We have some decent players but the squad is too light. There is usually some sort of issue the club has cocked up and it isn't always the same. We have Tony Watt playing well for Cardiff, we are short in midfield and need a decent centre half. And above all we need a decent manager. Fraeye's limitations are costing us too. Bring in somebody who knows what he is doing, knows the league and support them and see what happens.
We are in a worse position than when RD took us over and fans were praising him for saving our club. We had Kermorgant, we had Morrison, we had a well experienced (more so in playing, but in England) MANAGER, we had a shit pitch and we had knackered seats.. But boy oh boy was that the Charlton we knew before he took over and started slowly working his wicked magic.
He is NOT the only owner who would have stopped us from going under (ludicrous statement from those who still believe that), and he is not to be thanked for anything he does; he does what he needs and take's away a lot more. He's stripping our club to it's bare bones and we're not far from a HUGE step backwards into League One, a very hard League to get out of unless you have the strongest and perfectly mixed squad with a coach they all will give 100% for.
I don't want him to go, but I'm desperate for him to change his approach. For such a clever businessman is amazing how he thinks this is working.</blockquote
Because his aim is profit from player sales. Only a large financial offer of a buyout or a timely heart attack will stop him. Only weak link is possibly his feelings for Miere.
I agree that any action the fans take from here on has to be tougher than what it has been to date. So far people have been too scared to say something that might offend, or having a go at a bloke asking questions on a train or want to send her flowers FFS.
Sack off this 'we want constructive dialogue' bullshit as well. All this corporate talk at Q&A sessions and throwing them easy questions.
I couldn't give a toss about communication. I go to watch my football team and ideally not have my intelligence insulted at the same time.
I agree that any action the fans take from here on has to be tougher than what it has been to date. So far people have been too scared to say something that might offend, or having a go at a bloke asking questions on a train or want to send her flowers FFS.
Sack off this 'we want constructive dialogue' bullshit as well. All this corporate talk at Q&A sessions and throwing them easy questions.
I couldn't give a toss about communication. I go to watch my football team and ideally not have my intelligence insulted at the same time.
Brilliant post, we need to go down the Standard Liege route of aggression, whilst obviously not over stepping the mark. Sadly you can get away with more in Europe with regards to football so it's hard to see how far we could actually go.
We have to really target her. No idiots sending her flowers - yes idiots! If we get her out we will annoy the fool ducahetelet. We need to annoy him, dig at him, do what we can. We need to do it for the future of our great club. As far as I am concerned, people have gone easier on her because she is a woman. And she has hid behind that fact. The gloves need to come off and we all need to go for her until she leaves in disgrace.
I agree that any action the fans take from here on has to be tougher than what it has been to date. So far people have been too scared to say something that might offend, or having a go at a bloke asking questions on a train or want to send her flowers FFS.
Sack off this 'we want constructive dialogue' bullshit as well. All this corporate talk at Q&A sessions and throwing them easy questions.
I couldn't give a toss about communication. I go to watch my football team and ideally not have my intelligence insulted at the same time.
Brilliant post, we need to go down the Standard Liege route of aggression, whilst obviously not over stepping the mark. Sadly you can get away with more in Europe with regards to football so it's hard to see how far we could actually go.
I agree with this. They are laughing at our A4 posters and black & white scarves. Direct action is required. Financial pain and embarrassment should be the minimum.
I agree that any action the fans take from here on has to be tougher than what it has been to date. So far people have been too scared to say something that might offend, or having a go at a bloke asking questions on a train or want to send her flowers FFS.
Sack off this 'we want constructive dialogue' bullshit as well. All this corporate talk at Q&A sessions and throwing them easy questions.
I couldn't give a toss about communication. I go to watch my football team and ideally not have my intelligence insulted at the same time.
Brilliant post, we need to go down the Standard Liege route of aggression, whilst obviously not over stepping the mark. Sadly you can get away with more in Europe with regards to football so it's hard to see how far we could actually go.
I agree with this. They are laughing at our A4 posters and black & white scarves. Direct action is required. Financial pain and embarrassment should be the minimum.
Sad to say, I think you're right. Dialogue all you want, they won't listen. Protest all you like, they laugh it off. We need to conduct economic warfare on them. They only care about their pitifully small budget and the bottom line. This is where we have to attack them.
One big question that so far not one person can answer ... WHO GOING TO BUY
Last time no one touched us with a barge pole only RD who saved us fact .... I don't see anyone with the sort of money we are going to need to survive in the championship next season with the new sky deal making promotion to the Premership impossible for clubs like us coming forward ???
I don't want him to go, but I'm desperate for him to change his approach. For such a clever businessman is amazing how he thinks this is working.
His idea of 'this is working' is us putting young players in the team so that he can make profits from sales - not winning matches.
He has had FOUR chances to do this the right way after wrongly sacking Chris Powell. Nothing is changing.
Wrongly sacking Powell , grow up
Powell would have made a better fist of it than any of the others (barring Riga perhaps). At least Powell wouldn't have been a puppet and just another cog in the wheel. He would have had the clubs best interests at heart. We would have at least had a bloke with knowledge of the English game and somebody who had the respect of the players and fans. Most importantly, we would have had the charlton connection there. We have nothing now, other than a sinking ship, being captained by an absolute clown.
And besides, I'd rather be relegated with Powell in charge than some 2 bob numpty that Roly brings in.
One big question that so far not one person can answer ... WHO GOING TO BUY
Last time no one touched us with a barge pole only RD who saved us fact .... I don't see anyone with the sort of money we are going to need to survive in the championship next season with the new sky deal making promotion to the Premership impossible for clubs like us coming forward ???
Absolute drivel. A solid bid was made last summer for one as widely repeated on here. You are a complete and utter fraud. Shut up please.
Colin will be happy when him and Seb are the only two fans in the ground. He thinks he is the real fan such is his delusion. This is the time where we have to save our club. i fear for what will be left when RD walks away. Probably with as much transfer money as he can take with him
I agree that any action the fans take from here on has to be tougher than what it has been to date. So far people have been too scared to say something that might offend, or having a go at a bloke asking questions on a train or want to send her flowers FFS.
Sack off this 'we want constructive dialogue' bullshit as well. All this corporate talk at Q&A sessions and throwing them easy questions.
I couldn't give a toss about communication. I go to watch my football team and ideally not have my intelligence insulted at the same time.
Brilliant post, we need to go down the Standard Liege route of aggression, whilst obviously not over stepping the mark. Sadly you can get away with more in Europe with regards to football so it's hard to see how far we could actually go.
I agree with this. They are laughing at our A4 posters and black & white scarves. Direct action is required. Financial pain and embarrassment should be the minimum.
Sad to say, I think you're right. Dialogue all you want, they won't listen. Protest all you like, they laugh it off. We need to conduct economic warfare on them. They only care about their pitifully small budget and the bottom line. This is where we have to attack them.
Correct. Lets start a Don't renew, don't donate (tickets/merchandise/catering). Away games only.
I don't want him to go, but I'm desperate for him to change his approach. For such a clever businessman is amazing how he thinks this is working.
His idea of 'this is working' is us putting young players in the team so that he can make profits from sales - not winning matches.
He has had FOUR chances to do this the right way after wrongly sacking Chris Powell. Nothing is changing.
Wrongly sacking Powell , grow up
Colin, had he backed Powell properly and he had not improved things then I think most people would have agreed it was the right decision. CP wasn't sacked because of his results, but because Roland actually wanted someone else in the role. If it were a "normal" job he would probably get a constructive dismissal claim upheld against Roland.
The only Manager sorry Head Coach who has had any real form after CP was Riga - and Roland chose not to appoint him and instead grabbed Bob Peeters and we know where that ended up.
The possibility that Roland possesses even a shred of business intelligence is utterly facile.
One big question that so far not one person can answer ... WHO GOING TO BUY
Last time no one touched us with a barge pole only RD who saved us fact .... I don't see anyone with the sort of money we are going to need to survive in the championship next season with the new sky deal making promotion to the Premership impossible for clubs like us coming forward ???
Saved us? Rubbish. - it's seems to me all he has done is pile more misery on the club. If he hadn't have come in, at worst we would have had administration and maybe a year or 2 in league 1. I'd take that over what's going on now. I'd rather league 1 football and a club that we recognise than championship and a club that is rudderless from top to bottom and being run by these muppets.
unfortunately we are going to get league 1 football next season and still be stuck with the muppets.
We have to really target her. No idiots sending her flowers - yes idiots! If we get her out we will annoy the fool ducahetelet. We need to annoy him, dig at him, do what we can. We need to do it for the future of our great club. As far as I am concerned, people have gone easier on her because she is a woman. And she has hid behind that fact. The gloves need to come off and we all need to go for her until she leaves in disgrace.
I agree that any action the fans take from here on has to be tougher than what it has been to date. So far people have been too scared to say something that might offend, or having a go at a bloke asking questions on a train or want to send her flowers FFS.
Sack off this 'we want constructive dialogue' bullshit as well. All this corporate talk at Q&A sessions and throwing them easy questions.
I couldn't give a toss about communication. I go to watch my football team and ideally not have my intelligence insulted at the same time.
Brilliant post, we need to go down the Standard Liege route of aggression, whilst obviously not over stepping the mark. Sadly you can get away with more in Europe with regards to football so it's hard to see how far we could actually go.
I agree with this. They are laughing at our A4 posters and black & white scarves. Direct action is required. Financial pain and embarrassment should be the minimum.
Sad to say, I think you're right. Dialogue all you want, they won't listen. Protest all you like, they laugh it off. We need to conduct economic warfare on them. They only care about their pitifully small budget and the bottom line. This is where we have to attack them.
Correct. Lets start a Don't renew, don't donate (tickets/merchandise/catering). Away games only.
I know this a bit different from the Brighton situation when they were nomads and then playing at the Withdean but their away allocations were nearly always sold out, perhaps @oohaahmortimer could confirm this with some stats.
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He is NOT the only owner who would have stopped us from going under (ludicrous statement from those who still believe that), and he is not to be thanked for anything he does; he does what he needs and take's away a lot more. He's stripping our club to it's bare bones and we're not far from a HUGE step backwards into League One, a very hard League to get out of unless you have the strongest and perfectly mixed squad with a coach they all will give 100% for.
He has had FOUR chances to do this the right way after wrongly sacking Chris Powell. Nothing is changing.
Sack off this 'we want constructive dialogue' bullshit as well. All this corporate talk at Q&A sessions and throwing them easy questions.
I couldn't give a toss about communication. I go to watch my football team and ideally not have my intelligence insulted at the same time.
we wont need to worry about that
And besides, I'd rather be relegated with Powell in charge than some 2 bob numpty that Roly brings in.
The only
Managersorry Head Coach who has had any real form after CP was Riga - and Roland chose not to appoint him and instead grabbed Bob Peeters and we know where that ended up.The possibility that Roland possesses even a shred of business intelligence is utterly facile.
As yet, no reply.
unfortunately we are going to get league 1 football next season and still be stuck with the muppets.