Though I'm actually quite happy with the appointment, it really doesn't change anything for me. Still won't be renewing and still will be going to as many away games as possible. Honestly I have a feeling that Roland has already planned a sale to an extent, in recent interviews/ reports from Belgium he's said he's not selling 'this summer' let's hope the half empty stadium and continued protests help speed it up a bit.
The climb down needed have happened. First thing they did was get rid of a perfectly good English manager, and proceed to make 5 foreign appointments, fail miserably, manage to make untold shit player signings, avoid relegation twice and then get relegated. Notwithstanding of all the bullshit and protests that have led to all out hatrid towards them. So we go full circle and end up with an English manager.
Granpa, as you can see from the first few replies, you're wasting your time mate!
They've asked for a British manager (not coach!) - they've got it, and he comes with a three year deal!
But as you've already seen, many on here are not willing to at least be cautiously optimistic in our new man!
Instead, they are already planning to demonstrate at the press announcement!, he will be gone by Christmas!, no chance of making his own signings!, puppet of the regime, and all the other ballshit that goes along with it!
It's a start, let's at least see what the next few moths bring!
Actually I'm quite pleased that a lot of them aren't going to come to the games next season. At least we can watch a match properly without all the vitriol and do what Charlton supporters do best, get behind the team that we all love!
See you at the Valley!
Got to be the most ignorant post so far this summer (apart from a few of mine). By supporting the team you are supporting a regime that has not one iota of benefit to the Charlton Athletic Football Club you say you support. The club is in terminal decline unless there are new owners and the only way that will happen is by stepping up the protests inside the Valley. You can voice your opposition to us there and then if you want.
Yep, that's me an ignoramous!
Thought you lot weren't coming to any more home games next season, so how are you going to protest from inside the Valley?
You've shouted, you've asked for change, now you've got it, but still not enough!
Me personally, I'm happy to give Slade a chance to change our fortunes around, maybe, just maybe, RD has seen the error of his ways, time will tell!
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
Laughable post. "Forget about Katrien," he says. I will - when she's gone.
You also don't need to tell fans to bugger off (not that your suggestion will be paid much credence by many). Thousands of fans are already refusing to renew. And if you think the appointment of Slade should and will convince them to return on a whim, then you're even more deluded than Roland.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. the last act of a clueless and desperate regime
BRITiSH, MANAGER, - They employ a British manager within one of the other network clubs. Big deal and a season too late.
3YEAR CONTRACT,- we'll see how long it lasts.
This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, - the last act of a clueless and desperate regime
and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situationremember the utter disdain this regime has shown towards Charlton fans, ramp up the protests and get them gone.
. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means and get them gone down the road before they do any further damage to the club.
He has learned a valuable lesson, nothing now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' easily duped like a gullible drip brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
Of course all is not suddenly okay but I am willing to throw my support back behind things and will not be protesting. I will now be renewing my season ticket. I believe it is a short term strategy from RD - one to get us up so he can sell and not make massive losses. However, the way I see it is, if we go up and he doesn't sell but continues then that's fine - I like the academy investment and maybe the realism that that is the future has to be acknowledged - allied to a good football management structure (which has been missing) might just see the whole thing work (regardless of meire's foot in the mouth prem stars of the future stuff - if we have a chance of going up to prem I believe we will go for it but not at all costs - just that she can't articulate herself properly).
The worst case scenario is if we don't go up - he won't sell then and we may end up as this lower league player farm we are all worried about. So on that basis, regardless of whether its seen as supporting 'the enemy' I will be fully behind the team in getting back up next year. Plenty of good derbies as well.
Granpa, as you can see from the first few replies, you're wasting your time mate!
They've asked for a British manager (not coach!) - they've got it, and he comes with a three year deal!
But as you've already seen, many on here are not willing to at least be cautiously optimistic in our new man!
Instead, they are already planning to demonstrate at the press announcement!, he will be gone by Christmas!, no chance of making his own signings!, puppet of the regime, and all the other ballshit that goes along with it!
It's a start, let's at least see what the next few moths bring!
Actually I'm quite pleased that a lot of them aren't going to come to the games next season. At least we can watch a match properly without all the vitriol and do what Charlton supporters do best, get behind the team that we all love!
See you at the Valley!
Got to be the most ignorant post so far this summer (apart from a few of mine). By supporting the team you are supporting a regime that has not one iota of benefit to the Charlton Athletic Football Club you say you support. The club is in terminal decline unless there are new owners and the only way that will happen is by stepping up the protests inside the Valley. You can voice your opposition to us there and then if you want.
Yep, that's me an ignoramous!
Thought you lot weren't coming to any more home games next season, so how are you going to protest from inside the Valley?
You've shouted, you've asked for change, now you've got it, but still not enough!
Me personally, I'm happy to give Slade a chance to change our fortunes around, maybe, just maybe, RD has seen the error of his ways, time will tell!
If that makes me ignorant then so be it!
Changing the manager was going to happen anyway. Yes he's british but you can surely understand the scepticism when the last british manager we approached less than a month ago, walked away from talks because he wasn't given assurances in writing about having full control of signings. If Slade has basically signed a deal to become a non-Belgian puppet then what has actually changed here? As someone said earlier on, we'll soon know who's controlling signings once the new players arrive.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
Granpa, as you can see from the first few replies, you're wasting your time mate!
They've asked for a British manager (not coach!) - they've got it, and he comes with a three year deal!
But as you've already seen, many on here are not willing to at least be cautiously optimistic in our new man!
Instead, they are already planning to demonstrate at the press announcement!, he will be gone by Christmas!, no chance of making his own signings!, puppet of the regime, and all the other ballshit that goes along with it!
It's a start, let's at least see what the next few moths bring!
Actually I'm quite pleased that a lot of them aren't going to come to the games next season. At least we can watch a match properly without all the vitriol and do what Charlton supporters do best, get behind the team that we all love!
See you at the Valley!
Got to be the most ignorant post so far this summer (apart from a few of mine). By supporting the team you are supporting a regime that has not one iota of benefit to the Charlton Athletic Football Club you say you support. The club is in terminal decline unless there are new owners and the only way that will happen is by stepping up the protests inside the Valley. You can voice your opposition to us there and then if you want.
You've shouted, you've asked for change, now you've got it, but still not enough!
You've done it again. I hope for your sake you're just a WUM.
The cynic in me says that this appointment is win, win for Russell Slade.
He's getting a longish contract at the age of 55.
If Roland and Katrien really have had a Damascusian epiphany then he has a budget to work with and the opportunity to do what he is good at.
If, as I suspect is more likely the case, Roland and Katrien continue to insist on network dross like Birdshit he can do a Curbs like constructive dismissal job and leave with his head held high as everyone in football knows and understands what a basket case our Club has become.
Nothing against Russell Slade at all if we ignore the 'Belgian Baggage' (talking generally rather than about Katrien in particular in the event of doubt). Steve Brown rates him highly as do other respected people within the game.
I'm afraid my lack of trust of the Regime outweighs my sense of decent appointment for the level.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
terrific post .. there just MUST be a 'ceasefire' for the first (say) six games of Slade's regime .. then if things are still seriously tits up, CARD & Co can start blasting away once more .. IF NOT, any new players (if any/many) and Slade, as experienced as he is, will be demoralised before the season is even properly under way
A ceasefire might have been appropriate had the demonstrations solely been about poor performances. They never were. Whilst uninspiring football, consistent and heavy defeats and relegation obviously fuelled fans' anger, that wasn't the root of the problem. The nub of it was, is and always will be the nature of the board. They are not in it for footballing reasons. They have been underhand and duplicitous. Nothing in this appointment gives us any reason to believe that that has changed. Roly will still be disinterested. Meire will still be incompetent. Both will continue to treat the fans with contempt. There is no reason for any hope that the appointment of Slade, means they have changed.
You jump to a lot of conclusions about the current regime. How do you know that 'they have not changed' for the better ? .. Answer .. you're presuming/guessing/too set in your ways to consider any other possibility other than what 'you believe' I am presuming (you'll tell me if I am wrong) that you no longer attend CAFC games as you have no wish to give funds to the Duchatelet regime .. if that's so, give your protests a rest and allow those (probably still a majority) who want to see the club do well on the field, and although they might very well wish the Duchatelet regime gone, would like to see a respite in the protests just to see if there is an improvement in player recruitment and on field performance. I.e., a 'ceasefire'. Say, for example, that we got promoted next season, I guess you would still be protesting, we get to the premier league and Duchatelet remains in situ, you are still protesting .. then methinks thou dost protest far tooooooo much. Still I guess you'd be wearing the black & white scarf and preaching but only to the converted. Conversely, as I have written several times on here, if after a few games, the team is still rubbish and underperforming, THEN get the guns back on deck and start blasting away at the perfidious Belgian
The Club have just made one positive step in two years and we are supposed to give 100% support to the regime? Sorry the protesting was not just about appointing a British manager, they need to re-assemble the whole senior Management team with good appointments with actual football knowledge. They need to completely overall the squad with suitable players that have a chance in getting us back to the Championship. They need to get rid of Meire as well, that is not really negotiable in most fans eyes. I am staggered a few people think that an appointment of one man with an as yet un-proven level of control is deemed enough to do a u-turn. Sorry not for me and looking at some of the other posts not for many others...thank God.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
terrific post .. there just MUST be a 'ceasefire' for the first (say) six games of Slade's regime .. then if things are still seriously tits up, CARD & Co can start blasting away once more .. IF NOT, any new players (if any/many) and Slade, as experienced as he is, will be demoralised before the season is even properly under way
A ceasefire might have been appropriate had the demonstrations solely been about poor performances. They never were. Whilst uninspiring football, consistent and heavy defeats and relegation obviously fuelled fans' anger, that wasn't the root of the problem. The nub of it was, is and always will be the nature of the board. They are not in it for footballing reasons. They have been underhand and duplicitous. Nothing in this appointment gives us any reason to believe that that has changed. Roly will still be disinterested. Meire will still be incompetent. Both will continue to treat the fans with contempt. There is no reason for any hope that the appointment of Slade, means they have changed.
You jump to a lot of conclusions about the current regime. How do you know that 'they have not changed' for the better ? .. Answer .. you're presuming/guessing/too set in your ways to consider any other possibility other than what 'you believe' I am presuming (you'll tell me if I am wrong) that you no longer attend CAFC games as you have no wish to give funds to the Duchatelet regime .. if that's so, give your protests a rest and allow those (probably still a majority) who want to see the club do well on the field, and although they might very well wish the Duchatelet regime gone, would like to see a respite in the protests just to see if there is an improvement in player recruitment and on field performance. I.e., a 'ceasefire'. Say, for example, that we got promoted next season, I guess you would still be protesting, we get to the premier league and Duchatelet remains in situ, you are still protesting .. then methinks thou dost protest far tooooooo much. Still I guess you'd be wearing the black & white scarf and preaching but only to the converted. Conversely, as I have written several times on here, if after a few games, the team is still rubbish and underperforming, THEN get the guns back on deck and start blasting away at the perfidious Belgian
I really thought that after 27 months that we have got through the mentality highlighted.
I have no idea why you would believe that they are willing to change.
Karel Fraeye is the only manager who didn't have my support. So as pointed out the situation hasn't really changed for most of us yet
I agree this is a welcomed change of direction by our illustrious dictator leader, but in itself isn't going to be enough. There's a lot of other policies and operating procedures that are going to have to change before I'll consider supporting the regime or stop protesting.
If Meire was replaced I might, just might, see a glimmer of change, not on the appointment of one individual when so many things are wrong. Good luck to Mr Slade and welcome to the madhouse.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
terrific post .. there just MUST be a 'ceasefire' for the first (say) six games of Slade's regime .. then if things are still seriously tits up, CARD & Co can start blasting away once more .. IF NOT, any new players (if any/many) and Slade, as experienced as he is, will be demoralised before the season is even properly under way
A ceasefire might have been appropriate had the demonstrations solely been about poor performances. They never were. Whilst uninspiring football, consistent and heavy defeats and relegation obviously fuelled fans' anger, that wasn't the root of the problem. The nub of it was, is and always will be the nature of the board. They are not in it for footballing reasons. They have been underhand and duplicitous. Nothing in this appointment gives us any reason to believe that that has changed. Roly will still be disinterested. Meire will still be incompetent. Both will continue to treat the fans with contempt. There is no reason for any hope that the appointment of Slade, means they have changed.
You jump to a lot of conclusions about the current regime. How do you know that 'they have not changed' for the better ? .. Answer .. you're presuming/guessing/too set in your ways to consider any other possibility other than what 'you believe' I am presuming (you'll tell me if I am wrong) that you no longer attend CAFC games as you have no wish to give funds to the Duchatelet regime .. if that's so, give your protests a rest and allow those (probably still a majority) who want to see the club do well on the field, and although they might very well wish the Duchatelet regime gone, would like to see a respite in the protests just to see if there is an improvement in player recruitment and on field performance. I.e., a 'ceasefire'. Say, for example, that we got promoted next season, I guess you would still be protesting, we get to the premier league and Duchatelet remains in situ, you are still protesting .. then methinks thou dost protest far tooooooo much. Still I guess you'd be wearing the black & white scarf and preaching but only to the converted. Conversely, as I have written several times on here, if after a few games, the team is still rubbish and underperforming, THEN get the guns back on deck and start blasting away at the perfidious Belgian
You started your post with "You jump to a lot of conclusions about the current regime." and then proceed to leap to a huge number of conclusions about protesters, what the majority want and even promotion to the premier league".
The team was backed under Luzon, Fraeye and Riga last season. It didn't stop us getting relegated.
BTW I welcome Slade, think he'll do a decent job and I want Charlton to win every game they play under him and every other manager. The problem hasn't been the managers (OK, yes it was with Fraeye) but the regime.
Granpa, as you can see from the first few replies, you're wasting your time mate!
They've asked for a British manager (not coach!) - they've got it, and he comes with a three year deal!
But as you've already seen, many on here are not willing to at least be cautiously optimistic in our new man!
Instead, they are already planning to demonstrate at the press announcement!, he will be gone by Christmas!, no chance of making his own signings!, puppet of the regime, and all the other ballshit that goes along with it!
It's a start, let's at least see what the next few moths bring!
Actually I'm quite pleased that a lot of them aren't going to come to the games next season. At least we can watch a match properly without all the vitriol and do what Charlton supporters do best, get behind the team that we all love!
See you at the Valley!
Got to be the most ignorant post so far this summer (apart from a few of mine). By supporting the team you are supporting a regime that has not one iota of benefit to the Charlton Athletic Football Club you say you support. The club is in terminal decline unless there are new owners and the only way that will happen is by stepping up the protests inside the Valley. You can voice your opposition to us there and then if you want.
Yep, that's me an ignoramous!
Thought you lot weren't coming to any more home games next season, so how are you going to protest from inside the Valley?
You've shouted, you've asked for change, now you've got it, but still not enough!
Me personally, I'm happy to give Slade a chance to change our fortunes around, maybe, just maybe, RD has seen the error of his ways, time will tell!
Look at where we are and how we got here, the continuous clown show which has seen a reputable club become a travelling circus freak show.
Sign a British manager and we are back on track and should follow blindly?
Come the end of September, lets see what the squad looks like, if there is strength in depth for a League 1 season then maybe a lesson has finally been learnt at some point. But to me it feels like there is still too many broken things loitering the club to be optimistic.
Will always back the team but I cannot think that everything is now going to be alright.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
So you're not getting a season ticket to West Ham next season now then?
I'm so happy that I can get back to watering my Rose garden now that, after 27 months and 5 nobodies later, we have appointed a manager with knowledge of the English leagues.
Call off the protests, burn the banners, let's get the first Eurostar to Belgium and apologise to Katrien's parents. We all got it wrong.
The only thing that has changed today is that the club has now appointed it's sixth manager/head coach since they took over. The squad looked woefully under-numbered at the start of last season and time will tell if we are in better shape for the up-coming one. The fact that Meire is still in her job and has spouted her mouth off in the last month at a conference, suggests to me that any real change is purely cosmetic.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
terrific post .. there just MUST be a 'ceasefire' for the first (say) six games of Slade's regime .. then if things are still seriously tits up, CARD & Co can start blasting away once more .. IF NOT, any new players (if any/many) and Slade, as experienced as he is, will be demoralised before the season is even properly under way
A ceasefire might have been appropriate had the demonstrations solely been about poor performances. They never were. Whilst uninspiring football, consistent and heavy defeats and relegation obviously fuelled fans' anger, that wasn't the root of the problem. The nub of it was, is and always will be the nature of the board. They are not in it for footballing reasons. They have been underhand and duplicitous. Nothing in this appointment gives us any reason to believe that that has changed. Roly will still be disinterested. Meire will still be incompetent. Both will continue to treat the fans with contempt. There is no reason for any hope that the appointment of Slade, means they have changed.
You jump to a lot of conclusions about the current regime. How do you know that 'they have not changed' for the better ? .. Answer .. you're presuming/guessing/too set in your ways to consider any other possibility other than what 'you believe' I am presuming (you'll tell me if I am wrong) that you no longer attend CAFC games as you have no wish to give funds to the Duchatelet regime .. if that's so, give your protests a rest and allow those (probably still a majority) who want to see the club do well on the field, and although they might very well wish the Duchatelet regime gone, would like to see a respite in the protests just to see if there is an improvement in player recruitment and on field performance. I.e., a 'ceasefire'. Say, for example, that we got promoted next season, I guess you would still be protesting, we get to the premier league and Duchatelet remains in situ, you are still protesting .. then methinks thou dost protest far tooooooo much. Still I guess you'd be wearing the black & white scarf and preaching but only to the converted. Conversely, as I have written several times on here, if after a few games, the team is still rubbish and underperforming, THEN get the guns back on deck and start blasting away at the perfidious Belgian
Everyone has their own tipping point. Some will never set foot in the Valley until the regime has gone, others will now start getting out the bunting.
Personally I am cautious (but not optimistic). If the squad matches Slade's requirements then I will attend (whilst minimising spend) and will probably wind back 'in game' protests to support the team - at least for a few games. However, I definitely think a couple of 'kick-off disruption' protests, just to let them know we are still here, should occur and there is no reason to stop post-game protests or other media activity whilst KM/TC/RM have any say in the day-to-day running of the club.
That is my position. I know some will boycott, I know some will tut if I wear a CARD shirt and I know there will be plenty of stand up chants that I may not join in with again. I am happy for people to have their own point of view (and I am happy to explain my stance, even though I realise some of the logic is flawed).
Reading this back - I'm not sure of the point of my ramble, I think I'm neither for nor against Lincs or Stig. I think my position is not so much a ceasefire, but a fall back to skirmishing/propaganda while I try and work out if there has been anything other than a cosmetic change.
The appointment of Russell Slade is a mega climb-down. BRITiSH, MANAGER, 3YEAR CONTRACT, This represents a recognition of the need to make changes in thinking by the owner, and great work by CARD and others. Now if we want the Club to move forward we all need to take a positive attitude towards the situation. Of course I am aware that more things need to change, but let's show Roland what being proper Charlton really means. He has learned a valuable lesson, now let's open his eyes to more. Forget about Katien, she is ridculously misplaced in her role. Let's get behind Russell and the lads, and would the ' glass half full ' brigade kindly bugger off somewhere else.
terrific post .. there just MUST be a 'ceasefire' for the first (say) six games of Slade's regime .. then if things are still seriously tits up, CARD & Co can start blasting away once more .. IF NOT, any new players (if any/many) and Slade, as experienced as he is, will be demoralised before the season is even properly under way
A ceasefire might have been appropriate had the demonstrations solely been about poor performances. They never were. Whilst uninspiring football, consistent and heavy defeats and relegation obviously fuelled fans' anger, that wasn't the root of the problem. The nub of it was, is and always will be the nature of the board. They are not in it for footballing reasons. They have been underhand and duplicitous. Nothing in this appointment gives us any reason to believe that that has changed. Roly will still be disinterested. Meire will still be incompetent. Both will continue to treat the fans with contempt. There is no reason for any hope that the appointment of Slade, means they have changed.
You jump to a lot of conclusions about the current regime. How do you know that 'they have not changed' for the better ? .. Answer .. you're presuming/guessing/too set in your ways to consider any other possibility other than what 'you believe' I am presuming (you'll tell me if I am wrong) that you no longer attend CAFC games as you have no wish to give funds to the Duchatelet regime .. if that's so, give your protests a rest and allow those (probably still a majority) who want to see the club do well on the field, and although they might very well wish the Duchatelet regime gone, would like to see a respite in the protests just to see if there is an improvement in player recruitment and on field performance. I.e., a 'ceasefire'. Say, for example, that we got promoted next season, I guess you would still be protesting, we get to the premier league and Duchatelet remains in situ, you are still protesting .. then methinks thou dost protest far tooooooo much. Still I guess you'd be wearing the black & white scarf and preaching but only to the converted. Conversely, as I have written several times on here, if after a few games, the team is still rubbish and underperforming, THEN get the guns back on deck and start blasting away at the perfidious Belgian
You started your post with "You jump to a lot of conclusions about the current regime." and then proceed to leap to a huge number of conclusions about protesters, what the majority want and even promotion to the premier league".
The team was backed under Luzon, Fraeye and Riga last season. It didn't stop us getting relegated.
BTW I welcome Slade, think he'll do a decent job and I want Charlton to win every game they play under him and every other manager. The problem hasn't been the managers (OK, yes it was with Fraeye) but the regime.
well yes, the mangers appointed by the regime and the seeming intransigence of the regime .. however, we are going round in circles here .. YES the regime has been shite .. I was questioning the appointment of Meire when you were photographing her and extoling her virtues as she sold matchday programmes in the streets around the Valley, whereas I have always doubted her ability to direct CAFC and I still do .. BUT .. the Slade appointment indicates to me that there has been a change of heart by Duchatelet, only time will tell .. I repeat that my concern is that on-going protests from the start of the season will undo any potential improvement inherent in the Slade appointment and self fulfilling prophecies/hopes/fears about the regime will come to pass. i.e. poor results as a consequence of poor morale as a result of venom and abuse as well as a poisonous atmosphere around the Valley .., then all the 'protesters' can scream 'I told you so' .. I repeat .. GIVE THE REGIME AND SLADE A CHANCE AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST FEW GAMES ..
Sorry, but how does this change anything ? If people think all the protesting has been about appointing a British manager, they're not only mistaken but ignorant.
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Honestly I have a feeling that Roland has already planned a sale to an extent, in recent interviews/ reports from Belgium he's said he's not selling 'this summer' let's hope the half empty stadium and continued protests help speed it up a bit.
Thought you lot weren't coming to any more home games next season, so how are you going to protest from inside the Valley?
You've shouted, you've asked for change, now you've got it, but still not enough!
Me personally, I'm happy to give Slade a chance to change our fortunes around, maybe, just maybe, RD has seen the error of his ways, time will tell!
If that makes me ignorant then so be it!
You also don't need to tell fans to bugger off (not that your suggestion will be paid much credence by many). Thousands of fans are already refusing to renew. And if you think the appointment of Slade should and will convince them to return on a whim, then you're even more deluded than Roland.
Everyday she is employed to represent Charlton is unacceptable for me.
Changing the manager was going to happen anyway. Yes he's british but you can surely understand the scepticism when the last british manager we approached less than a month ago, walked away from talks because he wasn't given assurances in writing about having full control of signings.
If Slade has basically signed a deal to become a non-Belgian puppet then what has actually changed here?
As someone said earlier on, we'll soon know who's controlling signings once the new players arrive.
He's getting a longish contract at the age of 55.
If Roland and Katrien really have had a Damascusian epiphany then he has a budget to work with and the opportunity to do what he is good at.
If, as I suspect is more likely the case, Roland and Katrien continue to insist on network dross like Birdshit he can do a Curbs like constructive dismissal job and leave with his head held high as everyone in football knows and understands what a basket case our Club has become.
Nothing against Russell Slade at all if we ignore the 'Belgian Baggage' (talking generally rather than about Katrien in particular in the event of doubt). Steve Brown rates him highly as do other respected people within the game.
I'm afraid my lack of trust of the Regime outweighs my sense of decent appointment for the level.
Sorry but that's how it is.
I am presuming (you'll tell me if I am wrong) that you no longer attend CAFC games as you have no wish to give funds to the Duchatelet regime .. if that's so, give your protests a rest and allow those (probably still a majority) who want to see the club do well on the field, and although they might very well wish the Duchatelet regime gone, would like to see a respite in the protests just to see if there is an improvement in player recruitment and on field performance. I.e., a 'ceasefire'.
Say, for example, that we got promoted next season, I guess you would still be protesting, we get to the premier league and Duchatelet remains in situ, you are still protesting .. then methinks thou dost protest far tooooooo much. Still I guess you'd be wearing the black & white scarf and preaching but only to the converted.
Conversely, as I have written several times on here, if after a few games, the team is still rubbish and underperforming, THEN get the guns back on deck and start blasting away at the perfidious Belgian
I have no idea why you would believe that they are willing to change.
I agree this is a welcomed change of direction by our illustrious
dictatorleader, but in itself isn't going to be enough. There's a lot of other policies and operating procedures that are going to have to change before I'll consider supporting the regime or stop protesting.The team was backed under Luzon, Fraeye and Riga last season. It didn't stop us getting relegated.
BTW I welcome Slade, think he'll do a decent job and I want Charlton to win every game they play under him and every other manager. The problem hasn't been the managers (OK, yes it was with Fraeye) but the regime.
Sign a British manager and we are back on track and should follow blindly?
Come the end of September, lets see what the squad looks like, if there is strength in depth for a League 1 season then maybe a lesson has finally been learnt at some point. But to me it feels like there is still too many broken things loitering the club to be optimistic.
Will always back the team but I cannot think that everything is now going to be alright.
Call off the protests, burn the banners, let's get the first Eurostar to Belgium and apologise to Katrien's parents. We all got it wrong.
Roland, Richard and Katrien... I'm sorry.
Personally I am cautious (but not optimistic). If the squad matches Slade's requirements then I will attend (whilst minimising spend) and will probably wind back 'in game' protests to support the team - at least for a few games.
However, I definitely think a couple of 'kick-off disruption' protests, just to let them know we are still here, should occur and there is no reason to stop post-game protests or other media activity whilst KM/TC/RM have any say in the day-to-day running of the club.
That is my position. I know some will boycott, I know some will tut if I wear a CARD shirt and I know there will be plenty of stand up chants that I may not join in with again.
I am happy for people to have their own point of view (and I am happy to explain my stance, even though I realise some of the logic is flawed).
Reading this back - I'm not sure of the point of my ramble, I think I'm neither for nor against Lincs or Stig. I think my position is not so much a ceasefire, but a fall back to skirmishing/propaganda while I try and work out if there has been anything other than a cosmetic change.
well yes, the mangers appointed by the regime and the seeming intransigence of the regime .. however, we are going round in circles here ..
YES the regime has been shite .. I was questioning the appointment of Meire when you were photographing her and extoling her virtues as she sold matchday programmes in the streets around the Valley, whereas I have always doubted her ability to direct CAFC and I still do ..
BUT .. the Slade appointment indicates to me that there has been a change of heart by Duchatelet, only time will tell ..
I repeat that my concern is that on-going protests from the start of the season will undo any potential improvement inherent in the Slade appointment and self fulfilling prophecies/hopes/fears about the regime will come to pass. i.e. poor results as a consequence of poor morale as a result of venom and abuse as well as a poisonous atmosphere around the Valley .., then all the 'protesters' can scream 'I told you so' .. I repeat .. GIVE THE REGIME AND SLADE A CHANCE AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST FEW GAMES ..