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Charlton v Brentford - Post match views

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  • Rob said:

    Derek1952 said:

    Could someone ask Luzon to acknowledge the supporters at the end of the game especally in the in the North Stand,I know its a minor point but would help to get them on his side.

    Why 'especially the North Stand'? Apart from that I agree with your point.
    Perhaps he needs a little acknowledgement in return - he got the team and tactics right, and you could tell from the body language even before the game that team spirit was right - very good to see Tal getting involved verbally like he used to rather than sulking and how the team were high fiving each other throughout the game.
  • Putting everything else going on to one side. Just for tonight it's great to see everyone buzzing off a win.

    I can't really add much more other than what's been said. Just that we fully deserved it, and I hope this starting XI can find a bond/team spirit to keep us up
  • I started my post match views on Tuesday with "shite, complete and utter shite" ... well, today - "brilliant, completely and utterly brilliant".

    It's hard to believe that I just went to watch the same football club play that I did on Tuesday night!

    I was happy with the team selection apart from perhaps Bulot for Harriott. Shows what I know because Bulot was absolutely outstanding from start to finish. Some great work from him for the opening goal down the left. He took is goal very well, not easy at that angle with that much time. Roasted their right back a few times and was busting a gut to help out defensively - can't ask for more!

    Watt - wow, what a player. He deserved a goal today and was only denied by a great Button save. Proper hero stuff at the end when he made their defender look ridiculously stupid by the corner flag. Sometimes a player just clicks with a new club and I think he is one of those players, he's already developing a relationship with the fans as you could see by the chanting after the final whistle.

    Vetokele back to what he does best ... Goals! Two in two now and ten for the season, hopefully that's him back on form for the run in then!

    Simple game football isn't it! Two genuine wide players, two strikers and everybody in their correct positions. Attacking, purposeful and direct football. We broke with pace and looked incredibly dangerous when we did with JBG, Watt, Vetokele and Bulot all comfortable with the ball at their feet. This is a dangerous front line - goals goals goals.

    Good to see Cousins back in the centre. A few misplaced passes but nothing disastrous, his engine in midfield was vital ... he seemed to be everywhere. Buyens was better than recently. Can't stand the way he left the pitch though, but I'm too happy to care too much I suppose.

    Solly was very good. That tackle in the left back area in the second half - brave guy. Absolutely munched whoever it was!

    Very good debut from Johnson, a proper, genuine centre half. Leading and shouting the whole game, different class to what we saw from Bikey on Tuesday. Johnson seems to have a lot of passion, a real tryer with a will to win - he was properly pumped up at the final whistle. Ben Haim was very good aswell with A good performance from Fox as well.

    Brentford were dire but don't let you fool you that this wasn't a great performance.

    Fans were brilliant, were behind the team right from minute one. We outsung as well as out played Brentford.

    Let's hope the injuries to Jackson and Wiggins aren't too bad.

    Well done to Guy Luzon as well. A good (if not obvious!) team selection, and the sub near the end of Wilson for Vetokele was at a perfect time. We needed an extra body in the tiring midfield.

    I've said a couple of times that something needs to happen soon to turn this around - well this is that moment. We're going to be fine.

    Problems not sorted at The Valley so I'm not going to let it paint over any cracks but this is a big day in the context of the season IMO.

    Get in, COYR!

    An excellent summary - only with the exception that I don't think Brentford were dire. They didn't really get started first half but they were dangerous in the second half, after they moved Pritchard inside. He was really making them tick, with fast and accurate passing. He is going to be some player - just wish he played for us.
  • I feel proud of my team and my fellow CAFC fans.

    To watch the most depressing 45 mins at the valley in the 1st half against Norwich to the best 98 mins we had at the valley all season, beating the Derby game because we kept a clean sheet.

    Most people before kick off thought the shape of the team looked good and was
    so glad at long last Tony and Igor were starting together. I wanted Bulot to get the nod over Callum because he was playing in his best position for the 1st time and wanted to see how he linked up with two strikers. also this helped Johann who was so much better than Tuesday night, other than his brace at Leeds JBG only does great goals.

    From the 1st whistle the crowd were positive just like the team,
    The last 3 months have been a nightmare on and off the pitch.
    I hope Watt and Johnson will lift the team, like they did today.

    Don't feel all our problems have gone away, the squad is still too light.
    Since Brentford away, I like many others have said Igor needed a partner,
    Still feel annoyed that it took till Feb 14th for a quality striker to start alongside him.
  • Tony Watt is a Scottish sexual monster
  • Am posting this without reading anything previous. Have been slammed from Arsenal and City chums.

    One swallow...........................remember that the football comes secondary after the shenanigans off the pitch.
  • mrbligh said:

    Tony Watt is a Scottish sexual monster

    Careful! These days that may be seen as libellous rather than complimentary... :smiley:

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  • And where did 4 mins of second half injury time come from? had 4 mins first half because of injuries but that meant that the usual "30 secs per sub" didn't apply, especially as Brentford made a double sub.

    Put the 4th official in charge of time, synch his watch to the stadium clock, and show us what's going on. We pay for it, after all.


    Surprised it was only 4 mins. 3 long injuries and I thought it should have been at least 6 mins.
  • Redrobo said:



    And where did 4 mins of second half injury time come from? had 4 mins first half because of injuries but that meant that the usual "30 secs per sub" didn't apply, especially as Brentford made a double sub.

    Put the 4th official in charge of time, synch his watch to the stadium clock, and show us what's going on. We pay for it, after all.

    Surprised it was only 4 mins. 3 long injuries and I thought it should have been at least 6 mins.

    All in the second half?

  • aliwibble said:

    mrbligh said:

    Tony Watt is a Scottish sexual monster

    Careful! These days that may be seen as libellous rather than complimentary... :smiley:

    beer + the internet on a phone + my new hero Tony Watt = not such a good mix
  • I know, I know....It's a bit late but after all it IS Valentine's Day and I've been a tad busy.....

    ...trying to wipe that big smile off my face ( If that's what it's called - it's been SO long :smile: )


    I'm glad you enjoyed your Valentine's Day Fanny :-)

  • edited February 2015
    Not a lot I can add to what has already been said, especially as I wasn't there, but I've had a bit of a spring in my step today thanks to finally having that winning feeling again. As did a lot of us it seems, I had a better feeling when I saw the line up. Senior players in their correct positions and an absence of teenagers on the bench.

    Not sure if the majority of the credit lies with Jacko or Luzon, but someone seems to have done a grand job of rallying the troops after Tuesday's debacle. Even through the commentary, the renewed fight in the team was clear and needs to be retained for the rest if the season if at all possible. What was also really refreshing to hear was Pete and Tel repeatedly describing shots from Charlton players. We were actually creating chances for a change, at last!

    We shouldn't get carried away with either the team performance or any of the individual ones because at this time it could just be case of the attacking players all putting in long overdue performances at the same time and against a team potentially disrupted by the baffling speculation about their manager's future and it doesn't change anything off the field, but we have cause for hope again though which was all but lost 24 hrs ago.

    Well done boys.
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  • Chapeau Mr Luzon.
  • edited February 2015

    Where did that come from? It was like waking from a nightmare and finding everything was okay after all.
    New spine, new belief, new beginning (calm down, calm down)

    How long have we been calling for Watt and Vetokele together?
    How long have we been calling for Jordan to play in the middle?
    Weren't we asking for Bulot on the wing (if at all)?
    Weren't we hoping for Henderson to return?
    Didn't we want Johnson to replace Bikey?

    It all seems so obvious, doesn't it?

    It would be churlish not to credit Luzon though; the team certainly looked united today, for the first time in ages.

    Brentford were poor - but mainly because we made them poor - with our rock tight defence (like we started the season) their passing game broke down without ever threatening our final third.
    Our front two worried their defence all afternoon and took the pressure off our defence for the first time in ages.

    Isn't this what home games are supposed be like?
    It was a welcome relief from the depressive gloom.
    Surely there is too much quality in this side for relegation?
    The test now is to consolidate and prove that Brentford was more than just the right team at the right time.

    Hold back the meeting?
    Don't be ridiculous.

    But it wouldn't surprise me if some of the waverers are mollified by the victory feelgood factor.
    At least for this week!

    Some good points and you reiterate the feelings of many.

    Would just like to add:

    It is likely that Tony Watt has only just reached the level of fitness required to play a full 90.

    We should not forget the contribution Bikey made from the very first game - he and Ben Haim were a revelation. Unfortunately Bikey was struggling - for whatever reasons, as the season progressed so bringing in Johnson and getting Henderson back is timely indeed, to say the least.
    We should not forget what Bikey and Tal gave us for the first half of the season.

    Regarding 'the meeting'.
    Of course the fans should be able to air their views so meet all you like.
    I have, from day one, been convinced that the new Management have a positive strategy and game plan and that does not include playing in the lower leagues.


  • Having not attended for a while, I admit I was fearing the worst before the game, in fact I have never been less eager to watch a game in my life. So it was a pleasant surprise to find firstly Henderson back, that was a real plus, but also a team that really worked hard and played as a unit. Sitting where I do in Lower west it was also rather obvious that the entire team had chosen to ignore Luzon through the entire match! The best decision of the game for me! He jumped around a lot and in the end resorted to some type of semaphore, but the only person who showed any interest in him was the fourth official who kept reminding him to get back into his lines. Anyway, leaving him out of the equasion as he's not that important, I was impressed with Tony Watt, think he'll be a good striker for us, reminds me a little, but only a little of Killer, in his attitude. Bulot, who I'd forgotten about, also impressed and Roger Johnson really made a difference in defence. Having Henderson back seemed to calm the defence down and they seemed to know what they were doing. Goals all well taken, so won't single anyone out, a great team effort, well done lads!
  • It was a pleasure doing the match thread for the first time in ages!! I was still nervous after we went 1 up but after the second I just knew we wouldn't throw this one away. I even asked for 3 on the thread and Bulot delivered..great stuff. Watt, Igor, Bulot and Jonno sounded as though they were immense as was JJ until he went off. Now lets move onwards and (hopefully) upwards.
  • Having not attended for a while, I admit I was fearing the worst before the game, in fact I have never been less eager to watch a game in my life. So it was a pleasant surprise to find firstly Henderson back, that was a real plus, but also a team that really worked hard and played as a unit. Sitting where I do in Lower west it was also rather obvious that the entire team had chosen to ignore Luzon through the entire match! The best decision of the game for me! He jumped around a lot and in the end resorted to some type of semaphore, but the only person who showed any interest in him was the fourth official who kept reminding him to get back into his lines. Anyway, leaving him out of the equasion as he's not that important, I was impressed with Tony Watt, think he'll be a good striker for us, reminds me a little, but only a little of Killer, in his attitude. Bulot, who I'd forgotten about, also impressed and Roger Johnson really made a difference in defence. Having Henderson back seemed to calm the defence down and they seemed to know what they were doing. Goals all well taken, so won't single anyone out, a great team effort, well done lads!

    Glad you were able to make the game and enjoy the performance.

    If Luzon is not the motivator then I'd like to know who is.

    Luzon and his backroom team must surely set the strategy, as well as have considerable, if not total, involvement in team selection - or maybe I'm just naive?

    I've never seen a team in any environment, work or sport, flourish without a leader.
  • Quality performance as has already been said.

    Was noticeable before kick off that the players looked happier and more motivated than the morose bunch we've had in recent weeks.

    Guy Luzon needs to take credit for yesterday (but not vindication yet). Has picked up on the right things to do with this team albeit belatedly so it would be churlish not to congratulate him for yesterday.

    Brentford fans will no doubt claim that the made us look good but I truly feel we made them look under par. We played at a very high tempo forcing mistakes and the players seem much fitter than a few weeks ago.

    It could have been more goals had we been more composed with our final balls in good positions. If we continue to create these positions better execution will come, it was more a case of the plethora 'final ball opportunities' coming as a shock to the players systems.

    Finally, I hope we do get a couple of quality loanees. One up front to give an option in case of injury or the need to play 4-5-1 (e.g. Derby away), an attacking central midfielder and possibly a left back depending on Wiggin's injury.
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