If anything should be boycotted the FF should. Nothing in it for fans but it gives a PR plus to the club.
But then the response to the media would be "the fans refused to engage with us"
"We refused to go because we are sick of the lies and being treated like idiots."
Would be my response.
But the press won't phone you up.
At the moment the publicity is almost entirely in our favour, why give the club a mitigation ? We'll know they're lying but the impartial casual observer will probably think "they're both as bad as each other".
@rikofold and others should continue to attend things like the FF if they can, it's just giving the club more rope.
If anything should be boycotted the FF should. Nothing in it for fans but it gives a PR plus to the club.
But then the response to the media would be "the fans refused to engage with us"
"We refused to go because we are sick of the lies and being treated like idiots."
Would be my response.
But the press won't phone you up.
At the moment the publicity is almost entirely in our favour, why give the club a mitigation ? We'll know they're lying but the impartial casual observer will probably think "they're both as bad as each other".
@rikofold and others should continue to attend things like the FF if they can, it's just giving the club more rope.
This 100%
We must continue to show that we are better then them.
They have failed to realise that we will not roll over and we have a rich history in fighting for this club.
They have bought the wrong club but have yet to realise that.
Did we get fans weeping all over the floor about how theyve supported the club for 50 years and feel disconnected instead of asking piercing questions like last time?
If anything should be boycotted the FF should. Nothing in it for fans but it gives a PR plus to the club.
But then the response to the media would be "the fans refused to engage with us"
"We refused to go because we are sick of the lies and being treated like idiots."
Would be my response.
But the press won't phone you up.
At the moment the publicity is almost entirely in our favour, why give the club a mitigation ? We'll know they're lying but the impartial casual observer will probably think "they're both as bad as each other".
@rikofold and others should continue to attend things like the FF if they can, it's just giving the club more rope.
Fair points but there is another way of thinking.
I would much rather "Charlton fans boycott fans forum due to constant lies from the club"
Than
"Charton fans go to meeting so club won't have ammunition"
With the inception of CARD i took that as a declaration of war. A point where the opportunity of dialogue and change had passed. A point where we just want these idiots out.
Going to a fans forum and listening to more lies also gives the club a chance to say "why would they come here to be lied to?".
These lot are universally it seems to be known as liars. Why you would want to go and drink coffee and have a civil chat with them is beyond me.
They are destroying the club with everyday that passes it seems, we have heard of generations of fans i.e Grandparents, parents and children not going anymore after decades of support.
Its gone beyond a media spin war now its about survival and letting them know we want nothing to do with them.
If people can stomach being in the same room as them then i respect that and their choices to attend.
For me its war, i hate them. I couldn't be in the same room as them as they spout lie after lie and turning up and being soft on them gives them more reason to believe they can win us back.
"Although not physically present in London, Roland Duchâtelet is passionate about improving Charlton. He watches all of our games on a live stream wherever he is."
bangs on about 'communication' and 'dialogue' but we have seen very little of either
Exactly. Empty words. They have been expressing their commitment to improving communication with supporters for about 3 months, that's the only communication that we've had from them though.
Four pages of bullshit. Countless lies, and they still seem under the impression they can win these lost fans back. For me and many other it's way too late for that.
They have now created a situation where any words they say are viewed as hollow or with an angle, and quite simply, that they can't be trusted and taken at face value.
Unfortunately, they have created this mess all by themselves, and no matter how hard they 'work hard' to improve communication, it will prove a fruitless exercise because too many people have no interest in hearing it.
As usual, its more about what they don't say than what they do say:-
"his investment has also ensured that Charlton is currently free of any bank debt."
So, is it investment or are actually Charlton up to their eyeballs in Staprix debt?
I am sure that we will ... in due course ... find this is true ... dealing with RD is far from straightforward, but one thing is for sure, he doesn't seem to lose money very often ... it's others that suffer.
As usual, its more about what they don't say than what they do say:-
"his investment has also ensured that Charlton is currently free of any bank debt."
So, is it investment or are actually Charlton up to their eyeballs in Staprix debt?
The club would likely have been free of bank debt at this stage under any owner because the mortgage was due to be paid up and the bank was unlikely to lend any more. Meaningless.
As usual, its more about what they don't say than what they do say:-
"his investment has also ensured that Charlton is currently free of any bank debt."
So, is it investment or are actually Charlton up to their eyeballs in Staprix debt?
The club would likely have been free of bank debt at this stage under any owner because the mortgage was due to be paid up and the bank was unlikely to lend any more. Meaningless.
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Would be my response.
At the moment the publicity is almost entirely in our favour, why give the club a mitigation ? We'll know they're lying but the impartial casual observer will probably think "they're both as bad as each other".
@rikofold and others should continue to attend things like the FF if they can, it's just giving the club more rope.
We must continue to show that we are better then them.
They have failed to realise that we will not roll over and we have a rich history in fighting for this club.
They have bought the wrong club but have yet to realise that.
I would much rather "Charlton fans boycott fans forum due to constant lies from the club"
Than
"Charton fans go to meeting so club won't have ammunition"
With the inception of CARD i took that as a declaration of war. A point where the opportunity of dialogue and change had passed. A point where we just want these idiots out.
Going to a fans forum and listening to more lies also gives the club a chance to say "why would they come here to be lied to?".
These lot are universally it seems to be known as liars. Why you would want to go and drink coffee and have a civil chat with them is beyond me.
They are destroying the club with everyday that passes it seems, we have heard of generations of fans i.e Grandparents, parents and children not going anymore after decades of support.
Its gone beyond a media spin war now its about survival and letting them know we want nothing to do with them.
If people can stomach being in the same room as them then i respect that and their choices to attend.
For me its war, i hate them. I couldn't be in the same room as them as they spout lie after lie and turning up and being soft on them gives them more reason to believe they can win us back.
They can't. It's too late.
Sone interesting comments in the "Issues" document.
With the exception of Jose Riga’s departure in the summer of 2014, the on-pitch performances of our head coaches have been below expectations.
Yet a few weeks ago, KM was saying that they have all been beneficial ... pitiful, she is contradicting herself yet again
"his investment has also ensured that Charlton is currently free of any bank debt."
So, is it investment or are actually Charlton up to their eyeballs in Staprix debt?
Unfortunately, they have created this mess all by themselves, and no matter how hard they 'work hard' to improve communication, it will prove a fruitless exercise because too many people have no interest in hearing it.
That interim PR bouncer is earning his money.
What are they going to do when he leaves at the end of the month.
Well, he needed to make up for the previous cock-ups he was responsible for!!
He told her to shut her mouth as she only put her foot in it everytime she opened it.
But she won't be able to resist another foreign journalist or conference speech somewhere.
The problem is we as a fan base are generally ware of this now and can see right through it.
I like the way no one has put there name to it.