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Supporters trust meet with KM and RM

http://www.castrust.org/2015/11/supporters-trust-meet-with-club-executives/

"Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.

The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.

After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:

- Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.

- A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.

- Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.

The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.

We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way."
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  • edited November 2015
    In The Trust we trust

    Edit....but can the cynics not join any of the groups pls
  • http://www.castrust.org/2015/11/supporters-trust-meet-with-club-executives/

    "Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.

    The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.

    After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:

    - Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.

    - A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.

    - Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.

    The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.

    We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way."

    But will Meire draw on the experience of Airman? I think not.
  • Again the club can't. If they ignore the trust they are wrong, now they want to involve the trust and that is also wrong.
  • kentred2 said:

    You are joking. What a sell out. The Trust just after personal involvement. Why build the club for them. Amazing. Disgrace.

    What does "why build the club for them" mean ?
  • PL54 said:

    kentred2 said:

    You are joking. What a sell out. The Trust just after personal involvement. Why build the club for them. Amazing. Disgrace.

    What does "why build the club for them" mean ?
    Helping them increase the attendances etc whilst they pursue their non football goals.
  • edited November 2015
    doesn't the B&W campaign seek dialogue ?
  • http://www.castrust.org/2015/11/supporters-trust-meet-with-club-executives/

    "Following last week's fans' meeting, Steve Clarke has met with Richard Murray and Katrien Meire to discuss how the strategic objectives outlined that evening can be taken forward.

    The Club is keen to emphasise the progress being made behind these objectives and the Supporters' Trust recognises that and supports the concepts. However the current frustration of fans emphasises that this is just the beginning and there is a need for more demonstrable action.

    After some discussion between Richard, Katrien and Steve, the following ideas were outlined:

    - Target 20,000 - The group will look to draw on the extensive experience of those who have worked with the Club on a similar basis in the past together with seeking contributions from across our entire fan base in order to give the initiative the widest possible focus.

    - A group to look at strategic development, involving senior Club staff and fans - with the potential to bring in support from the wider Charlton community aiming to capture additional business acumen, specialist skills and fresh ideas.

    - Fans' Forum - examine the role the group should play in a revamped structure and how it can contribute to projects such as Target 20,000. Also to consider how the overall supporters experience can be improved, alongside addressing day to day issues as and when they occur.

    The Trust welcomes these developments and believes this signals valuable progress. But, we must not hide from the views of our members and many other supporters. The mood is that fans want change.

    We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way."

    But will Meire draw on the experience of Airman? I think not.
    Well I certainly hope so, because there are many fans/former employees that have some excellent knowledge and skill sets to help the club and 'Airman' in the past has offered his services, as I am sure quite a few people who would be prepared to do so, but as the message states"...... The mood is that fans want change'.

    'We think the above plan is a start. It now needs action and we are committed to engage in this process, making sure we communicate regularly along the way."
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  • What a surprise.

    And I was shouted down for daring to reveal that just such a meeting was scheduled before the Trust AGM.

    Great that the dialogue is taking place, great that target 20k is happening, shame that the fact that such a meeting had already been arranged had to be kept from not only trust members not at the AGM but those fans who attended the Q and A meeting week before last.

    It wasn't scheduled before the Trust AGM though...
  • When was it scheduled then?

    Why if it wasn't scheduled before the AGM did three people tell me that just such a meeting was talked about at the AGM?

    When were the others fans at the Q and A told about it?

  • Can someone explain what the target 20,000?

    Attendances are obviously falling, partly because of results and partly because of the way the club is being run, and the trust are now helping the club get more people through the gates?
  • Target 20k? Do me a favour.
  • Not going to get into a long one on this, but we have had a mandate from February to seek dialogue. That was affirmed by a recent survey and again at the Trust AGM. It's been a long game because, and it's no secret, the club weren't too keen. Now we've finally got a start to what we were asked to do, and I think we're perfectly placed to lead on this aspect. Others are better placed to lead on other types of action.

    I know people love a conspiracy theory, but really it's not more complicated than that.
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  • Surely target 20k is the least of our priorities now, there are a number of issues with the ownership and running it from the club that will prevent it from increasing attendances in the first place. These problems need to be sorted out first.

    Glad there is dialogue with the Trust but can't help but be cynical and feel they are being sucked in rather that trying to sort the problems that are causing disillusionment and apathy with supporters.
  • edited November 2015

    What a surprise.

    And I was shouted down for daring to reveal that just such a meeting was scheduled before the Trust AGM.

    Great that the dialogue is taking place, great that target 20k is happening, shame that the fact that such a meeting had already been arranged had to be kept from not only trust members not at the AGM but those fans who attended the Q and A meeting week before last.

    If this was indeed the meeting you made reference to leading up to the Q & A, which I believe was denied by certain individuals with a smokescreen about a catch up meeting that had already taken place but was not scheduled and was just tagged on to a VG meeting I believe, then for me the Trust has damaged their credibility, perhaps irreparably for me.

    If true it just smacks of self-interest and self-importance - damn the rest.

    I would add that I see this as a good thing, but the manner of communication by the Trust and the chronology (again, if true) concerns me greatly.
  • edited November 2015

    What a surprise.

    And I was shouted down for daring to reveal that just such a meeting was scheduled before the Trust AGM.

    Great that the dialogue is taking place, great that target 20k is happening, shame that the fact that such a meeting had already been arranged had to be kept from not only trust members not at the AGM but those fans who attended the Q and A meeting week before last.

    My concern is that we get paid lip service and how much is taken on board by Meire from the fans.

    We need to be sceptical and look to see if the Belgians work WITH US.

    The cynic in me says they will try to pacify us by making the right noises. I hope I'm wrong.
  • rikofold said:

    Not going to get into a long one on this, but we have had a mandate from February to seek dialogue. That was affirmed by a recent survey and again at the Trust AGM. It's been a long game because, and it's no secret, the club weren't too keen. Now we've finally got a start to what we were asked to do, and I think we're perfectly placed to lead on this aspect. Others are better placed to lead on other types of action.

    I know people love a conspiracy theory, but really it's not more complicated than that.

    So, reading between the lines, the campaigns go on until such time as tangible progress has been made ?
  • J BLOCK said:

    Target 20k? Do me a favour.

    Target 2k more like!
  • Good luck to the Trust getting 20000 through the Gate.
  • Well done and a bit of progress.

    As long as the trust and the board are COMPLETELY transparent about what is said at these meetings then I've got no problem about knowing exactly how they were arranged.
    Think some on here need to take a step back and chill a bit.
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