KM has certainly caused offence today but I'm not sure she intended to. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
It's a fact that smiling is as an innate sign of submission, it is saying I am not a threat to a person showing aggression.
. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
I watched the last q&a earlier with her and Murray. She laughs at nearly everything.
The Problem for her on Tuesday is that the natives are seriously pissed off and the 'silly school girl giggling in the corner' routine will really rub people up the wrong way.
KM has certainly caused offence today but I'm not sure she intended to. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
It's a fact that smiling is as an innate sign of submission, it is saying I am not a threat to a person showing aggression.
Personally I wouldn't make a big issue of it.
The smiling, as you say, is not the issue. Her abject performance since becoming CEO and her completely unsuitability to do the job is.
. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
I watched the last q&a earlier with her and Murray. She laughs at nearly everything.
The Problem for her on Tuesday is that the natives are seriously pissed off and the 'silly school girl giggling in the corner' routine will really rub people up the wrong way.
Step forward all Charlton fans who have never screwed up...
The future is what matters. Let's hope the meeting on Tuesday moves things forward.
KM is in no way experienced or qualified to run a football club - She must be massively over confident if she thinks that she is. I think that she has been cut a great deal of slack and shown a great deal of patience and had repeatedly shown herself to be way out of her depth. Most importantly her actions are shot through with arrogance and contempt and, like it or not, a ruthless streak. Very few people either respect or trust her.
Katrien time to go - By the way can you take your bogus posters with you when you leave?
. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
I watched the last q&a earlier with her and Murray. She laughs at nearly everything.
The Problem for her on Tuesday is that the natives are seriously pissed off and the 'silly school girl giggling in the corner' routine will really rub people up the wrong way.
I can see Tuesday not running smoothly.
That all comes down to the people invited to ask the right and relevant questions and the CEO and Murray to be ALLOWED to reply.
Step forward all Charlton fans who have never screwed up...
The future is what matters. Let's hope the meeting on Tuesday moves things forward.
I can categorically state that I have never put myself in a position where my customers were furious at me, demanding change and I did something that was widely seen as mocking them. I did once forget to use the milk up before its sell by date though, so maybe I don't get to comment on the way Charlton is run.
Katrien doesn't need a bloody white knight. She's an adult in a high powered, high pressure job and she's cocking it up. She's getting told that and she's doing nothing to arrest it. All these people popping up crying 'leave the lassie alone' aren't helping her or the club. But I bet it makes you feel great.
I personally felt uncomfortable with grown adults making wanker gestures toward her, giving her the finger and screaming that she was a fucking slut etc who should fuck off back to Belgium. No problem with the 'we want our club back', 'you don't know what you're doing' and the 'you're not fit to run our club' chants etc but such personal abuse? No sorry.
I also didn't feel she was laughing at us, certainly ill advised without a doubt to put herself in the firing line with tensions running high
. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
I watched the last q&a earlier with her and Murray. She laughs at nearly everything.
The Problem for her on Tuesday is that the natives are seriously pissed off and the 'silly school girl giggling in the corner' routine will really rub people up the wrong way.
I can see Tuesday not running smoothly.
That all comes down to the people invited to ask the right and relevant questions and the CEO and Murray to be ALLOWED to reply.
A repeat of February is not the way forward.
I really don't think this is likely to be the problem . . .
We were in Crossbars before the game and she spent some time talking to people and fielding questions. Admittedly most of her replies were somewhat guarded but she did admit to the fact that the team - not the club - were in trouble, that they (I assume she meant the interim manager/coaching staff) were working to overcome this. Would not be drawn on appointment of new manager/players but insisted that there were enough games left to climb the table. Time will tell, but yesterday's performance may be the start. Can't recall such a positive start to a game since August -Hull/QPR.
Excellent result for sure, but surprised across the various threads that this seems to be seen by some as the turning of the corner. It's one game, just as MK Dons was one game. Hard to believe that almost overnight an inept CEO has become a good one and a manager with almost no experience has become the answer. Let's be prepared to accept we were wrong in a month or two, and in the meantime keep up the pressure.
I'm some distance from all this so can only go by what I read on CL. Some time ago, when we were doing well and KM did a piece on the TV news, I seem to recall many positive comments about her, such as she was a great advertisement for the club, and that she was well respected by the other staff. Was it a case that people misjudged her badly then, or is it a case of people taking out their frustrations on her now because she is the public face of RD ? I have no idea and I find all this very confusing and the hatred aimed at her very distasteful and un Charlton like. Could it be a case that she has too much on her plate ATM and would greatly benefit from having far less input on the football side of things by allowing control of footballing matters to revert back to the manager, as they did under Curbs, or by appointing a director of football?
. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
I watched the last q&a earlier with her and Murray. She laughs at nearly everything.
The Problem for her on Tuesday is that the natives are seriously pissed off and the 'silly school girl giggling in the corner' routine will really rub people up the wrong way.
The problem on Tuesday is who exactly has been invited & of those invited have they had to submit their questions beforehand ?
Step forward all Charlton fans who have never screwed up...
The future is what matters. Let's hope the meeting on Tuesday moves things forward.
The meeting is not going to move things forward. Meire is going to use the win yesterday as a shield to deflect any criticism and will state that Fraeye is just starting to get his point across and that the Sheff. Wednesday result is evidence of that. I'm happy to hold my hands up if that doesn't reflect the truth of it, but I'm confident that's how it will play out.
In terms of screwing up, of course we all do it, but learning to show humility and realising that you don't always know best are admirable qualities. This regime has sleepwalked from blunder to blunder and has begun to alienate the very people that they need in order to move this club forward. These aren't just small cock ups, they are major errors of judgement from people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. Meire has presided over some ridiculous events at this club and she needs to be held accountable.
. In interviews I have seen she laughs to cover up embarrassment or to avoid answering difficult questions.
I watched the last q&a earlier with her and Murray. She laughs at nearly everything.
The Problem for her on Tuesday is that the natives are seriously pissed off and the 'silly school girl giggling in the corner' routine will really rub people up the wrong way.
I can see Tuesday not running smoothly.
That all comes down to the people invited to ask the right and relevant questions and the CEO and Murray to be ALLOWED to reply.
A repeat of February is not the way forward.
Murray is Meire's minder. Nobody wants to talk to Murray.
So is she a CEO or a puppet? As a CEO what would be her role?
Well here's a wiki entry that I think covers the bulk of it.
'Typically, the CEO/MD has responsibilities as a director, decision maker, leader, manager and executor. The communicator role can involve the press and the rest of the outside world, as well as the organization's management and employees; the decision-making role involves high-level decisions about policy and strategy. As a leader of the company, the CEO/MD advises the board of directors, motivates employees, and drives change within the organization.'
If the above is a fair reflection of what you'd expect a CEO to be doing, then I don't think she is very good at her job.
So is she a CEO or a puppet? As a CEO what would be her role?
Well here's a wiki entry that I think covers the bulk of it.
'Typically, the CEO/MD has responsibilities as a director, decision maker, leader, manager and executor. The communicator role can involve the press and the rest of the outside world, as well as the organization's management and employees; the decision-making role involves high-level decisions about policy and strategy. As a leader of the company, the CEO/MD advises the board of directors, motivates employees, and drives change within the organization.'
If the above is a fair reflection of what you'd expect a CEO to be doing, then I don't think she is very good at her job.
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It's a fact that smiling is as an innate sign of submission, it is saying I am not a threat to a person showing aggression.
Personally I wouldn't make a big issue of it.
The Problem for her on Tuesday is that the natives are seriously pissed off and the 'silly school girl giggling in the corner' routine will really rub people up the wrong way.
Not done herself any favours.
The future is what matters. Let's hope the meeting on Tuesday moves things forward.
Katrien time to go - By the way can you take your bogus posters with you when you leave?
How bad does it have to get before you think "You know what, I'll have a word" ??
A repeat of February is not the way forward.
Katrien doesn't need a bloody white knight. She's an adult in a high powered, high pressure job and she's cocking it up. She's getting told that and she's doing nothing to arrest it. All these people popping up crying 'leave the lassie alone' aren't helping her or the club. But I bet it makes you feel great.
I have no idea and I find all this very confusing and the hatred aimed at her very distasteful and un Charlton like. Could it be a case that she has too much on her plate ATM and would greatly benefit from having far less input on the football side of things by allowing control of footballing matters to revert back to the manager, as they did under Curbs, or by appointing a director of football?
In terms of screwing up, of course we all do it, but learning to show humility and realising that you don't always know best are admirable qualities. This regime has sleepwalked from blunder to blunder and has begun to alienate the very people that they need in order to move this club forward. These aren't just small cock ups, they are major errors of judgement from people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. Meire has presided over some ridiculous events at this club and she needs to be held accountable.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/happiness-in-world/201101/why-we-laugh
Might explain it, so we should not take her Grin personal.
'Typically, the CEO/MD has responsibilities as a director, decision maker, leader, manager and executor. The communicator role can involve the press and the rest of the outside world, as well as the organization's management and employees; the decision-making role involves high-level decisions about policy and strategy. As a leader of the company, the CEO/MD advises the board of directors, motivates employees, and drives change within the organization.'
If the above is a fair reflection of what you'd expect a CEO to be doing, then I don't think she is very good at her job.