He was with me in Northampton yesterday and i think i have converted him. It took a while but he now knows we are buggered under this lot
Steve, (RT69) don't rise to the nut scratchers. It's Sunday morning and they've finished playing with themselves so it's let's have a go at RT69. Reading your initial opening thread again I can see where you were coming from but having known you for over 40 years I know you are always glass half full give the guy a chance etc. Nothing wrong in that considering he'd only just got the job. As I couldnt make it yesterday we haven't had a chance to chat, what's your view now.
Thanks Steve - not posted on here for a long time.I have Always tried to be positive and give any manager of Charlton a chance.Some on here have their own agenda and only seem to delight at the Clubs woes.Pretty sad when one so called fan who was there yesterday celebrated when Northampton scored the winner.So getting back to my original post - Yes I wanted him to succeed and felt he was what was needed but some were critical of him simpley because he is a Scouser.The club is rotten from top to bottom and it appears he has lost the dressing room.If that is the case then reluctantly I feel he has to go and in the short term replace him with JJ hopefully to restore morale in the team and do enough to keep us up.I make no apology for starting this original post but if it pleases some on here then I will admit that in hindsight I was wrong.COYR
I have a lot of respect for what you are now saying. What I think Charlton need as a manager is an old experienced head ( I don't care if it is on young shoulders who will get respect of the players, quickly work out the best team and formation among the players he has and get them playing to that pattern and gets on quietly with that job and who is not a yes man and so is prepared to stand up to the Chairman, CEO and other sycophants who have little idea or experience in running a football club. This is exactly the same job spec that we have needed for the past x manager appointments - KR never came anywhere near in my opinion.
I'm actually very surprised he wasn't chopped yesterday. Protests plus a losing streak usually induce an itchy wrinkled Belgian trigger finger.
I'm surprised there's been no public outburst either. Those PR guys are earning their money, they must have Two Shats and Meire trussed up in a secret room like Terry Waite and John McCarthy.
He was with me in Northampton yesterday and i think i have converted him. It took a while but he now knows we are buggered under this lot
Steve, (RT69) don't rise to the nut scratchers. It's Sunday morning and they've finished playing with themselves so it's let's have a go at RT69. Reading your initial opening thread again I can see where you were coming from but having known you for over 40 years I know you are always glass half full give the guy a chance etc. Nothing wrong in that considering he'd only just got the job. As I couldnt make it yesterday we haven't had a chance to chat, what's your view now.
Thanks Steve - not posted on here for a long time.I have Always tried to be positive and give any manager of Charlton a chance.Some on here have their own agenda and only seem to delight at the Clubs woes.Pretty sad when one so called fan who was there yesterday celebrated when Northampton scored the winner.So getting back to my original post - Yes I wanted him to succeed and felt he was what was needed but some were critical of him simpley because he is a Scouser.The club is rotten from top to bottom and it appears he has lost the dressing room.If that is the case then reluctantly I feel he has to go and in the short term replace him with JJ hopefully to restore morale in the team and do enough to keep us up.I make no apology for starting this original post but if it pleases some on here then I will admit that in hindsight I was wrong.COYR
I am the stage where I would accept any manager (OK, not Belgians or Congo Chris but ..) male or female, ex Millwall even, If they could get the best out of the squad and give us something to be a little proud of.
The overriding feeling, however, is that anyone half decent will not even give us a second thought and we will be left with chancers, the never-weres (we're not even good enough for the also-rans to give us a look) and the dregs. As long as Roland and Katrien pull the strings (and despite what Robinson might say, they so clearly do) this won't get any better regardless of who is in charge.
Aware as I am of the Belgians' failings, I'm sick of the 'doesn't matter who the manager is' meme that gets posted fifty times to every thread on CL nowadays.
It clearly does. Fuck League Two. We need a good manager who will get this shower playing.
He was with me in Northampton yesterday and i think i have converted him. It took a while but he now knows we are buggered under this lot
Steve, (RT69) don't rise to the nut scratchers. It's Sunday morning and they've finished playing with themselves so it's let's have a go at RT69. Reading your initial opening thread again I can see where you were coming from but having known you for over 40 years I know you are always glass half full give the guy a chance etc. Nothing wrong in that considering he'd only just got the job. As I couldnt make it yesterday we haven't had a chance to chat, what's your view now.
Thanks Steve - not posted on here for a long time.I have Always tried to be positive and give any manager of Charlton a chance.Some on here have their own agenda and only seem to delight at the Clubs woes.Pretty sad when one so called fan who was there yesterday celebrated when Northampton scored the winner.So getting back to my original post - Yes I wanted him to succeed and felt he was what was needed but some were critical of him simpley because he is a Scouser.The club is rotten from top to bottom and it appears he has lost the dressing room.If that is the case then reluctantly I feel he has to go and in the short term replace him with JJ hopefully to restore morale in the team and do enough to keep us up.I make no apology for starting this original post but if it pleases some on here then I will admit that in hindsight I was wrong.COYR
I don't think it was wrong, just a bit short-sighted. The guy had been here 5 minutes and you were announcing that this could be (yet another) new beginning. As you rightly say, the club is rotten from top to bottom and any manager will have a hard time doing a good job. Whilst I think that Robinson has done a terrible job so far, I don't blame him fully, but he must share some of the blame. Regardless what people thought of Slade, his sides had some resilience, probably because he set the team up with a safety first mentality, but still, our defence was very good. I'm struggling to see any redeeming qualities in Robinson's team.
Aware as I am of the Belgians' failings, I'm sick of the 'doesn't matter who the manager is' meme that gets posted fifty times to every thread on CL nowadays.
It clearly does. Fuck League Two. We need a good manager who will get this shower playing.
It would only be a short term bounce (which admittedly is all we need now to stay up). But you know that whoever follows will quite soon comfortably fit the win percentages of all who have come before them.
I'm so disillusioned at the moment, all I care about is the quickest way possible to remove the cancer. im truly of the belief that if we have to plummet down to the kent league and reform to get these tossers out, then so be it
No manager is ever going to be a real success under the current ownership but Robinson is at Fraeye level right now, I can't see how anyone new can do even worse so in an effort to see us hopefully not dropping in to the fourth tier for the first time in our clubs history I hope he is gone soon.
I'm actually very surprised he wasn't chopped yesterday. Protests plus a losing streak usually induce an itchy wrinkled Belgian trigger finger.
I think Robinson is exactly the sort of manager they want fronting the media on their behalf so I am not surprised he is still in the job.
He seems to agree with the owners long term vision of the way the club is run, he appears to be on board with playing the youth and selling them on and he chats such a load of bollocks every time a camera is pointed at him he diverts a lot of the attention to the real problems away.
If I were RD I would be getting him signed up to a contract extension.
If I were RD I would be pricing the club up at -EUR 20m and getting rid of it before my ownership of it causes damage to the rest of my interests over and above that which is already caused.
As much as it'd be nice to keep Robinson and give him some time to settle the squad etc. I think it's almost impossible at this stage, lost the dressing room, insulted 40% of the squad directly- following that up the next game by saying it's not their fault. He's clueless and the results show that. Has to go.
And I know the general retort is we were calling for managerial stability and an experienced English manager but it's not our fault KM always manages to choose the worst one.
And I know the general retort is we were calling for managerial stability and an experienced English manager but it's not our fault KM always manages to choose the worst one.
As she and Duchatelet are primarily responsible for ensuring that any good candidates would not entertain the role (mainly Duchatelet's hands on interference and KM employed mainly as a stooge to facilitate this), I'm not sure it's that she chooses the worst one, but more a total joint lack of understanding of how to run a football club that is the issue.
If I were RD I would be pricing the club up at -EUR 20m and getting rid of it before my ownership of it causes damage to the rest of my interests over and above that which is already caused.
I think the romantic football fan in you is hiding the facts. I doubt there is anything going on at Charlton that will concern RD's other business partners. The guy is a major force in the electronics world, I doubt they even know of our concerns never mind give a shit.
He was with me in Northampton yesterday and i think i have converted him. It took a while but he now knows we are buggered under this lot
Steve, (RT69) don't rise to the nut scratchers. It's Sunday morning and they've finished playing with themselves so it's let's have a go at RT69. Reading your initial opening thread again I can see where you were coming from but having known you for over 40 years I know you are always glass half full give the guy a chance etc. Nothing wrong in that considering he'd only just got the job. As I couldnt make it yesterday we haven't had a chance to chat, what's your view now.
Thanks Steve - not posted on here for a long time.I have Always tried to be positive and give any manager of Charlton a chance.Some on here have their own agenda and only seem to delight at the Clubs woes.Pretty sad when one so called fan who was there yesterday celebrated when Northampton scored the winner.So getting back to my original post - Yes I wanted him to succeed and felt he was what was needed but some were critical of him simpley because he is a Scouser.The club is rotten from top to bottom and it appears he has lost the dressing room.If that is the case then reluctantly I feel he has to go and in the short term replace him with JJ hopefully to restore morale in the team and do enough to keep us up.I make no apology for starting this original post but if it pleases some on here then I will admit that in hindsight I was wrong.COYR
Good effort for that. Were there really some fans not wanting Robinson because he's a scouser ? I think the majority of fans were happy to give him a chance. Robinson hasn't helped himself from day one.
Referring to Roland as 'the president' was Robinson shooting himself in the foot very quickly
Robinson's post-match at Northampton when he was almost gushing about the players suggests someone in the club took him to one side and pointed out that alienating all the waiters and chefs in Roland's restaurant was not the way to get a Michelin star. I can't imagine that they all smiled and forgave him though.
As for his rather odd babbling about having tried all the formations known to man, comments he made after the defeats at Shrewsbury and Northampton, indicates to the wider world he's out of ideas.
If what remains of the home crowd aren't to completely turn on him, he must get a win tomorrow, even if it's a scrappy, ugly one. Anything other than three points and it might get very ugly. And if he wants to know what that might feel like, he should watch this an hour before Pardew was fired in 2008. https://youtu.be/bUp2VYJiEHM
KR has done an appalling job so far - its fairly ludicrous to suggest nobody else could do any better under these owners. He seems pretty clueless and talks bollocks - if that's what the club wants then he's a perfect fit.
If we go down to L2 under KR and he's kept on then we might as well declare CAFC dead and buried - short of bringing KF back or making KM manager I'm not sure how things can get any more ridiculous.
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Perhaps when RD sees his local paper this week, he may react
The overriding feeling, however, is that anyone half decent will not even give us a second thought and we will be left with chancers, the never-weres (we're not even good enough for the also-rans to give us a look) and the dregs. As long as Roland and Katrien pull the strings (and despite what Robinson might say, they so clearly do) this won't get any better regardless of who is in charge.
We are buggered. I am certain it has been discussed about sacking Robinson with the view of replacing him with O'Loughlin.
Ultimately whoever takes over does not make a jot of difference.
**Update. I did not see the post by Tracy69, credit there and fair play**
All we need now is for EssexAl to do the same thing.......
It clearly does. Fuck League Two. We need a good manager who will get this shower playing.
I'm so disillusioned at the moment, all I care about is the quickest way possible to remove the cancer. im truly of the belief that if we have to plummet down to the kent league and reform to get these tossers out, then so be it
He seems to agree with the owners long term vision of the way the club is run, he appears to be on board with playing the youth and selling them on and he chats such a load of bollocks every time a camera is pointed at him he diverts a lot of the attention to the real problems away.
If I were RD I would be getting him signed up to a contract extension.
As for his rather odd babbling about having tried all the formations known to man, comments he made after the defeats at Shrewsbury and Northampton, indicates to the wider world he's out of ideas.
If what remains of the home crowd aren't to completely turn on him, he must get a win tomorrow, even if it's a scrappy, ugly one. Anything other than three points and it might get very ugly. And if he wants to know what that might feel like, he should watch this an hour before Pardew was fired in 2008.
If we go down to L2 under KR and he's kept on then we might as well declare CAFC dead and buried - short of bringing KF back or making KM manager I'm not sure how things can get any more ridiculous.