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Brighton v Charlton - Post Match Thread 2014/15

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  • phillyb
    phillyb Posts: 13
    Posted before reading. Would have taken a point at 1 min and also at 90. Brighton played more football and Teixera will be a great player. If Ivor gets injured we could be in trouble. I thought the defence were good and buyens and igor. Cousins was disappointing as was Johan. I thought we'd attack more and thought we were asking for trouble defending as we did. Hopefully bulot, a creative midfielder and a striker to play along igor will make us very competitive. The unbeaten record still means a lot.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    Definite dive from Church. I was sat pretty much behind our bench and had a great view of it. Left a leg dangling out and went down like a sack of spuds.
  • Kermy
    Kermy Posts: 251
    I'm usually very pessimistic but this Charlton team has got me interested again. I can't wait for the next game knowing we've got goals in us.

    Was gutted today but drawing at Brighton is a good result.

    Hope we get another striker who nobody knows about just like Vetokele
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    1StevieG said:

    Definite dive from Church. I was sat pretty much behind our bench and had a great view of it. Left a leg dangling out and went down like a sack of spuds.

    Me too - defo a dive.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,910
    It was doubly valuable that we played so well against Wigan and Derby because those two early-season performances proved to us, the manager and the players themselves that this team is perfectly capable of sustaining quick attacks prompted by a strong midfield.

    Many good points raised above: the need for quality cover for Vetokele; the perils of zonal marking at corners; the danger of time-wasting with more than 20 minutes to go.

    The stats speak volumes: Brighton dominated possession and crafted more chances. A draw at the Amex is a respectable result. Yet, remember the adage: What is 'competent', or even what's 'good', can only ever be a point of departure, never a satisfactory point of arrival.

  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,114
    Just seen somebody post the SSN highlights on facebook, they're in the group for anyone who can't wait for tonight. I must say Henderson was very far off his line for their second goal. Can understand why Bob was angry as Leaburn said. Also what the hell was going on with the marking?! about four players all running towards the crosser basically leaving dunk with a free header, which he took well. All in all a poor goal to concede though.
  • What has been nice to see so far this season is we have a team/squad of proper professionals. By that I mean no fancy dans, no attention seeking histrionics, no players who just want to do the easy stuff.
    To a man they work hard, encourage each other and stick to their roles and responsibilities. Long may it continue.
  • Latimer
    Latimer Posts: 942
    Excellent counter attacking away performance. Should have nailed down Tiexara a bit more and sorted Dunk out the second time around.

    I too thought Church had been clipped too, his movement and running made a great difference and his assist is as good as anything you will see this season.

    Igor a real star goal scorer but he as Cousins gave away possession cheaply at times and in JC's case misplaced passes put us on the back foot several times whilst on an offensive assault early in the second half. Fair play to him though he keeps going never hides and is prepared to play on the left of midfield and he is a CAFC home grown excellent footballer, who hasn't jumped ship. He deserves a start alongside Buyens.

    Still unbeaten an excellent August and it looks promising for the rest of the season.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Vetokele is equal top scorer (with Grabban) in the Champ League.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited August 2014

    Yet, remember the adage: What is 'competent', or even what's 'good', can only ever be a point of departure, never a satisfactory point of arrival.

    Here we go.
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  • theeenorth
    theeenorth Posts: 2,277
    I think that after last season we would be delighted with the return so far, unbeaten is some achievement in this league. As for negativity well I remember those that called for us to go to the next level in the division above which was ridiculous then and there are still traces of unreasonable expectation now with some.
    In our current division unbeaten in three aways is fantastic. However like others have said there is room for improvement but we are so much better than last season and that will do for me at the moment.
    Feels very good to walk into the pub for the Chelski game and have the nob enders, manks and other glory boys all say decent result and still unbeaten. Bleakpool lot all very depressed.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Hellish journey there, but really enjoyed the afternoon. I was happy with the performance and it was so good to watch a Charlton team that looked capable of scoring. If you were a Brighton fan you'd say a draw was the least you deserved, but I thought we defended well for the most part. In terms of the occasion, our fans made almost all the noise.
    Also I left three minutes early and missed their goal, so as far as I'm concerned, we won.
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    We did well breaking up so many of their attacks back four well protected by Buyens and JJ with slick passing out of defence but weak on getting an outlet to build on. Lost a few mid field contests against some skilful Brighton players.
    Neither Tucadean nor Church had the ability to provide the hold up play we desperately needed and Brighton just kept coming back. Vetokele usual class but can't hold the front line alone .
    On the wing Cousins gave ball away time and time again
    Church couldn't get on the end of a bus queue let alone a through ball or an outlet ball.
    Happy with progress plenty of positives it will be tough for any team to turn us over.
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,831

    Was at the game. Brighton all possession no end product. We soaked up the pressure. Vetokele is clinical, Cousins is wasted outwide and we're lacking something in the middle. First time at the Amex, pathetic atmosphere from the home fans, Charlton fans on form.

    They had 3 against our two. One of our CFs need to learn to drop in when we are defending
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    I think it's a very good start. If we hadn't conceded two late goals at Brighton and Brentford we would be top table with 15 points. You can then also say if we didn't steal a draw away and a win at home to Wigan we would be further down. My point is football can be a funny old game, just accept our start for what it is.

    We're in the good half of the table, have the joint top goal scorer, haven't lost in the league, scored in every game, play better football than last season, have better players than last season.

    I think most of us expected a loss or a draw against Brentford, loss to Wigan, loss to Derby, draw or win to Huddersfield and a loss to Brighton but look where we are.

    A very new look squad with a new manager in a tough league yet we've taken 7 points against 3 of the top6 from last season. If that doesn't please anyone then I don't know what will.
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,831

    I was there. We were outplayed and out passed throughout but defended resolutely. We never looked panicked at the back but you can only defend with 10 men behind the ball for so long and they were always going to score goals. The times we went forward, we caused problems and Igor shows how vital it is to have a goalscorer - he almost single handedly earned us a point. With Bikey in the team we shouldn't be conceding from corners. Maybe zonal doesn't work? Bob may consider that this week.

    Tucudean was really poor IMO, and barely touched the ball (albeit he didn't have a lot of service). Ben Haim made some really poor mistakes and it's the worst I've seen him, considering I've not rated him less than 7.5 yet.

    All in all, despite playing poorly (IMO) we still came away with a point and nearly 3. That is the mark of a good side.

    Was there and thought goals aside TBH played well
  • We did well breaking up so many of their attacks back four well protected by Buyens and JJ with slick passing out of defence but weak on getting an outlet to build on. Lost a few mid field contests against some skilful Brighton players.
    Neither Tucadean nor Church had the ability to provide the hold up play we desperately needed and Brighton just kept coming back. Vetokele usual class but can't hold the front line alone .
    On the wing Cousins gave ball away time and time again
    Church couldn't get on the end of a bus queue let alone a through ball or an outlet ball.
    Happy with progress plenty of positives it will be tough for any team to turn us over.

    Bit harsh on Church I think today. Made the second goal and seemed like a decent outlet to me.
  • seriously_red
    seriously_red Posts: 5,741
    My second visit to the Amex and very different to the 0-0 draw 18 months ago. We were better and at times playing real football...Same as vs Derby and Wigan.
    Good to be top six but the table will be more accurate end September.
    So we've played all the play-off teams from last season and picked up seven points from three games.
    Unbeaten in the league so bring on Watford and Wolves - after that we will all be able to see if we stay top six.
    Glass half full? Reserve judgement? Bollox to all that sitting on the fence... This is an owner and a club on a mission - he's turned a bottom six club into a top six one in just eight months and Bulot has just joined. Yet another £2m addition to the squad. Not sure his best position but Cousins and Jackson on a job share going forwards. Add another striker and we should be looking up the table not down.
    Good to see Henderson back in goal and Bikey was immense. Solly, Gudmundsson, Buyens and Vetokele doing their stuff. Cousins had a dodgy few minutes second half but all in all this team is growing.
  • Late to the party as usual but having read all posts, feel the majority of us there today were more than happy with the performance whilst less so with the result. Yes, would have bitten your hand off for a point before kick off, especially noting their new signings, but such a late equaliser is always a bummer even though we knew in our heart of hearts it was going to happen.

    Echo everyone's praise of Igor - never thought we'd have a quality striker of his ilk this season so well done to RD & BB. And Bikey is a man mountain at the back whose mistakes are so few & far between that when they are made, we remember them clearly. Felt Rhoys had a stronger game than at Huddersfield , as did Solly but the latter is not at his best IMHO. I have no problem with Ben Haim but noted BB's words with him at the final whistle...and neither was smiling. Yoni continues to impress in midfield and JJ is, as always, JJ but once again , young Jordan's performance left a lot to be desired which is a concern.

    But all in all, a gutsy display from our lads & NO comparison with the same fixture last season. I hate international breaks with a vengeance & can't believe that the Warwicks/Kent semi is not being played next weekend but hopefully 2 weeks without a game will give BB ample time to work on what he perceives as weaknesses in the squad. Whether that includes bringing in another body by Monday's deadline remains to be seen but the way he clearly hurts when his team fails to win says it all for me. I'm confident that this down time will result in the tightening up of several areas & we shall see a marked improvement when Watford & Wolves pay us a visit. I'm believing anyway.....

    On a different note, did anyone else at the game see how their new striker was lauded when he came on in the 2nd half ?

    Maybe the lack of hair is a sore subject in Sussex by the Sea but to misspell their acquisition's name on the Big Screen was going too far...

    BOLDOCK indeed !
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 839
    Spot on Fanny. I did see Bob Peeters having a right go at TBH after the whistle and TBH was not arguing!
    I'm starting to like big Bobby!
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  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,831
    Peter_G said:

    Spot on Fanny. I did see Bob Peeters having a right go at TBH after the whistle and TBH was not arguing!
    I'm starting to like big Bobby!

    Looks like Bikey and Henderson got an earful too ...!!!

  • Maybe the lack of hair is a sore subject in Sussex by the Sea but to misspell their acquisition's name on the Big Screen was going too far...

    BOLDOCK indeed !

    Fanny, I live in Sussex by the Sea and have a slaphead so I can confirm your observation. Thanks for bringing it up :(
  • Peeters Said after the game that they knew all about Dunk's prowess in the air form set pieces. I think TBH was the one meant to be picking him up or occupying the space where he scored from as part of the zonal marking positioning.
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    We could lose our next five games and still be two points better off than at the same stage last season.

    I love statistics so here's another - during our seven competitive matches under Peeters, the final goal has occurred in the following minute: 85, 89, 90, 85, 90, 87, 90.

  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,625
    so don't leave early :)
    what's happened to your blog NYA?
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Missed our last game there so this was my first time at the Amex. Nice stadium, had a good view, I was high up in the stand and the seat was comfy haha. On the pitch I think we rode our luck. We are not passing well but hopefully the coaches will crack on with that if we are gonna play from the back. I like that bob has some passion and I was watching him shouting at the players continuously, I think he was a bit naïve tho to not tighten up and make a change. All in all im happy with what looks like a really promising team we have, We have a few boys that can get stuck in and tackle...so many great tackles today from bikey and also from yoni. I left the ground thinking we should of had a win but a draw was fair as we didn't have the ball much compared to them. Parking in Brighton is a cunt btw
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052

    so don't leave early :)
    what's happened to your blog NYA?

    Work and kids have taken up all the spare time I used to have :-(
  • When we scored our first there was a big rush forward and I fell over and took out an old boy in the process. It hurt.
  • iainambler
    iainambler Posts: 963
    vff said:

    Wasn't at the game but from what's being said so far it sounds very much like we are better than we were last season.
    So I can't understand why there is such negativity in some posts?
    A house divided against itself cannot stand - 100% positivity is necessary!

    Why does everyone have to be 100% positive ? This is not the Moonies or North Korea !
    OK - No call for Moonies/North Korea. The point I was trying to make (probably badly) is that there seems to me to be a lot of negativity in some postings. Admittedly no team is going to be perfect and mistakes and errors will happen, but it just seems that despite (in my estimation anyway) a great start to the season, some people still aren't happy.

    Yes - it is a forum and of course there should be a variety of opinion (and I fully respect yours, VFF). I'd just personally like to see more optimism and positivity - especially as this time last season it really felt like there was almost bugger all to be happy about!! ;-)
  • Gutted we didn't win but to be fair we were under pressure for large parts of the game. Brighton played some good stuff and we struggled to retain possession.
    The match stats say it all but with Igor up front we carry a real threat.