The frightening, and I mean really frightening, thing about this is there will still be supporters, sorry customers, who will say he really has changed and did go after a British manager.
I was pleased he was going for a British manager, but my emotions have U-turned again. If Wilder couldn't get control assurances on paper, then that is a blodoy disgrace on Roland's part.
none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
The frightening, and I mean really frightening, thing about this is there will still be supporters, sorry customers, who will say he really has changed and did go after a British manager.
Really? Even if he'd been appointed, I don't think a manager who'd just won League Two and never coached above that level would have impressed that many.
Given what Rich Cawley and Large have said, I think it's clear they genuinely wanted CW. I'm genuinely curious to know how many not on here or on Twitter had even heard of him. If you were going for a publicity stunt, why go with Chris Wilder?
none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
His position was as strong as it gets there. The owner had already stated that they had offered him a pay rise, it met the demands of Wilder himself, and it was as much as they could afford to pay. This wasn't about Wilder holding NTFC to ransom.
The frightening, and I mean really frightening, thing about this is there will still be supporters, sorry customers, who will say he really has changed and did go after a British manager.
Really? Even if he'd been appointed, I don't think a manager who'd just won League Two and never coached above that level would have impressed that many.
Given what Rich Cawley and Large have said, I think it's clear they genuinely wanted CW. I'm genuinely curious to know how many not on here or on Twitter had even heard of him. If you were going for a publicity stunt, why go with Chris Wilder?
No shadow of a doubt they wanted him and thought they had got him. I also think Wilder was very keen to come. Then he met Katrien. What could go wrong?
none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
" I don't regard a 3 -way conference call with an owner in a Belgian wine cellar and a CEO in her Dubai hotel's spa while I'm sat in the valley Caff as serious grounds for negotiation"
Our chairman has said there is other interest in CW and AK but no official approach.
Where was this said? Given they had permission to talk to him from Northampton, which usually means there's a deal in place in principle, this would be the worst lie of all for me.
To be fair you would have to be not well or desperate to work with these clowns at present. There was no way that they were going to let Wilder have full control of who he could bring in. 99% of us knew that was not going to happen.
none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
you on a wind up?
Nope, I want them gone as much as the next man, but the knee jerk reactions on here that it must be their fault, when nobody than those involved in the talks know the reasons. Could be a multitude of reasons, and some could be down to CW's demands
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You are in luck Lord Duchalet! My Great Aunt Betilda has just joined the Upstairs Singing Choir and she has left to me several millions of unused football managers which unfortunately are stuck here in Nigeria. Please send to me Lord Duchalet your bank details so that you can share in my good fortune and I will in return send to your village in London many thousands of my managers who will embrace you and your kin and the one called Liar and they will make good soccer for you.
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none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
you on a wind up?
Nope, I want them gone as much as the next man, but the knee jerk reactions on here that it must be their fault, when nobody than those involved in the talks know the reasons. Could be a multitude of reasons, and some could be down to CW's demands
Chris Wilder will not be the new #cafc manager. Really wanted job but club refused to put the assurances over control, buying etc in writing
And that folks is why we'll never get anyone other than some useless foreign network no hoper as long as RD is in charge. Absolute shambles. I hope CARD have more protests planned.
none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
you on a wind up?
Nope, I want them gone as much as the next man, but the knee jerk reactions on here that it must be their fault, when nobody than those involved in the talks know the reasons. Could be a multitude of reasons, and some could be down to CW's demands
It's true, it could be. But given recent history and everything that we have learned from former players, managers and other staff that have worked under this regime, it is relatively safe to assume that the problem is something to do with Roland refusing to give the manager control of his playing squad. We don't know for sure but it would be a big departure for Roland if this wasn't the case.
none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
you on a wind up?
Nope, I want them gone as much as the next man, but the knee jerk reactions on here that it must be their fault, when nobody than those involved in the talks know the reasons. Could be a multitude of reasons, and some could be down to CW's demands
It's true, it could be. But given recent history and everything that we have learned from former players, managers and other staff that have worked under this regime, it is relatively safe to assume that the problem is something to do with Roland refusing to give the manager control of his playing squad. We don't know for sure but it would be a big departure for Roland if this wasn't the case.
and is exactly as many of us expected ... he will never give a manager the control that is required ... and that's before you get to the problem that is KM
none of us were involved in the negotiations, who knows why it didn't go through, people on here automatically blame KM & RD, how do we know that MW or even AK weren't making outrageous requests knowing they would be rejected, so he could strengthen his position at the cobblers.
you on a wind up?
Nope, I want them gone as much as the next man, but the knee jerk reactions on here that it must be their fault, when nobody than those involved in the talks know the reasons. Could be a multitude of reasons, and some could be down to CW's demands
It's true, it could be. But given recent history and everything that we have learned from former players, managers and other staff that have worked under this regime, it is relatively safe to assume that the problem is something to do with Roland refusing to give the manager control of his playing squad. We don't know for sure but it would be a big departure for Roland if this wasn't the case.
And if that turns out to be the case then fair enough
Like any manager Wilder would have been a punt but I'll admit it didn't fill me with excitement, I think the only reason some did feel that way was because it wasn't another from the network. We also don't know the actual reason it broke down so I will wait to see who actually is appointed before criticising.
Thought I couldn't like this omnishambles of an ownership less. How wrong I was. As soon as it looks like they might be doing something vaguely sensible they feck it up AGAIN.
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It's more likely they club are using it to force Wilmotts's hand surely....
Given what Rich Cawley and Large have said, I think it's clear they genuinely wanted CW. I'm genuinely curious to know how many not on here or on Twitter had even heard of him. If you were going for a publicity stunt, why go with Chris Wilder?
They've gone in at 8/1 and 16/1 respectively.
Edit: that's on the SkyBet market https://www.skybet.com/football/specials/manager-specials
" I don't regard a 3 -way conference call with an owner in a Belgian wine cellar and a CEO in her Dubai hotel's spa while I'm sat in the valley Caff as serious grounds for negotiation"
I don't trust the OS.
Could be a multitude of reasons, and some could be down to CW's demands
Top o' the morning to you Sir or as you say I think - Huh!.
My name is General Goodbody MacGoodFace and I hear that you are looking for a manager for your football club in that wonderful London home of our great Queen and the Harry brothers.
You are in luck Lord Duchalet!
My Great Aunt Betilda has just joined the Upstairs Singing Choir and she has left to me several millions of unused football managers which unfortunately are stuck here in Nigeria.
Please send to me Lord Duchalet your bank details so that you can share in my good fortune and I will in return send to your village in London many thousands of my managers who will embrace you and your kin and the one called Liar and they will make good soccer for you.
Your humble servant and great friend of fraternal football global
General Goodbody MacGoodface
1) I demand the owner attends one game a month
And that folks is why we'll never get anyone other than some useless foreign network no hoper as long as RD is in charge. Absolute shambles.
I hope CARD have more protests planned.
Get it in writing.
He WILL be our next manager, 200%.
They don't do failure though, they are failure