not, if we haven't got the players and the strength in depth and the transfer window is shut then for all the good will in the world mid table beckons. I want to be so wrong and I hope I am.
I'm still clinging on to the fact that Yann and Bent are still free agents.
Would be cracking opening signings for the Aussies when they announce the takeover
Also, i forgot to mention players that are Free Agents before the Closure of Transfer Window can be signed after So this would also be possible after the window shuts The dream is still alive!
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Then mid table league 1 is the best we can hope for. No strength in depth,injured players already. Its so frustrating, this club has so much potential and for one reason or another,every season is the same. Christ knows what we've done as fans of Charlton to warrant such shit times but im just sick of it. Sad.
What If the takeover does finally happen? Say end of August. I’m sure it will create a good buzz around the place. We still have the January window to make a big push for promotion. I also believe we have a much better manager this season who can get the best out of our players.
If it happens the wait will have killed of some of the excitement. Due to the time it's taken there will be a lot more fans having doubts about the Aussies, whether that's fair or not. Looking across social media over the last few weeks I've seen more comments blaming them for the delay or doubting they'll be good for the club.
Well from what James has said they have a five year plan to get us to the premier league. Think we have to hold onto the hope that it will happen.
What can be the two week significance be? EFL approval? How can it be time limited? £7m loans? If it is an issue now, it will be no less so in a fortnight. No 'difficult two weeks' is the window closing with Bauer Mag and others looking for their coats. Luckily Fosu is stuck here until January. So I believe the takeover is further on the horizon than this and am struggling to find reasons for delays apart from a previously mentioned potential tax issue of RD's 5th anniversary Dec/Jan or a key investor trying to shed his other interest.
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Then mid table league 1 is the best we can hope for. No strength in depth,injured players already. Its so frustrating, this club has so much potential and for one reason or another,every season is the same. Christ knows what we've done as fans of Charlton to warrant such shit times but im just sick of it. Sad.
What If the takeover does finally happen? Say end of August. I’m sure it will create a good buzz around the place. We still have the January window to make a big push for promotion. I also believe we have a much better manager this season who can get the best out of our players.
I admire your optimism,I really do. Whether a buzz is created or not, if we haven't got the players and the strength in depth and the transfer window is shut then for all the good will in the world mid table beckons. I want to be so wrong and I hope I am.
Sadly, that's the reality. If things go well and we are lucky with injuries, we could be around the playoffs. If things go badly, we'll be near the bottom 3...
What can be the two week significance be? EFL approval? How can it be time limited? £7m loans? If it is an issue now, it will be no less so in a fortnight. No 'difficult two weeks' is the window closing with Bauer Mag and others looking for their coats. Luckily Fosu is stuck here until January. So I believe the takeover is further on the horizon than this and am struggling to find reasons for delays apart from a previously mentioned potential tax issue of RD's 5th anniversary Dec/Jan or a key investor trying to shed his other interest.
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Or is this a hidden message - "Roland, are you listening ? We know we are your only option. It's too late for us to put together a promotion team for this season so we are not in any hurry to complete a deal. We can wait while your debts pile up ..... unless you agree to our price NOW".
Or from Roland's point of view
"You could have bought the club in June and had a summer to build a promotion side and start your era off on a wave of optimism. Instead, because of the delays you'll go into this season with a mediocre squad (especially when Bauer and Magennis get sold in August), and start your era with a year struggling in L1, racking up losses, and then over spending in the January window to try and save the season"
Yes, but that is irrelevant as in 2 weeks, when the transfer window closes, Roland has to fund the monthly loses while the Aussies can sit back and watch the money drain out of Staprix. They are in control now.
All the speculation is just so much self-defeating hot air. This could be brought to the very cusp of completion, with only i's to be dotted, t's to be crossed and the EFL illiterates to be slowly talked through the redtape in monosyllables. CAFC is (barely) worth what the next punter is prepared to pay. It most definitely isn't worth any made up or aspirational figure the current incuntant chooses. Roly could accept the bid in whatever form the Aussies present it, with whatever reductions, undertakings, indemnities, conditions and caveats they demand; and bring the whole thing to a conclusion. But he is a repugnant lunatic. So we wait for whatever preposterous alignment of irrelevant bullshit rd dreams up while he moves the goalposts again and again, with our fingers crossed that the rotting husk of the thing we remember as CAFC, hasn't actually deceased in the meantime.
I'm aware that this - the most popular thread on any forum, anywhere (or something like that) - attracts a lot of people who are very familiar with the takeover. People have spent more than a year forensically examining every jot and tittle of leaks, rumours, guesses, dissembling, fabrication, diversion and supposition. The motivation, wealth and travel plans of super-rich individuals from good guys in Australia to a Melexis madman in Belgium have been pored over in microscopic detail. Everyone who has made their way from page 1 to page 1116+ has become something of an expert - both in international finance and relaxation techniques required to deal with the one constant: waiting.
But I am also aware that some people visit rarely, some people aren't even Charlton fans and some people simply don't get what the fuss is about.
So here's the thing. In the 1940s we won the FA Cup. We're the only team playing in South London that has done. But we are not going to win it again this season. In the 1980s we signed the best player in Europe. But we are not going to sign the best players in South London this season. In the 1990s, we played in Europe. But we're not going to play competitive matches outside England this season. In the 2000s we competed at the higher end of the Premier League. In 2004 we finished as the third-highest placed London team. This season, we're fighting with AFC Wimbledon for the title of tenth-highest.
This season, we won't win anything.
But we are going to celebrate as if we have won promotion, the women's team have won the league, Charlton Invicta have won their league and the Upbeats have rightfully been named in the BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards as Team of the Year. Why? Because the life will be put back into the club the day - the moment - the takeover is complete.
Fans of other teams won't get it. Success is measured on the pitch, they'll claim. You can't celebrate a change of ownership, when there are points still to win. Wrong!
The takeover, when it happens, will be the most important thing that has happened to this club this century. And the galvanising effect it will have on the club, its prospects and its fans will be transformational. Improved crowds, better support, optimistic attitude, better press, more attention, better signings, more points, higher finish, healthier, happier future.
The most important, most worthwhile single piece of news that can emanate from SE7. So, to all fans of other clubs, here's the thing: we're going to go fucking mental when it happens. It's bigger than you winning the Premier League. It's more important than you pocketing shed loads of euros from a Champions League. This is our club, our title, our cup, our win, our celebration. And we're going to make the most of it.
Nick Hornby's 1992 book, "Fever Pitch", culminates, as we all know, with the Woolwich rejects winning the League in 1989. In it he writes about his reaction including the memory of the banter bullying and bitchiness of his friends from school and work over the years. And how he would like to see their reaction at that time. Well this takeover will be bigger and better than that.
It's so important, it's so welcome and it's going to be so transformational that I would like to say simply, "I can't wait". But, as the last year or so has proved, I can. And I will.
We are all a bit jaded and the long wait has taken its toll. But when RD goes, and he will - eventually. There shall be much rejoicing. It will be invigorating to have my club back - and hopefully owners who actually want to improve our status and get the club moving forwards again - it will be very exciting.
If £4m of the £7m is owed to Murray could it be that the Aussies are willing to roll over the£3m owed to others but not the £4m owed to Murray as they dont want him around?
I'm past the point of celebrating when he sells. It'll probably be more relief mixed with a determination to make sure something like it never happens to Charlton again.
This season was always going down the toilet if Duchatelet still owned us, takeover saga or not. If we were going to do anything meaningful this season then the takeover and season preparation needed to ideally be done before the World Cup. Remember how prepared Powell and co were with their shopping list?
It takes as long as it takes. The most important thing continues to be getting that maniac's hands off the club.
If £4m of the £7m is owed to Murray could it be that the Aussies are willing to roll over the£3m owed to others but not the £4m owed to Murray as they dont want him around?
My thoughts too. This would not be the 1st time RM is blocking any such deal
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Or is this a hidden message - "Roland, are you listening ? We know we are your only option. It's too late for us to put together a promotion team for this season so we are not in any hurry to complete a deal. We can wait while your debts pile up ..... unless you agree to our price NOW".
Or from Roland's point of view
"You could have bought the club in June and had a summer to build a promotion side and start your era off on a wave of optimism. Instead, because of the delays you'll go into this season with a mediocre squad (especially when Bauer and Magennis get sold in August), and start your era with a year struggling in L1, racking up losses, and then over spending in the January window to try and save the season"
Yes, but that is irrelevant as in 2 weeks, when the transfer window closes, Roland has to fund the monthly loses while the Aussies can sit back and watch the money drain out of Staprix. They are in control now.
But the longer the takeover is delayed, the worse state the club will be in. There's a massive difference between buying a club in June, and planning for promotion and buying one in September with a season of struggle ahead, especially if they have a 5 year plan. If the 5 year plan turns into a 6 year plan as a result, how does that benefit the Aussies financially?
Hoping it's two weeks, but it could well be more unfortunately.
Or is this a hidden message - "Roland, are you listening ? We know we are your only option. It's too late for us to put together a promotion team for this season so we are not in any hurry to complete a deal. We can wait while your debts pile up ..... unless you agree to our price NOW".
Or from Roland's point of view
"You could have bought the club in June and had a summer to build a promotion side and start your era off on a wave of optimism. Instead, because of the delays you'll go into this season with a mediocre squad (especially when Bauer and Magennis get sold in August), and start your era with a year struggling in L1, racking up losses, and then over spending in the January window to try and save the season"
Yes, but that is irrelevant as in 2 weeks, when the transfer window closes, Roland has to fund the monthly loses while the Aussies can sit back and watch the money drain out of Staprix. They are in control now.
But the longer the takeover is delayed, the worse state the club will be in. There's a massive difference between buying a club in June, and planning for promotion and buying one in September with a season of struggle ahead, especially if they have a 5 year plan. If the 5 year plan turns into a 6 year plan as a result, how does that benefit the Aussies financially?
That’s exactly why I don’t believe this is purely financial.
Will those trotting out the debenture crap please justify. What part of 'price has been agreed' as stated by both sides, don't you understand? How is a crucial next two weeks pertinent to an issue that has been bull-shitted about for two months? If you can't justify your speculation, just don't post.
I just had a quick look at my Twitter account and was depressed to see my tweets two years ago. I was tweeting a lot about the damages RD was doing to our club. It's so depressing to read because two years on nothing much has changed! The club is still owned by the Belgian and we don't even know when he'll be gone!
Will those trotting out the debenture crap please justify. What part of 'price has been agreed' as stated by both sides, don't you understand? How is a crucial next two weeks pertinent to an issue that has been bull-shitted about for two months?
Calm down.
It is quite possible that the purchase price ie what the Aussies pay Duchatelet, has been agreed but that another condition of the deal is that Duchatelet will have dealt with the directors loans and that that has yet to be resolved.
I don't know if that is the case but some people are indicating that it could be.
James Seed didn't say the next two weeks are "crucial", he said he was told that there could be "a difficult two weeks ahead’. There is no indication as to why it will be difficult, why two weeks or what the issue/s might be that will make it "difficult".
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"You could have bought the club in June and had a summer to build a promotion side and start your era off on a wave of optimism. Instead, because of the delays you'll go into this season with a mediocre squad (especially when Bauer and Magennis get sold in August), and start your era with a year struggling in L1, racking up losses, and then over spending in the January window to try and save the season"
Loans out: Roland; Uncle Dicky; Burger Tony.
Loans in: Bomber Muir; @JamesSeed's drinking buddy; Chairman Elliot; Reg (would be nice but not sure about his availability)
We can worry about the rest later.
players that are Free Agents before the Closure of Transfer Window can be signed after
So this would also be possible after the window shuts
The dream is still alive!
This could be brought to the very cusp of completion, with only i's to be dotted, t's to be crossed and the EFL illiterates to be slowly talked through the redtape in monosyllables.
CAFC is (barely) worth what the next punter is prepared to pay.
It most definitely isn't worth any made up or aspirational figure the current incuntant chooses.
Roly could accept the bid in whatever form the Aussies present it, with whatever reductions, undertakings, indemnities, conditions and caveats they demand; and bring the whole thing to a conclusion. But he is a repugnant lunatic. So we wait for whatever preposterous alignment of irrelevant bullshit rd dreams up while he moves the goalposts again and again, with our fingers crossed that the rotting husk of the thing we remember as CAFC, hasn't actually deceased in the meantime.
But I am also aware that some people visit rarely, some people aren't even Charlton fans and some people simply don't get what the fuss is about.
So here's the thing. In the 1940s we won the FA Cup. We're the only team playing in South London that has done. But we are not going to win it again this season. In the 1980s we signed the best player in Europe. But we are not going to sign the best players in South London this season. In the 1990s, we played in Europe. But we're not going to play competitive matches outside England this season. In the 2000s we competed at the higher end of the Premier League. In 2004 we finished as the third-highest placed London team. This season, we're fighting with AFC Wimbledon for the title of tenth-highest.
This season, we won't win anything.
But we are going to celebrate as if we have won promotion, the women's team have won the league, Charlton Invicta have won their league and the Upbeats have rightfully been named in the BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards as Team of the Year. Why? Because the life will be put back into the club the day - the moment - the takeover is complete.
Fans of other teams won't get it. Success is measured on the pitch, they'll claim. You can't celebrate a change of ownership, when there are points still to win. Wrong!
The takeover, when it happens, will be the most important thing that has happened to this club this century. And the galvanising effect it will have on the club, its prospects and its fans will be transformational. Improved crowds, better support, optimistic attitude, better press, more attention, better signings, more points, higher finish, healthier, happier future.
The most important, most worthwhile single piece of news that can emanate from SE7. So, to all fans of other clubs, here's the thing: we're going to go fucking mental when it happens. It's bigger than you winning the Premier League. It's more important than you pocketing shed loads of euros from a Champions League. This is our club, our title, our cup, our win, our celebration. And we're going to make the most of it.
Nick Hornby's 1992 book, "Fever Pitch", culminates, as we all know, with the Woolwich rejects winning the League in 1989. In it he writes about his reaction including the memory of the banter bullying and bitchiness of his friends from school and work over the years. And how he would like to see their reaction at that time. Well this takeover will be bigger and better than that.
It's so important, it's so welcome and it's going to be so transformational that I would like to say simply, "I can't wait". But, as the last year or so has proved, I can. And I will.
Hold tight - it's on its way.
We are all a bit jaded and the long wait has taken its toll. But when RD goes, and he will - eventually. There shall be much rejoicing. It will be invigorating to have my club back - and hopefully owners who actually want to improve our status and get the club moving forwards again - it will be very exciting.
This season was always going down the toilet if Duchatelet still owned us, takeover saga or not. If we were going to do anything meaningful this season then the takeover and season preparation needed to ideally be done before the World Cup. Remember how prepared Powell and co were with their shopping list?
It takes as long as it takes. The most important thing continues to be getting that maniac's hands off the club.
It is quite possible that the purchase price ie what the Aussies pay Duchatelet, has been agreed but that another condition of the deal is that Duchatelet will have dealt with the directors loans and that that has yet to be resolved.
I don't know if that is the case but some people are indicating that it could be.
James Seed didn't say the next two weeks are "crucial", he said he was told that there could be "a difficult two weeks ahead’. There is no indication as to why it will be difficult, why two weeks or what the issue/s might be that will make it "difficult".