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Charlton A vs Bolton W | Tues 21st Oct 2014 | Match Preview, Teams, Predictions, News & Views

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  • Hands up who doesn't see a lot of difference between how we played under SCP towards the end and how we played on Saturday. There was no creativity and the passing was woeful. Jackson and Buyens together in midfield is too one-paced. The only positions I feel certain about are the goalkeeper and two centre-backs.
  • Kermy said:

    This is a defeat. Our slide in quality combined with the new manager effect at Bolton will result in a 2-0 loss.

    I fear this has hit the nail on the head.
  • Hands up who doesn't see a lot of difference between how we played under SCP towards the end and how we played on Saturday. There was no creativity and the passing was woeful. Jackson and Buyens together in midfield is too one-paced. The only positions I feel certain about are the goalkeeper and two centre-backs.

    Meanwhile Huddersfield played some lovely football on Saturday… Maybe our squad needs an overhaul.
  • Hands up who doesn't see a lot of difference between how we played under SCP towards the end and how we played on Saturday. There was no creativity and the passing was woeful. Jackson and Buyens together in midfield is too one-paced. The only positions I feel certain about are the goalkeeper and two centre-backs.

    Meanwhile Huddersfield played some lovely football on Saturday… Maybe our squad needs an overhaul.
    I heard theTerriers have got a decent new Manager, maybe we should keep an eye on him for the future. :-0
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Do we go with

    ------------Henderson
    Wilson----Morrison----TBH----Wiggins
    -
    JBG------Buyens-----Jackson----Cousins
    -
    ----------Bikey---Tucudean

    Bully their defence with the big boys.

    Bikey didn't look too clever up front for the last 14 mins at Bournemouth. Not saying he couldn't have the odd decisive moment but you couldn't play anything to his feet because he is very immobile.
  • Welcome dude and a very good first post.

    Now remember, I am the intelligent one. Everyone else on here just thinks they are!
  • I watch our shenanigans from the sidelines nowadays. In conversations on here and in the fabled CL match thread I have sensed a draining away of the confidence in our play that was so infectious and new from k.o this season. We have Charltonised a whole new squad it seems.

    I was not surprised when looking up at Soccer Saturday in the pub when we went one down early doors and just assumed there was no come back, even with 85 minutes remaining. On returning home I had to physically restrain myself, well lock the lap top away, from screaming "BUY ANOTHER STRIKER!!!" , "LOAN ANOTHER STRIKER!!!" , "STEAL ANOTHER STRIKER!!!" in multiple pointless new threads.

    We need a loan(s) Mr RD, pretty please.
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Do we go with

    ------------Henderson
    Wilson----Morrison----TBH----Wiggins
    -
    JBG------Buyens-----Jackson----Cousins
    -
    ----------Bikey---Tucudean

    Bully their defence with the big boys.

    I mentioned this yesterday about Bikey playing up front, could work, I think JBG is carrying an injury so may not start. This would mean Cousins on the right and Bulot on the left. Subs, this would leave Pope, Fox, Thomas, Moussa, Munns/JBG, Harriot, KAG. I think it would be too much to expect KAG to start after playing full game on Saturday.
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  • Welcome Sefree. To add to my comments above, I think if we can stop them scoring we may nick it, not much confidence in any other score. BP must ask himself what has happened to the player confidence we started the season with.
  • Bolton under Freedman were grossly underachieving, perhaps he'd 'lost the dressing room'.. Lennon, like or loath him, is a good manager and will get the players organised, working hard and to a decent pattern ..

    sorry to repeat like a broken vinyl 45 stuck in the groove, WE ARE SO WEAK IN ATTACK that our season's good start is in jeopardy.

    Depending on injury and fitness, try Moussa and Harriott up front to start .. at least there will be a lot of pace and effort .. but I know that this will not happen ((:<)

    I am going for another point .. look upon it as one won or lost depending on the glass being 1/2 full or nearly empty

    CAFC 1 v Bolton Wanderers 1
  • Comfortable home win 4-0.
  • Bikey up front for 90 minutes is a ridiculous idea.

    In your and it seems others opinion
  • Gudmundsson and Buyens voted themselves out with their robbery 'performances' on Saturday and the notion of Cousins on the left has been proved duff at least half a dozen times this season. So I'd be forced to start with:
    Henderson
    Wilson, TBH, Bikey, Wiggins
    Moussa, Cousins, Jackson, Bulot
    KAG, Tucudean

    Probably with Pope, Fox, Gomez, Morrison, Ansah, Munns and cos there's noone else left Calamity

    Hopefully the paucity of Bob's playing resources will be made abundantly clear to Roly on this week's visit and KM will be able to sanction a couple or 3 loans to fill in for Igor's injury and the midfield shirkers
  • ross1 said:

    Bikey up front for 90 minutes is a ridiculous idea.

    In your and it seems others opinion
    Well, yeah, obviously.
  • edited October 2014
    ross1 said:

    Bikey up front for 90 minutes is a ridiculous idea.

    In your and it seems others opinion
    I wouldn't rule out Bikey up front tomorrow, not saying it would be my choice but Bob is not afraid to be bold with his selections or substitutions. Being an ex striker, he recognises the need to get some aerial presence up front especially late on and if chasing a game a la Huddersfield and last Saturday.

    He could go for a change of formation to 5-3-2 with the two full backs likely to be Wilson and Wiggins pushing on to make a 5 man midfield either side of Cousins, Jackson (the Captain starts) and Moussa or Harriott. Playing Moro gives extra height in the side which we need without Igor for defensive set plays. George and KAG up front. The option to push Bikey up top during the game is still there whilst reverting to 4-4-2.

    JBG is not fully fit IMO and Buyens is knackered by his own admission, so save them for Fulham Friday.
  • Maybe big bob will bring himself out of retirement for this one.. could be just what we need...
  • I have really bad feeling about this . Bolton with a new manager and us with crucial players out injured but one saving grace might be that RD is going to be there tomorrow night and that might make the players give a bit more.

    1-3
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  • RedChaser said:

    ross1 said:

    Bikey up front for 90 minutes is a ridiculous idea.

    In your and it seems others opinion
    I wouldn't rule out Bikey up front tomorrow, not saying it would be my choice but Bob is not afraid to be bold with his selections or substitutions. Being an ex striker, he recognises the need to get some aerial presence up front especially late on and if chasing a game a la Huddersfield and last Saturday.

    He could go for a change of formation to 5-3-2 with the two full backs likely to be Wilson and Wiggins pushing on to make a 5 man midfield either side of Cousins, Jackson and Moussa or Harriott. Playing Moro gives extra height in the side which we need without Igor for defensive set plays. The option to push Bikey up front during the game is still there whilst reverting to 4-4-2.

    JBG is not fully fit IMO and Buyens is knackered by his own admission, so save them for Fulham Friday.
    There is no way he will start with Bikey up front. What sort of message does that send to the rest of the squad especially George and KG?. Bikey going up front is a plan Bob has when it's desperation stakes and the opposition are tiring .
  • RedChaser said:

    ross1 said:

    Bikey up front for 90 minutes is a ridiculous idea.

    In your and it seems others opinion
    I wouldn't rule out Bikey up front tomorrow, not saying it would be my choice but Bob is not afraid to be bold with his selections or substitutions. Being an ex striker, he recognises the need to get some aerial presence up front especially late on and if chasing a game a la Huddersfield and last Saturday.

    He could go for a change of formation to 5-3-2 with the two full backs likely to be Wilson and Wiggins pushing on to make a 5 man midfield either side of Cousins, Jackson and Moussa or Harriott. Playing Moro gives extra height in the side which we need without Igor for defensive set plays. The option to push Bikey up front during the game is still there whilst reverting to 4-4-2.

    JBG is not fully fit IMO and Buyens is knackered by his own admission, so save them for Fulham Friday.
    There is no way he will start with Bikey up front. What sort of message does that send to the rest of the squad especially George and KG?. Bikey going up front is a plan Bob has when it's desperation stakes and the opposition are tiring .
    We also need him at the back.
  • edited October 2014

    RedChaser said:

    ross1 said:

    Bikey up front for 90 minutes is a ridiculous idea.

    In your and it seems others opinion
    I wouldn't rule out Bikey up front tomorrow, not saying it would be my choice but Bob is not afraid to be bold with his selections or substitutions. Being an ex striker, he recognises the need to get some aerial presence up front especially late on and if chasing a game a la Huddersfield and last Saturday.

    He could go for a change of formation to 5-3-2 with the two full backs likely to be Wilson and Wiggins pushing on to make a 5 man midfield either side of Cousins, Jackson and Moussa or Harriott. Playing Moro gives extra height in the side which we need without Igor for defensive set plays. The option to push Bikey up front during the game is still there whilst reverting to 4-4-2.

    JBG is not fully fit IMO and Buyens is knackered by his own admission, so save them for Fulham Friday.
    There is no way he will start with Bikey up front. What sort of message does that send to the rest of the squad especially George and KG?. Bikey going up front is a plan Bob has when it's desperation stakes and the opposition are tiring .

    RedChaser said:

    ross1 said:

    Bikey up front for 90 minutes is a ridiculous idea.

    In your and it seems others opinion
    I wouldn't rule out Bikey up front tomorrow, not saying it would be my choice but Bob is not afraid to be bold with his selections or substitutions. Being an ex striker, he recognises the need to get some aerial presence up front especially late on and if chasing a game a la Huddersfield and last Saturday.

    He could go for a change of formation to 5-3-2 with the two full backs likely to be Wilson and Wiggins pushing on to make a 5 man midfield either side of Cousins, Jackson and Moussa or Harriott. Playing Moro gives extra height in the side which we need without Igor for defensive set plays. The option to push Bikey up front during the game is still there whilst reverting to 4-4-2.

    JBG is not fully fit IMO and Buyens is knackered by his own admission, so save them for Fulham Friday.
    There is no way he will start with Bikey up front. What sort of message does that send to the rest of the squad especially George and KG?. Bikey going up front is a plan Bob has when it's desperation stakes and the opposition are tiring .
    We also need him at the back.
    As I said it wouldn't be my choice but don't rule it out and we don't necessarily need Bikey at the back if Moro comes into a 4-4-2 or my preference of 5-3-2. Bob needs to bounce back and get a result tomorrow irrespective of the messages he might be sending out. Anyway KAG and or George would still start for me depending on the formation.
  • Evening game at the Valley, under the lights so that's a big plus so can see us playing better against a weaker but organised team. Not much in it but a win to the addicks, Captain JJ
  • Another poor performance Bolton will win 1-0.
  • Would take not losing right now, personally would go 4-5-1 and look for a tight 1-0.
  • I think we can rule out Bikey up front from the start. Luckily Peeters is in charge and not some of you lot!

    I mentioned Bikey up front, not because I want him there but BP wants a lump up front and he has experimented with him. If I had a choice I would like to get a recognised striker in on loan now, even when Igor is fit before we start slipping down the league. If we wait to January, it could be too late. If we keep a clean sheet tomorrow, we could even get a lucky goal. Not expecting anything else and will not be any better on Friday, we rarely win on TV, and people say I am usually an optimist, 1 point from each game
  • Deary me. Sticking a centre back upfront for 90 mins. Look forward to seeing bikey turn his man and pop one in the top c. Or pull out wide and beat his man down the line :D

    Or hoof ball for 90 minutes as he would only be up there to win the flick ons.

    With 10 minutes to go and a goal down then yea I've got no probs with the beast up top but for the whole game, it would be a laugh, or not.
  • It would not be the first time a CB has played up front and then gone on to become a regular striker, probably because I am an old git, I can't remember names, but you are probably right, too late for Bikey, but it shows how desperate we are, (in my opinion)
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