Karel Fraeye: "In football, every manager is an interim manager"

northdevonisred

More nonsense.

Words fail me.

Someone else have a go.

LoOkOuT

FFS

Callumcafc

"beyond parody"

IA

Callumcafc said:

"beyond parody"

Thanks Colin Callum

northdevonisred

This club is doing an outstanding job of acting as if it is on a higher plain of thinking than everyone else whilst it burns around them and fans contemplate flying off in their droves.

Is the owner stupid? No, not in an academical sense. Is he sensationally arrogant? Good god yes.

SE7toSG3

Interim owners, interim managers, permanent supporters

jamescafc

To be fair, and I'm one of the biggest critics of the current board, I think this comment is fairly accurate. Not many managers, especially on the contenant, survive more than 4-5 games without victory and sadly this type of attitude is creeping into the English game.

timken

Its also true that my wife has a big arse but I dont go on charlton life and tell everyone.oops

Garrymanilow

I said that a few weeks ago, but it was a joke. Troubling that our manager is actually saying it out loud

northdevonisred

jamescafc said:

To be fair, and I'm one of the biggest critics of the current board, I think this comment is fairly accurate. Not many managers, especially on the contenant, survive more than 4-5 games without victory and sadly this type of attitude is creeping into the English game.

Yes we all know the point he is trying to allure too, we're not stupid, but they aren't appointed with the view that they are definitely only there in the short-term whereas Fraeye is. This is more misdirection from the lawyer, come on let's have some self-respect and not fall for it please?

boggzy

I think 'beyond parody' is actually a brilliant statement for this latest bombshell.

Atletico Addick

Might go tell my bird she's an interim girlfriend, should all be fine when I tell her that every girlfriend is an interim girlfriend

tangoflash

alan dugdale

I would comment but I'd probably be accused of condemning the comments because (a) He's Belgian and (b) He's been employed by a female.

razil

What he means is he was already on the payroll

C4FC4L1f3

Karel Fraeye: "In THE NETWORK, every manager is an interim manager"

Fixed it for him!

Redrobo

Sorry, you are all wrong. All he meant is that no manager in the Championship ever gets to the end of his contract.

I am afraid that all your negativity is preventing you from interpreting the simplest of statements. You need to take a break from CL for a while.

Lincsaddick

I know exactly what he is getting at .. look at the average tenure longevity of a football club manager at most levels of the professional/semi professional game .. the difference perhaps between an 'interim' and 'permanent' manager is the amount paid in compensation when the incumbent is sacked

IA

Redrobo said:

Sorry, you are all wrong. All he meant is that no manager in the Championship ever gets to the end of his contract.

I am afraid that all your negativity is preventing you from interpreting the simplest of statements. You need to take a break from CL for a while.

Jose Riga got to the end of his contract

thai malaysia addick

As an interim supporter, I find this a really silly statement.

Bigbadbozman

"But some are more interim than others"

Addicted

Redrobo said:

Sorry, you are all wrong. All he meant is that no manager in the Championship ever gets to the end of his contract.

I am afraid that all your negativity is preventing you from interpreting the simplest of statements. You need to take a break from CL for a while.

Good managers do; then they get offered a new one.

All he meant was that despite the title of 'interim' he was actually appointed as manager in all but name without others being interviewed or considered. And due to him being present before Luzon was gone it shows there was crossover.

All he's doing is redefining his job title.

ForeverAddickted

Addicted said:

Redrobo said:

Sorry, you are all wrong. All he meant is that no manager in the Championship ever gets to the end of his contract.

I am afraid that all your negativity is preventing you from interpreting the simplest of statements. You need to take a break from CL for a while.

Good managers do; then they get offered a new one.

All he meant was that despite the title of 'interim' he was actually appointed as manager in all but name without others being interviewed or considered. And due to him being present before Luzon was gone it shows there was crossover.

All he's doing is redefining his job title.

And then when they fail they get sacked from that Contract... No Manager these days (Bar Riga who was only short-term anyway) will have their owner turn around in October and say; right I'm sacking you, that means that when your Contract is up in two years your gone.

Hell even Curbishley didnt get to see out the last year of his Contract with us!!

RodneyCharltonTrotta

If this bloke is so good why wasn't he given the gig after Riga? Or even after peeters.

It's not as if in that time he's been off gaining worthy championship experience and his record in the belgian vauxhall conference is hardly stellar.

Roland Deutchatelet is clueless when it comes to appointing managers. This is a bullshit appointment of someone lower in the pecking order than Riga, Peeters and Luzon and a complete insult to this football club and regardless of how much bollocks like this is spouted it won't change that.

Fucking ludicrous and for the likes of Richard Murray to sit there last week defending the managerial appointment talking about RD trusting them is an insult to the intelligence of Charlton fans.

I will bump this after he has been jogged on.

Addicted

ForeverAddickted said:

Addicted said:

Redrobo said:

Sorry, you are all wrong. All he meant is that no manager in the Championship ever gets to the end of his contract.

I am afraid that all your negativity is preventing you from interpreting the simplest of statements. You need to take a break from CL for a while.

Good managers do; then they get offered a new one.

All he meant was that despite the title of 'interim' he was actually appointed as manager in all but name without others being interviewed or considered. And due to him being present before Luzon was gone it shows there was crossover.

All he's doing is redefining his job title.

And then when they fail they get sacked from that Contract... No Manager these days (Bar Riga who was only short-term anyway) will have their owner turn around in October and say; right I'm sacking you, that means that when your Contract is up in two years your gone.

Hell even Curbishley didnt get to see out the last year of his Contract with us!!

And do you think

a) KF is making the point above about football mangers in general and lamenting the fact that contracts dont get seen out in full

b) KF is discussing his own position and job title in reference to the fact he was appointed interim manager without a second thought to other candidates above belgian 3rd tier, and now is redefining that position as 'as permanent as any other manger in this league'

ForeverAddickted

Addicted said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Addicted said:

Redrobo said:

Sorry, you are all wrong. All he meant is that no manager in the Championship ever gets to the end of his contract.

I am afraid that all your negativity is preventing you from interpreting the simplest of statements. You need to take a break from CL for a while.

Good managers do; then they get offered a new one.

All he meant was that despite the title of 'interim' he was actually appointed as manager in all but name without others being interviewed or considered. And due to him being present before Luzon was gone it shows there was crossover.

All he's doing is redefining his job title.

And then when they fail they get sacked from that Contract... No Manager these days (Bar Riga who was only short-term anyway) will have their owner turn around in October and say; right I'm sacking you, that means that when your Contract is up in two years your gone.

Hell even Curbishley didnt get to see out the last year of his Contract with us!!

And do you think

a) KF is making the point above about football mangers in general and lamenting the fact that contracts dont get seen out in full

b) KF is discussing his own position and job title in reference to the fact he was appointed interim manager without a second thought to other candidates above belgian 3rd tier, and now is redefining that position as 'as permanent as any other manger in this league'

Dunno... Don't waste my time micro-analysing everything that someone says

charltonkeston

He's got that spot on but he could turn out a little less interim than he may think.
On the other hand he might be more interim than we all think. Utter nonsense and it seems not a week gos

Henry Irving

Personally I think the journalist has asked a question along the lines of "You're the interim manager/coach, what does that mean?" and he's batted if off with quite a clever answer.

LouisMend

Henry Irving said:

Personally I think the journalist has asked a question along the lines of "You're the interim manager/coach, what does that mean?" and he's batted if off with quite a clever answer.

Wonder no more, press day audio is in this week's Charlton live podcast.
http://bit.ly/1JtESM1

soapboxsam

At most championship clubs, Karel Fraeye would have made the shortlist
for the U11's but not certain if he would have got the job ?

He is correct in his Statement that all coaches/managers are interim and for that reason i would also say that was a good retort.

AddickFC81

Tbh, tbf, Karel is actually right, spot on and knocked the nail firmly on the end. With today's sacking culture getting more and more like on the mainland continent and getting worse on the mailand continent even the contract states "Manager" or in more and more cases "Head Coach" they are virtually like "Interim Manager" or "Interim Head Coach" seeing how short their stay is at a club these days. There is less and less stability each season that goes by not just at Charlton but across the board as well. If a "Manager" or "Head Coach" lasts more than a year these days they can virtually be described as a long serving "Manager" or "Head Coach". So Karel's comments are certainly not that stupid at all. He and every other "Manager" and "Head Coach" be it "Interim" or not can only take it one match and one day at a time.

But talking about the term "Head Coach"; I don't reckon the late and great, Brian Clough, would have taken too kindly to be described as a "Head Coach". He would have said... "I'm "Manager" Sunshine, NOT a "Head Coach", So you get your facts right Sunshine!" I could picture him and hear him saying that while wearing his trademark green sweater.