The source of the Saudi bid was as viable as the stuff from GM coming to you @JamesSeed it came from within those doing the deal
I do agree with you though nothing confirmed yet it’s been rumours since Sunday night and still nothing confirmed
But this week has been deadline week too many people been told that from too many differing sources including AB so something gives either way this week
And I hold no hopes the funding issue has been resolved by the Aussies
But why would anyone leak the info about the Saudis' bid? That's what makes me suspicious. GM isn't leaking any info like that, and never has. It's the motivation that makes me slightly suspicious. Of course it could be true, I know you're not lying of course, and you're passing on what you've been told. But why do it?
'And I hold no hopes the funding issue has been resolved by the Aussies'? That's you're opinion, which is fair enough of course.
I think it will be resolved. Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason for me to believe it can't be in place again. Spoken as a true glass half full man of course ;-)
Not having a go at anyone here but Im not sure it’s fair to keep saying the Aussie bid may have failed, just hours after GM has said it hasn’t. What’s the source of that info? He’s said they’re still in it a few hours ago.
I’m also not sure we should be using the Saudi bid as a yardstick, because we don’t know it’s 100% correct, as again we don’t know the source of the info. The £40 may be totally wrong for all we know.
In fact I would treat any info with extreme caution unless we know the source. There’s lots of unverified stuff flying around from all over the shop, and it’s doing everyone’s heads in. My critics will say I’m being used, but GM isn’t putting out figures or any info at all, other than they haven’t pulled out. It’s the third or fourth time he’s told me that, and they do still appear to be in the game.
If they’ve walked they’ve walked, and pretending they haven’t would be silly.
Any info that other bidders are waiting in the wings holding huge bundles of cash I’d treat with caution. RD is desperate to sell on his own terms, so it’s probable that everything he does is designed to get the Aussies to meet those terms, and it would be in his interests to put as much pressure on them as he can. He can afford to take a hit, but he won’t want to, in order not to lose face. I genuinely think he sees Charlton fans as the enemy to be defeated.
If there is a Brit consortium waiting in the wings (fronted by Murray possibly) hoping to get a bargain if the Aussies deal collapses, then again it would be in their best interests to undermine the Aussies’ bid. So both the leader of the Brit consortium and Duchâtelet have motives for making the Aussies look bad i.e. no money, Aussie nursery, buying the club, leaving Roland with the property titles, Rolf Harris etc etc. So any rumours involving those things I’d say treat with extreme caution. Except for Harris.
By all accounts players are being recruited in the background, possibly financed by the sale of Konsa, the boys are off to Portugal possibly financed by a sold player, so perhaps it isn’t all doom and gloom.
The message from GM yesterday was ‘Don’t believevthe rumours.’ I’m sticking with that. If they pull out we’ll know soon enough.
Of course the delays could be engineered to get the Pediction Thread up to 25 glorious pages ;-)
Just an off-topic question... Is a foreign trip nowadays a necessary part of preseason preparation? Regardless of the club's financial condition?
I don't know for sure. Seems to be common practice, perhaps a sign that you're not a cheapskate club? You'd need to ask the players; would they rather join a club that did pre season in Portugal, or Sparrows Lane?
No real squad. No footballing management. No senior management. Training ground is a building site.
Who in their right mind would buy us in our current situation.
I can't help but feel The aussies are gonna pull out and we're gonna be proper fucked.
Or they'll seperate club and ground and we'll be on the road to AFC Charlton, what Roland has done to us is unforgivable.
We really need one of the previous groups to come back in, although I fear time has run out for next season and one why or another, RD will have some form of control over us next season.
Well they weren’t going to pull out yesterday or twelve months ago, so with a bit of luck they’ll get there any day now.
And they won’t separate the club and the ground. That’s propaganda.
No it’s not propaganda as AB confirmed Monday
Who is pushing for it is open for debate
Yes in business sometimes you win sometimes you lose for RD to lose we need to be at zero value and in admin
We ain’t so he should get his money back
Don’t mistake should for deserve I never said he deserves his money back
I said I would be glad and Happy if he didn’t but that’s not reality
We were saved from admin by the directors and I don’t doubt that ultimately RD coming in done the same again
Don’t confuse the passion we have for the club and rightly so for what the man who has driven us downwards should have
He is all about the money he won’t put us in admin he wont relegate us further due to losing the money.
He is not good for us he only served a purpose not to put us into admin
But let’s be real the club has a value and whilst it does he should get that money back not a popular view but reality
I don't think he did, perhaps the opposite is the case?
Anyone else with me on having read every single post on this thread?
Disclaimer - Posts by Grapvine The Great I read the first paragraph and last paragraph and give it a like.
I am proud to say that I have also read every single post on this thread, including Grapevine the Great’s, word for word. I have often been somewhat behind, I am currently on page 1002. My record is reading over thirty, yes folks, over thirty pages in one hit to catch up. I should add that the background to this is that due to personal hygiene issues brought on by the fact that I simply do not have any spare time to shower or brush my teeth, all my friends have disappeared and my family have left me. But I still have all my pals on charltonlife, or do I?
No real squad. No footballing management. No senior management. Training ground is a building site.
Who in their right mind would buy us in our current situation.
I can't help but feel The aussies are gonna pull out and we're gonna be proper fucked.
Or they'll seperate club and ground and we'll be on the road to AFC Charlton, what Roland has done to us is unforgivable.
We really need one of the previous groups to come back in, although I fear time has run out for next season and one why or another, RD will have some form of control over us next season.
Well they weren’t going to pull out yesterday or twelve months ago, so with a bit of luck they’ll get there any day now.
And they won’t separate the club and the ground. That’s propaganda.
No it’s not propaganda as AB confirmed Monday
Who is pushing for it is open for debate
Yes in business sometimes you win sometimes you lose for RD to lose we need to be at zero value and in admin
We ain’t so he should get his money back
Don’t mistake should for deserve I never said he deserves his money back
I said I would be glad and Happy if he didn’t but that’s not reality
We were saved from admin by the directors and I don’t doubt that ultimately RD coming in done the same again
Don’t confuse the passion we have for the club and rightly so for what the man who has driven us downwards should have
He is all about the money he won’t put us in admin he wont relegate us further due to losing the money.
He is not good for us he only served a purpose not to put us into admin
But let’s be real the club has a value and whilst it does he should get that money back not a popular view but reality
I don't think he did, perhaps the opposite is the case?
No he heard it was RD that was calling for it not the Aussies
And like i said to him on Monday that’s something to be debated but it’s totally different from it not being discussed
Anyone else with me on having read every single post on this thread?
Disclaimer - Posts by Grapvine The Great I read the first paragraph and last paragraph and give it a like.
I am proud to say that I have also read every single post on this thread, including Grapevine the Great’s, word for word. I have often been somewhat behind, I am currently on page 1002. My record is reading over thirty, yes folks, over thirty pages in one hit to catch up. I should add that the background to this is that due to personal hygiene issues brought on by the fact that I simply do not have any spare time to shower or brush my teeth, all my friends have disappeared and my family have left me. But I still have all my pals on charltonlife, or do I?
Of course no problem from my end, mind you I've got a steam driven piece of kit linking me to the internet which doesn't do voice recognition or detect smells from posts .
No real squad. No footballing management. No senior management. Training ground is a building site.
Who in their right mind would buy us in our current situation.
I can't help but feel The aussies are gonna pull out and we're gonna be proper fucked.
Or they'll seperate club and ground and we'll be on the road to AFC Charlton, what Roland has done to us is unforgivable.
We really need one of the previous groups to come back in, although I fear time has run out for next season and one why or another, RD will have some form of control over us next season.
Well they weren’t going to pull out yesterday or twelve months ago, so with a bit of luck they’ll get there any day now.
And they won’t separate the club and the ground. That’s propaganda.
No it’s not propaganda as AB confirmed Monday
Who is pushing for it is open for debate
Yes in business sometimes you win sometimes you lose for RD to lose we need to be at zero value and in admin
We ain’t so he should get his money back
Don’t mistake should for deserve I never said he deserves his money back
I said I would be glad and Happy if he didn’t but that’s not reality
We were saved from admin by the directors and I don’t doubt that ultimately RD coming in done the same again
Don’t confuse the passion we have for the club and rightly so for what the man who has driven us downwards should have
He is all about the money he won’t put us in admin he wont relegate us further due to losing the money.
He is not good for us he only served a purpose not to put us into admin
But let’s be real the club has a value and whilst it does he should get that money back not a popular view but reality
I don't think he did, perhaps the opposite is the case?
No he heard it was RD that was calling for it not the Aussies
And like i said to him on Monday that’s something to be debated but it’s totally different from it not being discussed
The Aussies would say that, wouldn't they? Anyway, if they agree to it it's their decision, they don't have to do it.
No real squad. No footballing management. No senior management. Training ground is a building site.
Who in their right mind would buy us in our current situation.
I can't help but feel The aussies are gonna pull out and we're gonna be proper fucked.
Or they'll seperate club and ground and we'll be on the road to AFC Charlton, what Roland has done to us is unforgivable.
We really need one of the previous groups to come back in, although I fear time has run out for next season and one why or another, RD will have some form of control over us next season.
Well they weren’t going to pull out yesterday or twelve months ago, so with a bit of luck they’ll get there any day now.
And they won’t separate the club and the ground. That’s propaganda.
No it’s not propaganda as AB confirmed Monday
Who is pushing for it is open for debate
Yes in business sometimes you win sometimes you lose for RD to lose we need to be at zero value and in admin
We ain’t so he should get his money back
Don’t mistake should for deserve I never said he deserves his money back
I said I would be glad and Happy if he didn’t but that’s not reality
We were saved from admin by the directors and I don’t doubt that ultimately RD coming in done the same again
Don’t confuse the passion we have for the club and rightly so for what the man who has driven us downwards should have
He is all about the money he won’t put us in admin he wont relegate us further due to losing the money.
He is not good for us he only served a purpose not to put us into admin
But let’s be real the club has a value and whilst it does he should get that money back not a popular view but reality
I don't think he did, perhaps the opposite is the case?
No he heard it was RD that was calling for it not the Aussies
And like i said to him on Monday that’s something to be debated but it’s totally different from it not being discussed
The Aussies would say that, wouldn't they? Anyway, if they agree to it it's their decision, they don't have to do it.
It’s not just the Aussies though. It’s coming from someone firmly in RD’s camp.
@JamesSeed to your knowledge is Muir actually part of this consortium? If so, and they are that confident of getting the investors on board, why is he not bridging the gap?
No real squad. No footballing management. No senior management. Training ground is a building site.
Who in their right mind would buy us in our current situation.
I can't help but feel The aussies are gonna pull out and we're gonna be proper fucked.
Or they'll seperate club and ground and we'll be on the road to AFC Charlton, what Roland has done to us is unforgivable.
We really need one of the previous groups to come back in, although I fear time has run out for next season and one why or another, RD will have some form of control over us next season.
Well they weren’t going to pull out yesterday or twelve months ago, so with a bit of luck they’ll get there any day now.
And they won’t separate the club and the ground. That’s propaganda.
But will they seperate the club and the training ground???
Not having a go at anyone here but Im not sure it’s fair to keep saying the Aussie bid may have failed, just hours after GM has said it hasn’t. What’s the source of that info? He’s said they’re still in it a few hours ago.
I’m also not sure we should be using the Saudi bid as a yardstick, because we don’t know it’s 100% correct, as again we don’t know the source of the info. The £40 may be totally wrong for all we know.
In fact I would treat any info with extreme caution unless we know the source. There’s lots of unverified stuff flying around from all over the shop, and it’s doing everyone’s heads in. My critics will say I’m being used, but GM isn’t putting out figures or any info at all, other than they haven’t pulled out. It’s the third or fourth time he’s told me that, and they do still appear to be in the game.
If they’ve walked they’ve walked, and pretending they haven’t would be silly.
Any info that other bidders are waiting in the wings holding huge bundles of cash I’d treat with caution. RD is desperate to sell on his own terms, so it’s probable that everything he does is designed to get the Aussies to meet those terms, and it would be in his interests to put as much pressure on them as he can. He can afford to take a hit, but he won’t want to, in order not to lose face. I genuinely think he sees Charlton fans as the enemy to be defeated.
If there is a Brit consortium waiting in the wings (fronted by Murray possibly) hoping to get a bargain if the Aussies deal collapses, then again it would be in their best interests to undermine the Aussies’ bid. So both the leader of the Brit consortium and Duchâtelet have motives for making the Aussies look bad i.e. no money, Aussie nursery, buying the club, leaving Roland with the property titles, Rolf Harris etc etc. So any rumours involving those things I’d say treat with extreme caution. Except for Harris.
By all accounts players are being recruited in the background, possibly financed by the sale of Konsa, the boys are off to Portugal possibly financed by a sold player, so perhaps it isn’t all doom and gloom.
The message from GM yesterday was ‘Don’t believevthe rumours.’ I’m sticking with that. If they pull out we’ll know soon enough.
Of course the delays could be engineered to get the Pediction Thread up to 25 glorious pages ;-)
Just an off-topic question... Is a foreign trip nowadays a necessary part of preseason preparation? Regardless of the club's financial condition?
No, it's a waste of money.
I think you'd have to ask a couple of the players. Do thy want to play a
''Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason to believe it can't be in place again."
There might be loads of 'reasons'...Two knocked back 'major backers' could be one reason alone.
But as I said, there's no reason to believe funding can't (and actually might already) be in place again. Yes, if they were major backers it could well been why it's taking a few weeks to replace them. Speculation only, I've heard nothing about it. All I'm doing is saying temporary lack of funds doesn't mean they can't find funds, if indeed that is the issue.
@nth london addick You should not propogate the myth that RD saved us from admin. As I have often mentioned, another credible bidder was in the frame that December, the "Arenacom" bid. I know this because I met them twice In Prague, one of them a lifelong Charlron fan based in an invesťment bank in Vienna, the other I met was the German guy from Arenacom. I have my doubts about the bid because it was Pen related, but thwy were there, and so others would have been. So give that bit a rest, eh?
Otherwise ad I promised you I will stick to PMs as we are all too wound up but rhis RD appeaaememt is a bit much and needs to be corrected.
I suppose the point of a pre season trip is that everybody is together 24/7. I think it's supposed to be something called bonding. If a player joins after the trip, they don't get bonded but attached with duck tape.
@JamesSeed to your knowledge is Muir actually part of this consortium? If so, and they are that confident of getting the investors on board, why is he not bridging the gap?
He's definitely part of the consortium. The gap bridging issue is way above my pay grade. Business acumen, maybe tells him not to go in too deep? Guessing of course. Or perhaps he's promised funding post sale of the club. I have no idea really.
They don't speak to me. I occasionally hassle them for a yes or no answer basically.
No real squad. No footballing management. No senior management. Training ground is a building site.
Who in their right mind would buy us in our current situation.
I can't help but feel The aussies are gonna pull out and we're gonna be proper fucked.
Or they'll seperate club and ground and we'll be on the road to AFC Charlton, what Roland has done to us is unforgivable.
We really need one of the previous groups to come back in, although I fear time has run out for next season and one why or another, RD will have some form of control over us next season.
Well they weren’t going to pull out yesterday or twelve months ago, so with a bit of luck they’ll get there any day now.
And they won’t separate the club and the ground. That’s propaganda.
But will they seperate the club and the training ground???
Sorry I should have written the Valley and the training ground.
Not having a go at anyone here but Im not sure it’s fair to keep saying the Aussie bid may have failed, just hours after GM has said it hasn’t. What’s the source of that info? He’s said they’re still in it a few hours ago.
I’m also not sure we should be using the Saudi bid as a yardstick, because we don’t know it’s 100% correct, as again we don’t know the source of the info. The £40 may be totally wrong for all we know.
In fact I would treat any info with extreme caution unless we know the source. There’s lots of unverified stuff flying around from all over the shop, and it’s doing everyone’s heads in. My critics will say I’m being used, but GM isn’t putting out figures or any info at all, other than they haven’t pulled out. It’s the third or fourth time he’s told me that, and they do still appear to be in the game.
If they’ve walked they’ve walked, and pretending they haven’t would be silly.
Any info that other bidders are waiting in the wings holding huge bundles of cash I’d treat with caution. RD is desperate to sell on his own terms, so it’s probable that everything he does is designed to get the Aussies to meet those terms, and it would be in his interests to put as much pressure on them as he can. He can afford to take a hit, but he won’t want to, in order not to lose face. I genuinely think he sees Charlton fans as the enemy to be defeated.
If there is a Brit consortium waiting in the wings (fronted by Murray possibly) hoping to get a bargain if the Aussies deal collapses, then again it would be in their best interests to undermine the Aussies’ bid. So both the leader of the Brit consortium and Duchâtelet have motives for making the Aussies look bad i.e. no money, Aussie nursery, buying the club, leaving Roland with the property titles, Rolf Harris etc etc. So any rumours involving those things I’d say treat with extreme caution. Except for Harris.
By all accounts players are being recruited in the background, possibly financed by the sale of Konsa, the boys are off to Portugal possibly financed by a sold player, so perhaps it isn’t all doom and gloom.
The message from GM yesterday was ‘Don’t believevthe rumours.’ I’m sticking with that. If they pull out we’ll know soon enough.
Of course the delays could be engineered to get the Pediction Thread up to 25 glorious pages ;-)
Just an off-topic question... Is a foreign trip nowadays a necessary part of preseason preparation? Regardless of the club's financial condition?
No, it's a waste of money.
I think you'd have to ask a couple of the players. Do thy want to play a
''Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason to believe it can't be in place again."
There might be loads of 'reasons'...Two knocked back 'major backers' could be one reason alone.
But as I said, there's no reason to believe funding can't (and actually might already) be in place again. Yes, if they were major backers it could well been why it's taking a few weeks to replace them. Speculation only, I've heard nothing about it. All I'm doing is saying temporary lack of funds doesn't mean they can't find funds, if indeed that is the issue.
The fact that it's dragged on for months suggest otherwise.
EGO EGO EGO -----peeps it's about RDs ego .Logic isn't in the picture .His ego tells him he is NEVER wrong and he will prove this by getting his dosh back ----- no matter who walks away ,someone out there will have RDs vision------deluded of course but unfortunately for CAFC he has the money to feed his ego. How long his delusion lasts is the killer for us
EGO EGO EGO -----peeps it's about EDs ego .Logic isn't in the picture .His ego tells him he is NEVER wrong and he will prove he will get his dosh back ----- no matter who walks away ,someone out there will have RDs vision------deluded of course but unfortunately for CAFC he has the money to feed his ego. How long his delusion lasts is the killer for us
Every month the money he thinks he’s owed by CAFC goes up by about £1 million. You mean to tell me he thinks that in ten months from now he expects to sell for £50 million ?
If that’s a reality then Charlton are earning him money. I bet the queue to take such a good money making prospect off his hands goes right around the block.
@JamesSeed to your knowledge is Muir actually part of this consortium? If so, and they are that confident of getting the investors on board, why is he not bridging the gap?
He's definitely part of the consortium. The gap bridging issue is way above my pay grade. Business acumen, maybe tells him not to go in too deep? Guessing of course. Or perhaps he's promised funding post sale of the club. I have no idea really.
They don't speak to me. I occasionally hassle them for a yes or no answer basically.
From the fact that he was the one to show up with the scarf and that the only other individual we know of (GM) isn't thought to be putting any money in but more acting in an executive role. It appears to me that even before the dropout of others Muir was the main investor and likely to be majority shareholder. If that's the case he may not be keep to further expose himself and would I expect be looking to spread the risk.
Not having a go at anyone here but Im not sure it’s fair to keep saying the Aussie bid may have failed, just hours after GM has said it hasn’t. What’s the source of that info? He’s said they’re still in it a few hours ago.
I’m also not sure we should be using the Saudi bid as a yardstick, because we don’t know it’s 100% correct, as again we don’t know the source of the info. The £40 may be totally wrong for all we know.
In fact I would treat any info with extreme caution unless we know the source. There’s lots of unverified stuff flying around from all over the shop, and it’s doing everyone’s heads in. My critics will say I’m being used, but GM isn’t putting out figures or any info at all, other than they haven’t pulled out. It’s the third or fourth time he’s told me that, and they do still appear to be in the game.
If they’ve walked they’ve walked, and pretending they haven’t would be silly.
Any info that other bidders are waiting in the wings holding huge bundles of cash I’d treat with caution. RD is desperate to sell on his own terms, so it’s probable that everything he does is designed to get the Aussies to meet those terms, and it would be in his interests to put as much pressure on them as he can. He can afford to take a hit, but he won’t want to, in order not to lose face. I genuinely think he sees Charlton fans as the enemy to be defeated.
If there is a Brit consortium waiting in the wings (fronted by Murray possibly) hoping to get a bargain if the Aussies deal collapses, then again it would be in their best interests to undermine the Aussies’ bid. So both the leader of the Brit consortium and Duchâtelet have motives for making the Aussies look bad i.e. no money, Aussie nursery, buying the club, leaving Roland with the property titles, Rolf Harris etc etc. So any rumours involving those things I’d say treat with extreme caution. Except for Harris.
By all accounts players are being recruited in the background, possibly financed by the sale of Konsa, the boys are off to Portugal possibly financed by a sold player, so perhaps it isn’t all doom and gloom.
The message from GM yesterday was ‘Don’t believevthe rumours.’ I’m sticking with that. If they pull out we’ll know soon enough.
Of course the delays could be engineered to get the Pediction Thread up to 25 glorious pages ;-)
Just an off-topic question... Is a foreign trip nowadays a necessary part of preseason preparation? Regardless of the club's financial condition?
No, it's a waste of money.
I think you'd have to ask a couple of the players. Do thy want to play a
''Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason to believe it can't be in place again."
There might be loads of 'reasons'...Two knocked back 'major backers' could be one reason alone.
But as I said, there's no reason to believe funding can't (and actually might already) be in place again. Yes, if they were major backers it could well been why it's taking a few weeks to replace them. Speculation only, I've heard nothing about it. All I'm doing is saying temporary lack of funds doesn't mean they can't find funds, if indeed that is the issue.
The fact that it's dragged on for months suggest otherwise.
Over simplistic. If there was a genuine issue about funding they would have been shown the door ages ago. Duchatelet isn't a complete fool, and there are lawyers and accountants involved at each stage.
Not having a go at anyone here but Im not sure it’s fair to keep saying the Aussie bid may have failed, just hours after GM has said it hasn’t. What’s the source of that info? He’s said they’re still in it a few hours ago.
I’m also not sure we should be using the Saudi bid as a yardstick, because we don’t know it’s 100% correct, as again we don’t know the source of the info. The £40 may be totally wrong for all we know.
In fact I would treat any info with extreme caution unless we know the source. There’s lots of unverified stuff flying around from all over the shop, and it’s doing everyone’s heads in. My critics will say I’m being used, but GM isn’t putting out figures or any info at all, other than they haven’t pulled out. It’s the third or fourth time he’s told me that, and they do still appear to be in the game.
If they’ve walked they’ve walked, and pretending they haven’t would be silly.
Any info that other bidders are waiting in the wings holding huge bundles of cash I’d treat with caution. RD is desperate to sell on his own terms, so it’s probable that everything he does is designed to get the Aussies to meet those terms, and it would be in his interests to put as much pressure on them as he can. He can afford to take a hit, but he won’t want to, in order not to lose face. I genuinely think he sees Charlton fans as the enemy to be defeated.
If there is a Brit consortium waiting in the wings (fronted by Murray possibly) hoping to get a bargain if the Aussies deal collapses, then again it would be in their best interests to undermine the Aussies’ bid. So both the leader of the Brit consortium and Duchâtelet have motives for making the Aussies look bad i.e. no money, Aussie nursery, buying the club, leaving Roland with the property titles, Rolf Harris etc etc. So any rumours involving those things I’d say treat with extreme caution. Except for Harris.
By all accounts players are being recruited in the background, possibly financed by the sale of Konsa, the boys are off to Portugal possibly financed by a sold player, so perhaps it isn’t all doom and gloom.
The message from GM yesterday was ‘Don’t believevthe rumours.’ I’m sticking with that. If they pull out we’ll know soon enough.
Of course the delays could be engineered to get the Pediction Thread up to 25 glorious pages ;-)
Just an off-topic question... Is a foreign trip nowadays a necessary part of preseason preparation? Regardless of the club's financial condition?
No, it's a waste of money.
I think you'd have to ask a couple of the players. Do thy want to play a
''Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason to believe it can't be in place again."
There might be loads of 'reasons'...Two knocked back 'major backers' could be one reason alone.
But as I said, there's no reason to believe funding can't (and actually might already) be in place again. Yes, if they were major backers it could well been why it's taking a few weeks to replace them. Speculation only, I've heard nothing about it. All I'm doing is saying temporary lack of funds doesn't mean they can't find funds, if indeed that is the issue.
The fact that it's dragged on for months suggest otherwise.
Over simplistic. If there was a genuine issue about funding they would have been shown the door ages ago. Duchatelet isn't a complete fool, and there are lawyers and accountants involved at each stage.
plus they had the funding around the middle of May and it was only the EFL who put the kibosh on it
The weeks they come and go, Our hopes started to glow, a thousand pages have now passed, Some members now can't be arsed, to climb the sale of Charlton mountain, when only dribbles come out the fountain, You need the patience of a saint, to watch the drying of this CAFC paint, Aussie, British or buyers from the east, the valley and sparrows they mustn't lease, We had wonderful days under Jimmy Seed, Don't let the Valley turn back to weed, With a little bit of unusual Charlton luck, Roland off; he will fuck.
Not having a go at anyone here but Im not sure it’s fair to keep saying the Aussie bid may have failed, just hours after GM has said it hasn’t. What’s the source of that info? He’s said they’re still in it a few hours ago.
I’m also not sure we should be using the Saudi bid as a yardstick, because we don’t know it’s 100% correct, as again we don’t know the source of the info. The £40 may be totally wrong for all we know.
In fact I would treat any info with extreme caution unless we know the source. There’s lots of unverified stuff flying around from all over the shop, and it’s doing everyone’s heads in. My critics will say I’m being used, but GM isn’t putting out figures or any info at all, other than they haven’t pulled out. It’s the third or fourth time he’s told me that, and they do still appear to be in the game.
If they’ve walked they’ve walked, and pretending they haven’t would be silly.
Any info that other bidders are waiting in the wings holding huge bundles of cash I’d treat with caution. RD is desperate to sell on his own terms, so it’s probable that everything he does is designed to get the Aussies to meet those terms, and it would be in his interests to put as much pressure on them as he can. He can afford to take a hit, but he won’t want to, in order not to lose face. I genuinely think he sees Charlton fans as the enemy to be defeated.
If there is a Brit consortium waiting in the wings (fronted by Murray possibly) hoping to get a bargain if the Aussies deal collapses, then again it would be in their best interests to undermine the Aussies’ bid. So both the leader of the Brit consortium and Duchâtelet have motives for making the Aussies look bad i.e. no money, Aussie nursery, buying the club, leaving Roland with the property titles, Rolf Harris etc etc. So any rumours involving those things I’d say treat with extreme caution. Except for Harris.
By all accounts players are being recruited in the background, possibly financed by the sale of Konsa, the boys are off to Portugal possibly financed by a sold player, so perhaps it isn’t all doom and gloom.
The message from GM yesterday was ‘Don’t believevthe rumours.’ I’m sticking with that. If they pull out we’ll know soon enough.
Of course the delays could be engineered to get the Pediction Thread up to 25 glorious pages ;-)
Just an off-topic question... Is a foreign trip nowadays a necessary part of preseason preparation? Regardless of the club's financial condition?
No, it's a waste of money.
I think you'd have to ask a couple of the players. Do thy want to play a
''Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason to believe it can't be in place again."
There might be loads of 'reasons'...Two knocked back 'major backers' could be one reason alone.
But as I said, there's no reason to believe funding can't (and actually might already) be in place again. Yes, if they were major backers it could well been why it's taking a few weeks to replace them. Speculation only, I've heard nothing about it. All I'm doing is saying temporary lack of funds doesn't mean they can't find funds, if indeed that is the issue.
The fact that it's dragged on for months suggest otherwise.
Over simplistic. If there was a genuine issue about funding they would have been shown the door ages ago. Duchatelet isn't a complete fool, and there are lawyers and accountants involved at each stage.
You saying that funds were ''100% in place on 18th May, so no reason to believe they can't be in place again" is also over simplistic.
We've already heard of 'reasons' why funds are not not in place, and there could be a load more.
Powerful rich wannabee owners would have rubbed RD out by now...
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'And I hold no hopes the funding issue has been resolved by the Aussies'? That's you're opinion, which is fair enough of course.
I think it will be resolved. Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason for me to believe it can't be in place again. Spoken as a true glass half full man of course ;-)
''Funding was 100% in place on 18th May, so no reason to believe it can't be in place again."
There might be loads of 'reasons'...Two knocked back 'major backers' could be one reason alone.
I have often been somewhat behind, I am currently on page 1002. My record is reading over thirty, yes folks, over thirty pages in one hit to catch up.
I should add that the background to this is that due to personal hygiene issues brought on by the fact that I simply do not have any spare time to shower or brush my teeth, all my friends have disappeared and my family have left me.
But I still have all my pals on charltonlife, or do I?
And like i said to him on Monday that’s something to be debated but it’s totally different from it not being discussed
I've got a binary 'flag' - should get a promote for that.
If so, and they are that confident of getting the investors on board, why is he not bridging the gap?
All I'm doing is saying temporary lack of funds doesn't mean they can't find funds, if indeed that is the issue.
Otherwise ad I promised you I will stick to PMs as we are all too wound up but rhis RD appeaaememt is a bit much and needs to be corrected.
I think it's supposed to be something called bonding.
If a player joins after the trip, they don't get bonded but attached with duck tape.
The gap bridging issue is way above my pay grade. Business acumen, maybe tells him not to go in too deep? Guessing of course.
Or perhaps he's promised funding post sale of the club. I have no idea really.
They don't speak to me. I occasionally hassle them for a yes or no answer basically.
If that’s a reality then Charlton are earning him money. I bet the queue to take such a good money making prospect off his hands goes right around the block.
Our hopes started to glow,
a thousand pages have now passed,
Some members now can't be arsed,
to climb the sale of Charlton mountain,
when only dribbles come out the fountain,
You need the patience of a saint,
to watch the drying of this CAFC paint,
Aussie, British or buyers from the east,
the valley and sparrows they mustn't lease,
We had wonderful days under Jimmy Seed,
Don't let the Valley turn back to weed,
With a little bit of unusual Charlton luck,
Roland off; he will fuck.
We've already heard of 'reasons' why funds are not not in place, and there could be a load more.
Powerful rich wannabee owners would have rubbed RD out by now...