It's not that we need the money that will be spent on repairing the rest of the squad. If we got 10mil for cousins ...we wouldn't see any of it. It's RDs, not charltons, end of.
It's the knowing that we have a businessman at the helm that really does not want to go as far as he can in getting the right price to match the value of a player.
It's demeaning to the club and the player itself.
"That's all your worth ...you can basically just walk out"
Not thought of it in this way. Wonder what Cousins thinks about the fee?
1.5m is a joke of a price for a young english player with plenty of experience who still had a fair bit of time left on his contract.
Yes he's English, yes he has experience, yes he's young - but I'm English, I have experience and I'm .... ok two out of three.
But the fee is based first and foremost on ability and JC is a steady lower Championship/top League 1 player. Yes we would all like to think one of our own was worth more but for me the fee isn't way off.
Well it's all been said but I have to add my tuppenceworth. In the current circumstances, where the big clubs are awash with money, how the hell do we sell give away Jordan Cousins for that fee?
That Jordan Cousins who is not only young and English (such attributes usually mean a larger fee) but also talented. (Remember that performance he put in against Notts Forest at an evening home game a few years ago - one of the best I have ever seen from a Charlton midfield player).
We all know Douchbag and squirrel face are incompetent and EVERYTHING they touch goes wrong. But things like this honestly make me wonder if they are not only incompetent but have much more sinister plans for this club.
And who the hell will they have left to sell this time next year to cover the huge losses that will come over the next 12 months?
(PS And watch QPR sell on Cousins for a huge profit in 12 or 24 months time)
All I'll say is that from that list only Joe Gomez was a Championship player... All the other fees received are as a League One team
I think that definitely plays a huge part in it. It not all down to the competence of the negotiator, although representatives from the seller and the buyer obviously play a part in that.
The biggest issue for us though, for lots of reasons, Belgian mismanagement among them but not alone, we keep finding ourselves in a weak bargaining position.
I've seen the comparisons between the fee for JBG and what Brighton have supposedly rejected for Stephens, but Brighton are a club who are performing well, on and off the pitch and have done so for several consecutive years. That means financially they are less stress to sell, but also they are providing a rewarding environment for their players meaning they are less likely to push hard for a move.
We're caught in a bit of a viscous cycle and have been for some time and that leaves us vulnerable and I;m sure buying clubs know that and will seek to use it their advantage.
Viscous, definition: having a thick, sticky consistency between solid and liquid. Yep, we're definitely in that EA
seeing as though JC came through the youth ranks & also before RD got his hands on this club, could Valley Gold members who have effectively paid for JC;s footballing education not get the real transfer fee disclosed under the freedom of information act.
seeing as though JC came through the youth ranks & also before RD got his hands on this club, could Valley Gold members who have effectively paid for JC;s footballing education not get the real transfer fee disclosed under the freedom of information act.
Cousins isn't a great player (good athlete though) and the fee is reasonable all things considered. Lookman is a completely different kettle of fish and when he goes he should command a serious fee which will be the acid test of the regimes transfer acumen.
Cousins isn't a great player (good athlete though) and the fee is reasonable all things considered. Lookman is a completely different kettle of fish and when he goes he should command a serious fee which will be the acid test of the regimes transfer acumen.
Get what you're saying. But is Lookman a different kettle of fish? With JC you're talking about an established player. Lookman has had half a season and is very much raw and a prospect.
Not suggesting for one minute that AL won't go on and become and established player. But, and it may just be me, I have seriously reservations about how far exactly he will go.
All that said, I should imagine he will go for a sizeable fee, but I'd be amazed if it was anymore than £2.5m.
“If we had been promoted or had a chance of getting promoted then maybe it would have been different and I’d have stayed.
“My aim is to be in the Premier League and a club that aspires to be in the Premier League. So it would have depended where we had finished in the Championship.”
No ambition results in Charlton losing its best players. I hate this Duchaelet ownership.
Duchatelet sell the fecking club to someone with some fecking ambition FFS.
Not sure he is Premiership quality. Always considered he was certainly good enough to be in the squad and usually good enough to command a place in the starting line up - but - his habit of sometimes taking one touch too many, mishitting the final pass/shot and just having a few bad games meant I saw him as a reasonable Championship player.
Which is why he has left the club to carry on playing at that level.
“If we had been promoted or had a chance of getting promoted then maybe it would have been different and I’d have stayed.
“My aim is to be in the Premier League and a club that aspires to be in the Premier League. So it would have depended where we had finished in the Championship.”
No ambition results in Charlton losing its best players. I hate this Duchaelet ownership.
Duchatelet sell the fecking club to someone with some fecking ambition FFS.
Not sure he is Premiership quality. Always considered he was certainly good enough to be in the squad and usually good enough to command a place in the starting line up - but - his habit of sometimes taking one touch too many, mishitting the final pass/shot and just having a few bad games meant I saw him as a reasonable Championship player.
Which is why he has left the club to carry on playing at that level.
In a better club, with better players and better movement, Jordan Cousins may have better options, and wouldn't need to take one extra touch ? Jordan Cousins is a promising playing and worth more than the 1.4 million Meire offloaded him for. Charlton's midfield is looking threadbare.
I was distraught about this until I learned that Philip Hammond is going to be Chancellor of the Exchequer and Boris Johnson is to be Foreign Secretary.
Leaks from the club suggested the Gomez fee was higher than reported, that hasn't turned out to be true, and I believe the Cousins fee is the lower one reported. Which is an absolute steal for QPR and a disgrace for us. Oscar Wilde said a cynic knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing. In that vein this deal is not incompetence or ignorance, but a cynical demonstration of power by this regime. Good luck Jordan, you are a good player who could become very good or great, you're young enough to do so. Roland you really are a bit of a bastard aren't you?
Cousins isn't a great player (good athlete though) and the fee is reasonable all things considered. Lookman is a completely different kettle of fish and when he goes he should command a serious fee which will be the acid test of the regimes transfer acumen.
Get what you're saying. But is Lookman a different kettle of fish? With JC you're talking about an established player. Lookman has had half a season and is very much raw and a prospect.
Not suggesting for one minute that AL won't go on and become and established player. But, and it may just be me, I have seriously reservations about how far exactly he will go.
All that said, I should imagine he will go for a sizeable fee, but I'd be amazed if it was anymore than £2.5m.
With Lookman you're buying a potential Premier League striker who's already knocked a few goals in at Championship level. There are plenty of cash rich lower level PL clubs who are willing to punt big money on players like Lookman at this stage in their career as they know a year later if he progresses he'll be attracting the interest of bigger clubs and they'll have no chance.
Jordan Cousins was one of the few players left that I took some pride in sporting. Unlike others I am aboslutely confident that he will eventually play in the FAPL.
Cannot remember having less enthusiasm for the club, certainly since the early 80s, and this is just another blow.
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Not thought of it in this way. Wonder what Cousins thinks about the fee?
But the fee is based first and foremost on ability and JC is a steady lower Championship/top League 1 player. Yes we would all like to think one of our own was worth more but for me the fee isn't way off.
sellgive away Jordan Cousins for that fee?That Jordan Cousins who is not only young and English (such attributes usually mean a larger fee) but also talented. (Remember that performance he put in against Notts Forest at an evening home game a few years ago - one of the best I have ever seen from a Charlton midfield player).
We all know Douchbag and squirrel face are incompetent and EVERYTHING they touch goes wrong. But things like this honestly make me wonder if they are not only incompetent but have much more sinister plans for this club.
And who the hell will they have left to sell this time next year to cover the huge losses that will come over the next 12 months?
(PS And watch QPR sell on Cousins for a huge profit in 12 or 24 months time)
Not suggesting for one minute that AL won't go on and become and established player. But, and it may just be me, I have seriously reservations about how far exactly he will go.
All that said, I should imagine he will go for a sizeable fee, but I'd be amazed if it was anymore than £2.5m.
Which is why he has left the club to carry on playing at that level.
Puts football and Charlton into perspective.
Oscar Wilde said a cynic knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing. In that vein this deal is not incompetence or ignorance, but a cynical demonstration of power by this regime.
Good luck Jordan, you are a good player who could become very good or great, you're young enough to do so.
Roland you really are a bit of a bastard aren't you?
I'm actually amazed that a guy who's renowned for being so tight is so bad at negotiating proper fees and let's his players go cheaply.