Ben Haim Unavailable On Saturday?
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I'm actually pretty sure it's written in every player in this country's contract. I can imagine it's one of the things the PFA make sure that the player's football club has to respect the player's religious holidays.red_murph said:If true. What's to say it's not written into his contract?
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I just hope that
@CharltonBoy
doesn't wear his new Ben Hyphen Haim shirt. God might not realise he's an imposter and he'll get struck by lightening.2 -
Oh dear. If this is an attempt at humour it is poor, if it is serious then is is pretty sad.cafcnick1992 said:Maybe he can have the day off if he brings in one grain of evidence for his God to Bob Peeters. I think that's fair.
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let's be clear - I agree with him missing the game for his religious reasons.SELR_addicks said:
Maybe he's slightly more religious than you?MrOneLung said:
That is irrelevant, I have it off as it is a public holiday.SELR_addicks said:
Why do you think it's a public holiday in this Christian country?MrOneLung said:
That is a public holiday though - I have that off, but not for religious reasons.WSS said:
I assume you're going into work on Christmas Day?cafcnick1992 said:I'm not going into work tomorrow because Zeus told me on the Thursday of the 40th year, I need to stay at home and play fifa.
Lets see how that goes down with my boss.
If it was not a public holiday, I would not be having the day off.
I wonder how many devout Christians around the country would refuse to work on Christmas Day if a firm asked them to.
Was just replying about Christmas Day and that I would not be having the day off for religious reasons.0 -
Respect to TBH for this decision. He has given us his all on the pitch and I have no doubt will continue to do so.1
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I respect his decision. Will be happy to see Michael Morrison get his chance to play too.0
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Why could he not get time off for a religious holiday the honourable way like Danny Mills.23
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How many bookings has he had? Could we (possibly) be losing him again shortly after?0
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I remember Avram Grant doing something similar.0
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Im_Jordans_Cousin said:
How many bookings has he had? Could we (possibly) be losing him again shortly after?
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Probably not then!Henry Irving said:Im_Jordans_Cousin said:How many bookings has he had? Could we (possibly) be losing him again shortly after?
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Buyens 4 0
Wiggins 3 0
Ben Haim 2 0
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stonewallpenalty said:
I remember Avram Grant doing something similar.
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How has Bikey got less than these haha!!Henry Irving said:Im_Jordans_Cousin said:How many bookings has he had? Could we (possibly) be losing him again shortly after?
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Likewise... As we've discussed he's put in a big shift for us since joining in the summer...HantsAddick said:I respect his decision. Will be happy to see Michael Morrison get his chance to play too.
Wouldnt count your chickens that Morrison will be getting a start though... Bet Morgan Fox may have something to say about it (Seeing when we were protecting leads v Derby and Norwich it was Fox who came on0 -
Because even the refs are scared of Mountain Bikey...BR7_addick said:
How has Bikey got less than these haha!!Henry Irving said:Im_Jordans_Cousin said:How many bookings has he had? Could we (possibly) be losing him again shortly after?
Yellow Cards Red Cards
Buyens 4 0
Wiggins 3 0
Ben Haim 2 0
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Even as an atheist i've got respect other's religious beliefs. Anyone know if Muslim players dont play if Eid falls on a match day?1
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Is Boxing Day a religious holiday?
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I cannot believe that I get 3 lol's for highlighting childish religious abuse yet someone makes a comment like this and it doesn't even get flagged?!?!?cafcnick1992 said:Maybe he can have the day off if he brings in one grain of evidence for his God to Bob Peeters. I think that's fair.
What kind of people do we have on this board? That's a disgusting way to speak about one of our players.0 -
Boxing Day is St Stephen's Day.PL54 said:Is Boxing Day a religious holiday?
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Many moons ago I was called a racist for daring to mention that muslim Charlton players observed Ramadan. Different players will observe it more strictly than others but people doing hard physical work are allowed to make up the time later so to speak.AllHailTheHen said:Even as an atheist i've got respect other's religious beliefs. Anyone know if Muslim players dont play if Eid falls on a match day?
Same with Yom Kippur. Pregnant women, children, the sick, etc don't have to fast but for many jews it is the one holy day they observe. It's meant to be about "atonement" and reflection, thinking on your sins, etc.
Eid is a bit different as it is the end of a fast (I think you HAVE to eat on Eid if you are Muslim) so less of an issue with playing sport.0 -
Got no problem with Ben Haim having this time off for Yom Kippur and respect him for sticking to his religious beliefs. I also have no worries about Morrison taking his place on Saturday. Will give Morrison an opportunity to try and stay in the team too. He will need to be on top form though as Bikey and Ben Haim have been excellent to date.2
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Who's Yom Kippur, where does he play and how tall is he?2
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Bang on VG.ValleyGary said:Please tell me people are just trying to prove a point rather than actually being pissed off he's not available?!!!
The blokes been quality for us and has shown he's a valuable asset. I wouldnt wanna upset him and im sure the club and BP feel the same. Morrison will come in with a point to prove, so i dont see it being a problem.0 -
From wiki:
Antisemitism (also spelled Anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as a national, ethnic, religious or racial group.[1][2] A person who holds such positions is called an "antisemite". As Jews are an ethnoreligious group, antisemitism is generally considered a form of racism.[3]
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Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist.
So we have the following comment made by cafcnick1992 (and liked by LeaburnforEngland and BR7_ADDICK) -
"Maybe he can have the day off if he brings in one grain of evidence for his God to Bob Peeters. I think that's fair."
So most likely, a comment that disrespects one of our players and their beliefs. At worst, an anti-semitic comment that borders on racism (which I am sure it isn't).
The irony is that I was supposed to bring my little boys 6 year old friend down the valley in a couple of weeks and he is from an Israeli family (and very excited about seeing Ben Haim play). As long as he isn't about to get his (EDITED COMMENT INSERTED) *religious beliefs altered by a half time seminar on the benefits of atheism* then I still will.
This has really upset me actually.1 -
I think it's just smart-arse atheism. Didn't read any anti-semitism into it. Sorry your boy's kid won't get a chance to see Ben Haim.7
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No he isn't going to that game (as its Yom Kippur). Looking at the Sheff Weds game as it is so massive.Jints said:I think it's just smart-arse atheism. Didn't read any anti-semitism into it. Sorry your boy's kid won't get a chance to see Ben Haim.
Looking at some of the comments on here, some of our supporters would be better off following Millwall frankly.2 -
DamoNorthStand said:
From wiki:
Antisemitism (also spelled Anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as a national, ethnic, religious or racial group.[1][2] A person who holds such positions is called an "antisemite". As Jews are an ethnoreligious group, antisemitism is generally considered a form of racism.[3]
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Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist.
So we have the following comment made by cafcnick1992 (and liked by LeaburnforEngland and BR7_ADDICK) -
"Maybe he can have the day off if he brings in one grain of evidence for his God to Bob Peeters. I think that's fair."
So at best, a comment that disrespects one of our players and their beliefs. At worst, an anti-semitic comment that borders on racism.
The irony is that I was supposed to bring my little boys 6 year old friend down the valley in a couple of weeks and he is from an Israeli family (and very excited about seeing Ben Haim play). As long as he isn't about to get his his head kicked in by the Charlton Life anti Jewish community then I still will.
This has really upset me actually.
Dangerous (and a bit extreme imo) to infer that the above posters are antisemitic! Agreed, the post could have been slightly more sympathetic towards Ben Haim's views, although in the interest of equality and balance surely we need to be sympathetic towards the opposing?
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It's not anti-Jewish or anti-semetic, indeed it could be applied to any religion. As a throw away comment I thought it was quite funny... but that was all. No sinister undertones meant at all I don't think, either from the comment itself or my sinful act of clicking "like".
If "liking" it has caused offence though then I apologise, although how you go from seeing me clicking like to accusing me of anti-semitism is quite a leap in my opinion and more offensive than the initial comment that started this. I'm not "anti-Jewish"... nothing could be further from the truth... and so I look forward to your apology too.
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Getting back to the football aspect!
If he doesn't play might Solly come back as right back and young Gomez play as centre half?0
