I was distraught about this until I learned that Philip Hammond is going to be Chancellor of the Exchequer and Boris Johnson is to be Foreign Secretary.
Puts football and Charlton into perspective.
Absolutely - are we going to be a country of pensioners with no pensions in 10 years?
Absolutely glad he's gone for peanuts, why are you all so upset? The less money this shower of shit owners get the better. We boycott season tickets and boycott buying food/drink at half time yet get annoyed when we get a low fee? Fuck em, the less money in their pockets the better.
Looks like the standed get rid of 14 players sign 6 and think you have a competitive team.
Good luck to him tho
Yup. I guess we have to wait until Bury but at the moment it looks like the same old bollocks except a league lower and with an English fella named coach instead of a Belgian.
“If we had been promoted or had a chance of getting promoted then maybe it would have been different and I’d have stayed.
“My aim is to be in the Premier League and a club that aspires to be in the Premier League. So it would have depended where we had finished in the Championship.”
No ambition results in Charlton losing its best players. I hate this Duchaelet ownership.
Duchatelet sell the fecking club to someone with some fecking ambition FFS.
Not sure he is Premiership quality. Always considered he was certainly good enough to be in the squad and usually good enough to command a place in the starting line up - but - his habit of sometimes taking one touch too many, mishitting the final pass/shot and just having a few bad games meant I saw him as a reasonable Championship player.
Which is why he has left the club to carry on playing at that level.
In a better club, with better players and better movement, Jordan Cousins may have better options, and wouldn't need to take one extra touch ? Jordan Cousins is a promising playing and worth more than the 1.4 million Meire offloaded him for. Charlton's midfield is looking threadbare.
Agreed - but Cousins probably doesn't want to spend any more of his time in League One. Squad looks very average now. Mid table at best?
If Crofts and Foley arrive (if) we might have a few options.
Weirdly, meaning weirdly, it was put to me by somebody at Welling that Roland doesn't seem too bothered about income, but he is obsessed with cutting costs. Kind of explains the duct tape and washing machine aspects, journeys on DLR, and of course any number of things at Charlton. We go on about reducing his income, but it seems not to bother him, but spending does.
Absolutely glad he's gone for peanuts, why are you all so upset? The less money this shower of shit owners get the better. We boycott season tickets and boycott buying food/drink at half time yet get annoyed when we get a low fee? Fuck em, the less money in their pockets the better.
Absolutely this. I don't understand all the upset either J BLOCK. This is good news as far as I'm concerned!
Weirdly, meaning weirdly, it was put to me by somebody at Welling that Roland doesn't seem too bothered about income, but he is obsessed with cutting costs. Kind of explains the duct tape and washing machine aspects, journeys on DLR, and of course any number of things at Charlton. We go on about reducing his income, but it seems not to bother him, but spending does.
I've long maintained that I don't think his biggest concern with Charlton is money. I don't necessarily agree that he has a hard time spending, as he spent pretty heavily on wages in January. At that point, he could easily have cashed in on the salable assets. I really think he's in this to show that he's a guru/genius/can break the mold of football. I think it's about "The Project."
To extend out the logic behind spending in January, I think he may actually be more concerned about, I don't know how to put this because "results" or "success" seems silly. Let's just say I think he's more concerned about perception of the club than money. All of that said, I think he and the people he has hired have absolutely no clue how to run a football club, or even a business in general.
Well it's all been said but I have to add my tuppenceworth. In the current circumstances, where the big clubs are awash with money, how the hell do we sell give away Jordan Cousins for that fee?
That Jordan Cousins who is not only young and English (such attributes usually mean a larger fee) but also talented. (Remember that performance he put in against Notts Forest at an evening home game a few years ago - one of the best I have ever seen from a Charlton midfield player).
We all know Douchbag and squirrel face are incompetent and EVERYTHING they touch goes wrong. But things like this honestly make me wonder if they are not only incompetent but have much more sinister plans for this club.
And who the hell will they have left to sell this time next year to cover the huge losses that will come over the next 12 months?
(PS And watch QPR sell on Cousins for a huge profit in 12 or 24 months time)
Paragraph 3 is what I have felt for a long time.
I fear they have ulterior motives that are going to have devastating consequences to us.
Just the sort of young player we should have and made Captain and built this season's team around if we were serious about progressing.
Good luck to him wanting to progress as a footballer though. Last season was enough to beat the loyalty and hope out of most rational people and the relegation not his fault.
Absolutely glad he's gone for peanuts, why are you all so upset? The less money this shower of shit owners get the better. We boycott season tickets and boycott buying food/drink at half time yet get annoyed when we get a low fee? Fuck em, the less money in their pockets the better.
Hadn't actually thought of it that way. Still a terrible fee but when you consider that even if we'd got 10m it would just go in RD's pocket, it's not a bad thing we got fuck all.
Very low fee with the money that's in football now.
We've had players in our academy that were tall, strong and quick but didn't have as much to their game as Cousins. I've seen comments that he's just a workhorse, has no football ability, no football brain etc. He competed at Championship level as soon as he came into the team at 19. He's played well in different roles and positions. To do that takes intelligence as well as fitness and effort. He's not the most technical player but he has enough about him.
He's a proven player in the league we were in. It wasn't that we needed him to be better to stay up, we needed more reliable Championship players like him. Instead much of the team was made up of untested foreign players and academy players. Add a coach like Fraeye and you have no chance.
It'll be interesting to see how he and QPR do next season. Quotes from JFH and Cousins himself suggest he'll be playing CM as a box to box player, with JFH looking to get a few goals from him. Jackson wasn't a goalscoring midfielder until later on in his career, I don't think it's impossible for Cousins to improve in that area. A lot of it is about timing runs, getting in the right areas.
It also wouldn't be surprising if he did well as a defensive midfielder or right back. He may end up as nothing more than a Championship player but then Simon Francis is playing in the Prem. He's got a chance of getting to that level at the right club playing a style that suits him.
So according to Ketts the Cousins fee was because he had a release clause in his new contract, so nothing to do with market value just what KM managed to negotiate with him and his agent last summer. So even if we had won promotion last year (never likely) he could still have left for the same amount, nothing to do with the league we are in.
When will she learn that release clauses are meant to be set pretty high?
Absolutely gutted to see him go. Not surprised but still hoped he'd stay even though deep down I knew there was no chance...
I think we will come to regret this one far more than letting Morrison/Stephens/Kermorgant go for next to nothing.
Not because of the price but because of where he could have taken this club...
Captain and leader in the making, I agree.
Again another thing I can't see with Cousins. You have to admire his commitment and effort shown, whilst breaking into first team football at a time when the club was a mess. But, like his ability to play beyond the championship, I question his ability around being a captain.
Had a great engine, gave 110% every time without fail, but never once did I look at him and think captain
I am guessing that the problem is that he wouldn't have signed the contract at all had it had a too high release clause. Same with the other high profile recent contract renewals...... They went for a short term appeasement of the fans in the hope we would stay up and push on and it backfired.
Good luck Jordan, I don't blame you for wanting to get away from the madhouse, that our football club has sadly become, the number of different managers/head coaches you have played under, but you always gave your best for the team, I hope you go on to have a great career and maybe one day come back to play for us, under new owners.
Jordan Cousins was one of the few players left that I took some pride in sporting. Unlike others I am aboslutely confident that he will eventually play in the FAPL.
Cannot remember having less enthusiasm for the club, certainly since the early 80s, and this is just another blow.
Get off cloud cuckoo land
If I thought you had a life beyond your keyboard I would happily make a bet with you, payable to the Upbeats (as I have done with two other bets on here).
SO he sign up beginning of last season with the thought of if we got relegated he can get out says it all
JC was one of our better players - I don't believe he is Prem quality but certainly better than League 1. It would be entirely reasonable that if we were relegated (which would have been a distinct possibility based on goings on at the club) a 'relegation release clause' would have been insisted upon by his agent as a condition of signing a new contract.
That's how it works, people - footballers have a limited life career and it makes sense to protect that career. I would not blame Jordan for having such a clause built into his then new contract.
Ketts reporting that the reason the Cousins fee was so low was an escape clause in his contract.
And there you have it.
Perhaps the relatively low fee allegedly paid for Ajose, was because he had a similar clause in his Swindon contract?
The players have the power.....not the clubs. I much preferred the old days when players were like slaves! (albeit a kind of slavery that most of us, given a chance. would have gleefully accepted).
The fee stuff is pretty irrelevant other than giving further weight to the arm that decision makers at our club continue to make useless decisions.
But it's irrelevant if we got £1 or £10m. We've no idea what Roland does with it and does not guarantee in any way it would impact on our budget by even a euro.
The only thing that matters is a versatile, injury free and solid performer now needs to be effectively replaced. We already had enough shit that needed replacing, let alone the good ones.
Cousins was guaranteed to put a shift in regardless of club backdrop, weather or pitch conditions. Many more talented players on our books haven't. Cousins was an asset to have in your squad, particularly in League One.
Ultimately, Cousins was going to leave and is right to want to - that's the tragedy here. The fee is a joke, especially considering what's going on around us at the moment in football. Even if the fee was £5m, Duchatalet would be a few million richer and we'd still be a bright, young, academy product poorer.
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Other than that, I'm really struggling. It's just another punch delivered to an already beaten man.
If Crofts and Foley arrive (if) we might have a few options.
Kind of explains the duct tape and washing machine aspects, journeys on DLR, and of course any number of things at Charlton.
We go on about reducing his income, but it seems not to bother him, but spending does.
To extend out the logic behind spending in January, I think he may actually be more concerned about, I don't know how to put this because "results" or "success" seems silly. Let's just say I think he's more concerned about perception of the club than money. All of that said, I think he and the people he has hired have absolutely no clue how to run a football club, or even a business in general.
I fear they have ulterior motives that are going to have devastating consequences to us.
Good luck to him wanting to progress as a footballer though. Last season was enough to beat the loyalty and hope out of most rational people and the relegation not his fault.
Looks like some a lot of the fans have activated that clause in their ST contracts as well.
Hadn't actually thought of it that way. Still a terrible fee but when you consider that even if we'd got 10m it would just go in RD's pocket, it's not a bad thing we got fuck all.
We've had players in our academy that were tall, strong and quick but didn't have as much to their game as Cousins. I've seen comments that he's just a workhorse, has no football ability, no football brain etc. He competed at Championship level as soon as he came into the team at 19. He's played well in different roles and positions. To do that takes intelligence as well as fitness and effort. He's not the most technical player but he has enough about him.
He's a proven player in the league we were in. It wasn't that we needed him to be better to stay up, we needed more reliable Championship players like him. Instead much of the team was made up of untested foreign players and academy players. Add a coach like Fraeye and you have no chance.
It'll be interesting to see how he and QPR do next season. Quotes from JFH and Cousins himself suggest he'll be playing CM as a box to box player, with JFH looking to get a few goals from him. Jackson wasn't a goalscoring midfielder until later on in his career, I don't think it's impossible for Cousins to improve in that area. A lot of it is about timing runs, getting in the right areas.
It also wouldn't be surprising if he did well as a defensive midfielder or right back. He may end up as nothing more than a Championship player but then Simon Francis is playing in the Prem. He's got a chance of getting to that level at the right club playing a style that suits him.
When will she learn that release clauses are meant to be set pretty high?
Had a great engine, gave 110% every time without fail, but never once did I look at him and think captain
That's how it works, people - footballers have a limited life career and it makes sense to protect that career. I would not blame Jordan for having such a clause built into his then new contract.
Perhaps the relatively low fee allegedly paid for Ajose, was because he had a similar clause in his Swindon contract?
The players have the power.....not the clubs. I much preferred the old days when players were like slaves! (albeit a kind of slavery that most of us, given a chance. would have gleefully accepted).
But it's irrelevant if we got £1 or £10m. We've no idea what Roland does with it and does not guarantee in any way it would impact on our budget by even a euro.
The only thing that matters is a versatile, injury free and solid performer now needs to be effectively replaced. We already had enough shit that needed replacing, let alone the good ones.
Cousins was guaranteed to put a shift in regardless of club backdrop, weather or pitch conditions. Many more talented players on our books haven't. Cousins was an asset to have in your squad, particularly in League One.