Tbh, tbf, Karel is actually right, spot on and knocked the nail firmly on the end. With today's sacking culture getting more and more like on the mainland continent and getting worse on the mailand continent even the contract states "Manager" or in more and more cases "Head Coach" they are virtually like "Interim Manager" or "Interim Head Coach" seeing how short their stay is at a club these days. There is less and less stability each season that goes by not just at Charlton but across the board as well. If a "Manager" or "Head Coach" lasts more than a year these days they can virtually be described as a long serving "Manager" or "Head Coach". So Karel's comments are certainly not that stupid at all. He and every other "Manager" and "Head Coach" be it "Interim" or not can only take it one match and one day at a time.
But talking about the term "Head Coach"; I don't reckon the late and great, Brian Clough, would have taken too kindly to be described as a "Head Coach". He would have said... "I'm "Manager" Sunshine, NOT a "Head Coach", So you get your facts right Sunshine!" I could picture him and hear him saying that while wearing his trademark green sweater.
All true - but when he was announced as 'interim' head coach that wasn't some sort of philosophical musing on the temporary nature of all things - particularly football managers/coaches - but a deliberate attempt to create the impression that his appointment was a short term 'stop-gap' while they were looking for someone better....
Don't want him as manager (interim, full-time or pay-as-you-go) and it's absurd he was ever appointed to any serious job at the club ... BUT this comment is actually fair enough in that he said what we all know. Any manager - any, just look at Mourinho at the moment - is only as good as their last 5-10 results - and in that regard a contract means little either way.
What he really meant was, I know i am shit, you know I am shit, the players know I am shit, the only people that don't know I am shit is the owner and his puppets at the club, I will be lucky to last to Christmas.
Why are you all giving Karel stick? Every manager is a stop gap nowadays. Or are you expecting a british manager to come in and stay for 15 years because it aint happening.
Why are you all giving Karel stick? Every manager is a stop gap nowadays. Or are you expecting a british manager to come in and stay for 15 years because it aint happening.
Because it is yet another sham appointment. Not demanding a British manager but would expect them to consider appointing someone outside the network of incompetence.
We are third from bottom starting at relegation and going backwards on the pitch compared to when these chumps took over.
What has Fraeye done to warrant his appointment? Nothing. He is just part of this weird, weird network as part of a weird, weird experiment being conducted by an utter weirdo and his band of merry men. Murray and many fans might be sold on it but it is a shambles. Yes we'll get a new manager bounce and pick up the odd run of wins but it's papering over the cracks.
His last team was 12th in the Belgian pub league. Uninspiring and we are going nowhere with this management strategy and current recruitment strategy
I have nothing against K D Lang himself personally just the whole naivety/ arrogance of what is being played out at our club by RD and enforced and endorsed by his puppets KM and Murray. They can spout as much spin and platitudes as they want and arrange as many irrelevant meetings with an (unfortunately ) increasingly irrelevant Trust to attempt to keep the boo boys at bay but until the strategy is changed to improve the state of the club on the playing side they will get stick because they are taking the club backwards football wise from even when the previous jokers were here. And to me we are a football club first and foremost.
Why are you all giving Karel stick? Every manager is a stop gap nowadays. Or are you expecting a british manager to come in and stay for 15 years because it aint happening.
Because it is yet another sham appointment. Not demanding a British manager but would expect them to consider appointing someone outside the network of incompetence.
We are third from bottom starting at relegation and going backwards on the pitch compared to when these chumps took over.
What has Fraeye done to warrant his appointment? Nothing. He is just part of this weird, weird network as part of a weird, weird experiment being conducted by an utter weirdo and his band of merry men. Murray and many fans might be sold on it but it is a shambles. Yes we'll get a new manager bounce and pick up the odd run of wins but it's papering over the cracks.
His last team was 12th in the Belgian pub league. Uninspiring and we are going nowhere with this management strategy and current recruitment strategy
I have nothing against K D Lang himself personally just the whole naivety/ arrogance of what is being played out at our club by RD and enforced and endorsed by his puppets KM and Murray. They can spout as much spin and platitudes as they want and arrange as many irrelevant meetings with an (unfortunately ) increasingly irrelevant Trust to attempt to keep the boo boys at bay but until the strategy is changed to improve the state of the club on the playing side they will get stick because they are taking the club backwards football wise from even when the previous jokers were here. And to me we are a football club first and foremost.
Why are you all giving Karel stick? Every manager is a stop gap nowadays. Or are you expecting a british manager to come in and stay for 15 years because it aint happening.
Because it is yet another sham appointment. Not demanding a British manager but would expect them to consider appointing someone outside the network of incompetence.
We are third from bottom starting at relegation and going backwards on the pitch compared to when these chumps took over.
What has Fraeye done to warrant his appointment? Nothing. He is just part of this weird, weird network as part of a weird, weird experiment being conducted by an utter weirdo and his band of merry men. Murray and many fans might be sold on it but it is a shambles. Yes we'll get a new manager bounce and pick up the odd run of wins but it's papering over the cracks.
His last team was 12th in the Belgian pub league. Uninspiring and we are going nowhere with this management strategy and current recruitment strategy
I have nothing against K D Lang himself personally just the whole naivety/ arrogance of what is being played out at our club by RD and enforced and endorsed by his puppets KM and Murray. They can spout as much spin and platitudes as they want and arrange as many irrelevant meetings with an (unfortunately ) increasingly irrelevant Trust to attempt to keep the boo boys at bay but until the strategy is changed to improve the state of the club on the playing side they will get stick because they are taking the club backwards football wise from even when the previous jokers were here. And to me we are a football club first and foremost.
Why are you all giving Karel stick? Every manager is a stop gap nowadays. Or are you expecting a british manager to come in and stay for 15 years because it aint happening.
Because it is yet another sham appointment. Not demanding a British manager but would expect them to consider appointing someone outside the network of incompetence.
We are third from bottom starting at relegation and going backwards on the pitch compared to when these chumps took over.
What has Fraeye done to warrant his appointment? Nothing. He is just part of this weird, weird network as part of a weird, weird experiment being conducted by an utter weirdo and his band of merry men. Murray and many fans might be sold on it but it is a shambles. Yes we'll get a new manager bounce and pick up the odd run of wins but it's papering over the cracks.
His last team was 12th in the Belgian pub league. Uninspiring and we are going nowhere with this management strategy and current recruitment strategy
I have nothing against K D Lang himself personally just the whole naivety/ arrogance of what is being played out at our club by RD and enforced and endorsed by his puppets KM and Murray. They can spout as much spin and platitudes as they want and arrange as many irrelevant meetings with an (unfortunately ) increasingly irrelevant Trust to attempt to keep the boo boys at bay but until the strategy is changed to improve the state of the club on the playing side they will get stick because they are taking the club backwards football wise from even when the previous jokers were here. And to me we are a football club first and foremost.
100% this, I do hope I'm wrong but feel the trust is being used by the club,RM in particular, as a way to stop the protests getting any louder. He seems to be using some of his old network of mates to try and win us over. Just my honest oplnlon.
Why are you all giving Karel stick? Every manager is a stop gap nowadays. Or are you expecting a british manager to come in and stay for 15 years because it aint happening.
Because it is yet another sham appointment. Not demanding a British manager but would expect them to consider appointing someone outside the network of incompetence.
We are third from bottom starting at relegation and going backwards on the pitch compared to when these chumps took over.
What has Fraeye done to warrant his appointment? Nothing. He is just part of this weird, weird network as part of a weird, weird experiment being conducted by an utter weirdo and his band of merry men. Murray and many fans might be sold on it but it is a shambles. Yes we'll get a new manager bounce and pick up the odd run of wins but it's papering over the cracks.
His last team was 12th in the Belgian pub league. Uninspiring and we are going nowhere with this management strategy and current recruitment strategy
I have nothing against K D Lang himself personally just the whole naivety/ arrogance of what is being played out at our club by RD and enforced and endorsed by his puppets KM and Murray. They can spout as much spin and platitudes as they want and arrange as many irrelevant meetings with an (unfortunately ) increasingly irrelevant Trust to attempt to keep the boo boys at bay but until the strategy is changed to improve the state of the club on the playing side they will get stick because they are taking the club backwards football wise from even when the previous jokers were here. And to me we are a football club first and foremost.
Correct.......... I'm entering complete delusion... I ma pretending that there is no experiment and Jason Euell is in charge... They have splintered the support with an entirely crap strategy of "farming players" get them in cheap because they are a bit broken and hope they go up in value... get some youth in through enough shit at the wall and hope some sticks to sell on, hope to avoid relegation...
and we are supposed to be happy... F*** OFF!
I feel like Brando in the On the waterfront ... "I could have been a contender... I could have had claaaasss"
Who would be a good manager then? Hands up those who thought Pardew was a good appointment? and Dowie? Curbs and Gritt era most thought Gritt should of been kept on in sole charge didnt they! Personally i have a feeling Karel will be a success so am willing to give the man a chance without jumping on him because he says something taken a a touch of context. Bash Roland not the manager you dimwits.
Who would be a good manager then? Hands up those who thought Pardew was a good appointment? and Dowie? Curbs and Gritt era most thought Gritt should of been kept on in sole charge didnt they! Personally i have a feeling Karel will be a success so am willing to give the man a chance without jumping on him because he says something taken a a touch of context. Bash Roland not the manager you dimwits.
It's difficult to question the credentials of the people that brought us five managers in two year isn't it! Also, clearly the Belgian ninth division ( or whatever ) is the ideal proving ground for managing a struggling English Championship club.
KF may still come good, our own Sir Alex Ferguson (on a sofa), but you can't blame us "dimwits" for being underwhelmed!
On top of everything else, once again we have been deliberately lied to by our inspirational CEO. There is no recruitment process and never was.
Karel Fraeye has all the ingredients to be a success short term, he knows the squad, he knows the opposition and the people on a day to day basis thanks to Roland giving him heads up he'd get the job in the future. But anything further than short term he won't succeed. The same roundabout will keep happening and it's embarrassing to feel part of, Karel Fraeye has nothing to lose, we as Charlton fans have a hell of a lot of pride to lose if we drop back down into L1, especially as the owner brags about keeping us in that league (despite being favourites to stay up before he came anyway).
Results help of course but i actually like Karel have a good feeling he will be a success just as i did when he and Riga were last here and was extremely disappointed the latter was not given the job in the first place ( massive mistake by Roland ).
I missed the Sheffield Wed game and didn't go today. My question to those that saw both is. Do the players look like they are enjoying their football now. I always thought that the poor results were because they were not happy. The core of this squad is pretty decent. Much better than those very poor results suggested. Has anything changed ?
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But talking about the term "Head Coach"; I don't reckon the late and great, Brian Clough, would have taken too kindly to be described as a "Head Coach". He would have said... "I'm "Manager" Sunshine, NOT a "Head Coach", So you get your facts right Sunshine!" I could picture him and hear him saying that while wearing his trademark green sweater.
There are two types of football manager. Those that have been sacked and those that haven't been sacked yet!
I propose we lose every match under this nice but severely under qualified joker.
And then maybe the severely under qualified jokers running this club will realise they need to change tact.
Fraeye is the interim one,
Fraeye is the Interim one
we beat the Massive 3-1
Or are you expecting a british manager to come in and stay for 15 years because it aint happening.
We are third from bottom starting at relegation and going backwards on the pitch compared to when these chumps took over.
What has Fraeye done to warrant his appointment? Nothing. He is just part of this weird, weird network as part of a weird, weird experiment being conducted by an utter weirdo and his band of merry men. Murray and many fans might be sold on it but it is a shambles. Yes we'll get a new manager bounce and pick up the odd run of wins but it's papering over the cracks.
His last team was 12th in the Belgian pub league. Uninspiring and we are going nowhere with this management strategy and current recruitment strategy
I have nothing against K D Lang himself personally just the whole naivety/ arrogance of what is being played out at our club by RD and enforced and endorsed by his puppets KM and Murray. They can spout as much spin and platitudes as they want and arrange as many irrelevant meetings with an (unfortunately ) increasingly irrelevant Trust to attempt to keep the boo boys at bay but until the strategy is changed to improve the state of the club on the playing side they will get stick because they are taking the club backwards football wise from even when the previous jokers were here. And to me we are a football club first and foremost.
and we are supposed to be happy... F*** OFF!
I feel like Brando in the On the waterfront ... "I could have been a contender... I could have had claaaasss"
Hands up those who thought Pardew was a good appointment? and Dowie? Curbs and Gritt era most thought Gritt should of been kept on in sole charge didnt they!
Personally i have a feeling Karel will be a success so am willing to give the man a chance without jumping on him because he says something taken a a touch of context.
Bash Roland not the manager you dimwits.
KF may still come good, our own Sir Alex Ferguson (on a sofa), but you can't blame us
"dimwits" for being underwhelmed!
On top of everything else, once again we have been deliberately lied to by our inspirational CEO. There is no recruitment process and never was.