100 greatest films of the 21st Century
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Oh, he did, Synecdoche is basically a development of similar ideas. I do like Eternal Sunshine but it's very much a Charlie Kaufman film for the mainstream. That's not a bad thing, it just depends what you're after. I really like the way Kaufman thinks so I enjoy him developing his ideas and driving into weird territory more, which Synecdoche does. It's not an easy film but once you get into it the payoff hits you much harder. I think it's his best film, with Adaptation next. You'd also probably really like Her as well. It's not Kaufman but it's Spike Jonze who is basically Charlie Kaufman with a skateboard and a head injuryAddick in SW16 said:
Pretty sure Kaufman did Eternal Sunshine firstGarrymanilow said:Glad to see Synecdoche, New York there. It's my favourite film of all time but you don't normally find a lot of people who have seen it or liked it. On the other hand though, it's annoying to see Eternal Sunshine so high up as it's essentially the finger painting version of Synecdoche.
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I imagine it would have involved less people staring off camera as that's Spielberg's preferred method of direction.kentaddick said:
i'd have loved to have seen kubrick's intepretation (since the film is written by him/his idea).Fiiish said:
Went on way too long. Should have ended when they were about to be burned. Then it should have ended when they were trapped underwater. Everything after that point completely ruined the whole film.JiMMy 85 said:
Flawed, certainly. Spielberg's direction is still masterful in that movie, and some of the themes are fascinating. The execution was ultimately quite boring to me admittedly, but diabolical is excessive. It shouldn't be in this list though.Fiiish said:AI, which I thought was frankly diabolical.
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The Departed probably isn't in it because it's basically an exact copy of a Japanese film.kentaddick said:This list is shocking. Inglorious basterds is far too low (disagree with OP, IG is second only to pulp fiction in QT's films, certainly his best since 2000), I can't see the departed on there either which is easily one of my favourite films this century.
Some really rubbish films in there as well. Holy Motors is way too high, sounds like one of those critics that sees a pretentious French film and thinks it must be amazing because it's French. I love French new wave movies but recently the country has been putting out some rubbish.
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Infernal is a far superior film, but i did enjoy the departed.SELR_addicks said:
The Departed probably isn't in it because it's basically an exact copy of a Japanese film.kentaddick said:This list is shocking. Inglorious basterds is far too low (disagree with OP, IG is second only to pulp fiction in QT's films, certainly his best since 2000), I can't see the departed on there either which is easily one of my favourite films this century.
Some really rubbish films in there as well. Holy Motors is way too high, sounds like one of those critics that sees a pretentious French film and thinks it must be amazing because it's French. I love French new wave movies but recently the country has been putting out some rubbish.
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Dogman v Catwoman didn't make the list then .0
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Strange one this - I'm a huge fan of both Kubrick and Spielberg.kentaddick said:
i'd have loved to have seen kubrick's intepretation (since the film is written by him/his idea).Fiiish said:
Went on way too long. Should have ended when they were about to be burned. Then it should have ended when they were trapped underwater. Everything after that point completely ruined the whole film.JiMMy 85 said:
Flawed, certainly. Spielberg's direction is still masterful in that movie, and some of the themes are fascinating. The execution was ultimately quite boring to me admittedly, but diabolical is excessive. It shouldn't be in this list though.Fiiish said:AI, which I thought was frankly diabolical.
AI's certainly not perfect but it had me in floods of tears by the end.
If Kubrick had made it, it might well have been a better film but I suspect it wouldn't have packed such an emotional punch.
I've seen 86 out of the 102 in the list...no idea what my number 1 would be.
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I haven't heard of 86 of that list, let alone seen them!0
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Heard of 32 of them, seen 16. Zodiac, Memento and Pan's Labyrinth probably the best three - with special mention for The Grand Budapest Hotel.0
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Funny that the guardian didnt go left field enough...not enough world cinema
The 21st century should be remembered as the era we realised you dont need the studio politics to make beautiful films.
City of God
Oldboy
Battle royale
Y tu mama tambien
Dead mans shoes
Taxi tehran
They should be in any top 10 of this century so far.
And for that very reason, beautiful films without the idiocy of Hollywood, i agree lynch should be no.1 and mullholland drive would be mine as well. Made in hollywood and yet, so not.
The thing with films is that you should hopefully make new preferences every day.
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the Lives of Others (rank 32) is magnificent and should be seen by everybody.3
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To be honest I have no idea what my favourite film is this century. The first two off the top of my head would be the Departed or Inglourious Basterds. The Dark Knight though is one of the only films I have seen on that list that I would consider my favourite.0
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Just realised Whiplash isn't in there. Criminal! I'd have that in for Boyhood, which is respected more for the for way it was made than the film itself.
I think even Jim Jarmusch would be surprised to see Only Lovers Left Alive on the list. It's quirky, and an interesting/ funny premise but not a classic.
I love Wall-E but Inside Out is second only to Toy Story 3 in Pixar's collection, which isn't in there at all.
In fact, there are no sequels in there, and very few remakes. I think they should be up front about the criteria, because ignoring sequels for the sake of it isn't entirely fair.2 -
The Dark Knight is a sequel.JiMMy 85 said:Just realised Whiplash isn't in there. Criminal! I'd have that in for Boyhood, which is respected more for the for way it was made than the film itself.
I think even Jim Jarmusch would be surprised to see Only Lovers Left Alive on the list. It's quirky, and an interesting/ funny premise but not a classic.
I love Wall-E but Inside Out is second only to Toy Story 3 in Pixar's collection, which isn't in there at all.
In fact, there are no sequels in there, and very few remakes. I think they should be up front about the criteria, because ignoring sequels for the sake of it isn't entirely fair.1 -
Well spotted. Go to the top of the class. Doesn't really change the point though.0
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no votes for Ex Machina?
One of the more thought provoking films of this century0 -
No Intouchable?
Whole thing is bollocks then.0 -
Not much in the way of British films.
Mike leigh for instance?
Vera Drake?
Happy Go Lucky?
Mr Turner?
Unless i skim read the list too fast.0 -
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Mulholland Drive is my favourite film. It is highly rewarding if you give it the time.
Memories of Murder from South Korea is excellent but missed out. Nick's recommendation The Lives of Others is indeed great and on UK Netflix.
People can whinge about such lists being pretentious but equally they shouldn't only be about what's popular.0 -
Blimey, I've seen 29 off that list. I must be more of a pretentious twonk that I thought :-/1
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Nah the 60s, early 70s and the 90s were decades that really showed you didn't need the American studio system to make incredible films.calydon_road said:Funny that the guardian didnt go left field enough...not enough world cinema
The 21st century should be remembered as the era we realised you dont need the studio politics to make beautiful films.
City of God
Oldboy
Battle royale
Y tu mama tambien
Dead mans shoes
Taxi tehran
They should be in any top 10 of this century so far.
And for that very reason, beautiful films without the idiocy of Hollywood, i agree lynch should be no.1 and mullholland drive would be mine as well. Made in hollywood and yet, so not.
The thing with films is that you should hopefully make new preferences every day.0 -
Type of film they show in the Barbican Cinema.ValleyGary said:Can tell its a list by critics. Pretentious, 'oooh its soo arty, lets suck off Hollywood' dog shit.
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Type of film they show in the Barbican Cinema.ValleyGary said:Can tell its a list by critics. Pretentious, 'oooh its soo arty, lets suck off Hollywood' dog shit.
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No "Night at the museum 2"? A travesty of epic proportions.
Any list that does not contain the "Mrs Brown's Boys" 3 hr directors cut is intellectual traitorous wank fodder of the highest order.1 -
What a lot of old crap.
Mulholland Drive is not even David Lynch's best movie and No Country for Old Men would't even make my top 100 Westerns. No Ken Loach or Mike Leigh? No Citizen Four? The Painted Veil, Birdman, Crash, Whiplash, Searching for Sugarman??
Slumdog Millionaiire and Lord of the Rings were not my personal favourites but it didn't do too badly at the Oscars
Come on.
Must be a BBC intern project for some idiot from Ox-bridge before they get transferred to the sports desk.1 -
This is madnessgrumpyaddick said:What a lot of old crap.
Mulholland Drive is not even David Lynch's best movie and No Country for Old Men would't even make my top 100 Westerns. No Ken Loach or Mike Leigh? No Citizen Four? The Painted Veil, Birdman, Crash, Whiplash, Searching for Sugarman??
Slumdog Millionaiire and Lord of the Rings were not my personal favourites but it didn't do too badly at the Oscars
Come on.
Must be a BBC intern project for some idiot from Ox-bridge before they get transferred to the sports desk.2 -
Honestly the fact that this list has no Bad Education: The Movie means it has zero credibility.1
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no. this is madness...Garrymanilow said:
This is madnessgrumpyaddick said:What a lot of old crap.
Mulholland Drive is not even David Lynch's best movie and No Country for Old Men would't even make my top 100 Westerns. No Ken Loach or Mike Leigh? No Citizen Four? The Painted Veil, Birdman, Crash, Whiplash, Searching for Sugarman??
Slumdog Millionaiire and Lord of the Rings were not my personal favourites but it didn't do too badly at the Oscars
Come on.
Must be a BBC intern project for some idiot from Ox-bridge before they get transferred to the sports desk.
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