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Well I was prepared to give them a chance. Not now... the bungling fools must go0
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Hi Roland, save yourself the trouble of any more pointless negotiations and just appoint yourself as manager3
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In our local paper about our chairman saying there is other interest in CW & AK. On our official site too...
http://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/article/chris-wilder-charlton-athletic-northampton-town-3108581.aspx
Pretty certain he won't be managing us again anyway!1 -
FYI Clark is now at 5/1. Only asked about him 20 minutes ago and has immediately moved in from 8/11
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Like Airman I believe that they wanted Wilder. However they are not prepared to offer the terms and conditions that would secure a man from Northampton. You imply that you were not impressed with a bloke who had only won League Two. Well we couldn't meet his demands. If we want a British manager it seems we need to adjust our sights a whole lot lower!SDAddick said:
Really? Even if he'd been appointed, I don't think a manager who'd just won League Two and never coached above that level would have impressed that many.Mametz said:The frightening, and I mean really frightening, thing about this is there will still be supporters, sorry customers, who will say he really has changed and did go after a British manager.
Given what Rich Cawley and Large have said, I think it's clear they genuinely wanted CW. I'm genuinely curious to know how many not on here or on Twitter had even heard of him. If you were going for a publicity stunt, why go with Chris Wilder?3 -
I will tell you one thing Colin that is bang on and none of your make believe stuff....................................Sheff Utd will come good!colin1961 said:Very simple Sheffield Utd have entered the race and that's his number one love ........ Nigel Adkins ?
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I want to see Katrein lie her way out of this one.2
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Blimey saw through the lies quicker than I thought he would!Red7Oak said:If Wilder does come he will presumably be reporting in to KM in some form or another! Whatever he is promised, he will soon learn it is all LIES! So how long will he last. How can he galvanise team morale when someone in the background he reports to is destroying it?
Should be an interesting summer!2 -
Kelly Holmes?ShootersHillGuru said:So has Nicky Holmes signed yet ?
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LOL
CW....put it in writing...
KM....
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So it was all going well until he asked them to put their lies in writing.
As predictable as it is hilarious.9 -
Wilder walking away gives further credence to the football village and wider business story of how poorly Meire is running the club, her CV really is getting direct hit after direct hit.
She'll soon be in a position where her business reputation will be so tarnished she'll have to rely solely on the RD network for any and all future roles.0 -
Every day Meire is employed is a bloody insult. I am absolutely sick of this.grumpyaddick said:She couldn't even organise a death in a mortuary.
Once the inevitable happens we’ll get another patronising, fiction-filled statement welcoming O’Loughlin or Vinegaric.
If it’s the St Truiden reject they’ll probably even 'justify' his appointment by saying they always wanted a British manager. Bastards.4 -
I understand completely why he's turned us down, just shows what a total mess the club is in ( as if we needed further proof )cafcnick1992 said:
Managers are only the flavour of the month for a whole, and a disaster in one job can change a manager's reputation very quickly.MikeBaileysFanClub said:You couldn't make this up ! Being turned down by Northampton's manager for Christ sake .......................
Why join a club where inadequate signings from poor leagues are forced in front of you?0 -
They must work hard to be this incompetent.1
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Do Katrien's text messages not count as "in writing" ?1
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I think it's cobblers myselfHenry Irving said:Can I just say that "Shoe Army" is a great chant/user name
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And I think it shows how poorly run this football club is because I don't think they want an English manager, they want an English coach, but they struggle to see the difference. Everything we've seen and heard about Wilder indicated that he'd want the traditional manager's role, full control over transfers, and Charlton are not going to give that to a manager. So from the off they were barking up the wrong tree.Mametz said:
Like Airman I believe that they wanted Wilder. However they are not prepared to offer the terms and conditions that would secure a man from Northampton. You imply that you were not impressed with a bloke who had only won League Two. Well we couldn't meet his demands. If we want a British manager it seems we need to adjust our sights a whole lot lower!SDAddick said:
Really? Even if he'd been appointed, I don't think a manager who'd just won League Two and never coached above that level would have impressed that many.Mametz said:The frightening, and I mean really frightening, thing about this is there will still be supporters, sorry customers, who will say he really has changed and did go after a British manager.
Given what Rich Cawley and Large have said, I think it's clear they genuinely wanted CW. I'm genuinely curious to know how many not on here or on Twitter had even heard of him. If you were going for a publicity stunt, why go with Chris Wilder?
I've argued that a manager shouldn't be given full control over transfers, as I think it's antiquated. Obviously the problem with the club is we don't know who (Roland) is in charge of transfers at present.
I'm also curious as to why they thought it made sense to bring in a manager and then a Director of Football and Chief Scout. If they're not going to give the manager control over transfers, then surely that would be the DoF's job, with the Chief Scout and Manager reporting to him. And if the manager did have control over transfer, what would the Director of Football's role be? It makes me wonder what all is going on with Lennie Lawrence, IF the manager is in charge of transfers and IF he (Lennie) is being lined up as director of football (big ifs, I know), then what would he be in charge of exactly?
I suspect things are far worse than simply having a lower league manager turning us down, I don't think the club even knows what they want or why they want it.4 -
People in the football business like to tell us it isn't like normal business. Doesn't seem that way to me.
You budget for the third lowest wages in the league? You end up in the third lowest position. Or worse, if you spend the money badly.
You are a club in the Third Division, and you offer a job to a manager who is also in the Third Division and is seen as a rising star. You are one of several businesses interested in getting him. But you have the reputation as one of the worst employers in the business. He decides to turn you down.
Not a mystery, not witchcraft, not rocket science. A perfectly normal set of business outcomes.43 - Sponsored links:
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Roland chooses the managers. She didn't hide her disgust in the office when she found out Bob was being hired (she knew of him from Belgium and actively disliked the man). If we do end up with the Upjest guy, it'll be very interesting to see Katrien's next move......carly burn said:As I said. Doors are closing. Even the non credible candidates will be turning their noses up.
This is all about Meire imo. He bought this club for her. She runs it her way.She will never be bought to task or sacked. As long as Duchatelet's here ,so will she be. Nobody will tell her what to do,no matter how good it is for the club. That's the remit.
The very fibre of this club is under threat because of a senial old scroat and his attempts to woo and impress a young girl.
There it is. Black and White.0 -
Just got out of a meeting, and to be honest expected this news. There is no way we will get any self respecting manager - absolutely no way.1
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A bit strange that. There was an agreement in place that allowed Charlton to talk to Wilder, but "no approach was made?" Wouldn't Charlton being allowed to talk to Wilder mean that an approach of some form was made?shoearmy said:In our local paper about our chairman saying there is other interest in CW & AK. On our official site too...
http://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/article/chris-wilder-charlton-athletic-northampton-town-3108581.aspx
Pretty certain he won't be managing us again anyway!
Also, sorry about my earlier post, didn't realize you were Northampton. Agree with the above, brilliant user name.0 -
That's right up there with "The money is in the bank" regarding our supposed Swedish/Turkish takeovercarly burn said:Meanwhile, a respected poster on 'into the valley' this morning:
He WILL be our next manager, 200%.2 -
The redesigned Valley prepares to welcome our next head coach. To prevent disruption, netting has been retained in front of the new North corridor/fire exit.5 -
Katie---- Kat --- remember all those 20 applications you waded through in 5 nano seconds before appointing our " Alex Ferguson " ? Do you still have them ??? Might be worth digging em out and seeing if any are still available------- might be a tad more difficult this time now that we have improved after every managerial change, could take you over 2 mins before you give it to Nobody Vineger
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O yes and my other thought was fuck off out of OUR club4 -
No way did we end up with the third lowest budget in the league, not a chance. Roland himself admitted we had gone over budget. Which makes the whole thing even worse.PragueAddick said:People in the football business like to tell us it isn't like normal business. Doesn't seem that way to me.
You budget for the third lowest wages in the league? You end up in the third lowest position. Or worse, if you spend the money badly.
You are a club in the Third Division, and you offer a job to a manager who is also in the Third Division and is seen as a rising star. You are one of several businesses interested in getting him. But you have the reputation as one of the worst employers in the business. He decides to turn you down.
Not a mystery, not witchcraft, not rocket science. A perfectly normal set of business outcomes.2 -
The only thing that I find remotely surprising about this whole sorry mess is the fact that any of you are remotely surprised.
Just when you think KM's credibility couldn't get any lower!1 -
Please tell me thats Steve not LeePaddyP17 said:FYI Clark is now at 5/1. Only asked about him 20 minutes ago and has immediately moved in from 8/1
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If we keep digging we will eventually reach the bottom of this shit pit... won't we?3
