Because he's not very good ! I said it on the thread at the time that we were chasing him, watch you tube of his one successful season & ask yourself, how many goals would he have scored if there had been championship level goalies playing for his opponents ?
I admit to wanting him to come when we appeared to have the money. Thank goodness Roland stood his ground, and that Uwe wanted to annoy Bob, my worry now is why we were in for him in the first place, was Bob seduced by the YouTube as many of us were? In this case I really hope it has been a salutory lesson well learned.
I admit to wanting him to come when we appeared to have the money. Thank goodness Roland stood his ground, and that Uwe wanted to annoy Bob, my worry now is why we were in for him in the first place, was Bob seduced by the YouTube as many of us were? In this case I really hope it has been a salutory lesson well learned.
But as with anything his value was based on what we were willing to pay. Maybe BP did "want him" but at a sensible price. £500k-1m would have been sensible, his stats from last season justify that as a punt if the money was available. £3m (or whatever Wigan paid) clearly wasn't.
I admit to wanting him to come when we appeared to have the money. Thank goodness Roland stood his ground, and that Uwe wanted to annoy Bob, my worry now is why we were in for him in the first place, was Bob seduced by the YouTube as many of us were? In this case I really hope it has been a salutory lesson well learned.
Agree with this to an extent. I got a little over excited over a few YouTube clips, but still think it is way too early to write him off. As explained earlier on the thread, Arsene Wenger says he gives his players upto six months to adapt to the change on culture, style of football, family upheaval etc. I think the reaction to Delort's slow start is a symptom of our fast paced, instant gratification society where results are expected instantly. Not sure he'll cut it, but he definitely needs the rest of the season to settle.
A lot of fans on here didn't give the Liege loans six months last January! Tucudean is getting six months because we haven't got anyone any better. We clearly dodged a bullet here and I trust we have other targets lined up ready to help us keep climbing the league. I've not looked at December games let alone January but many sides are very similar. For the first time in many many years the future of CAFC is 100% in the hands of the board ~ they clearly have cash available and if the can identify and land a couple of decent players, it won't take six months to improve on what is already an impressive start.
I admit to wanting him to come when we appeared to have the money. Thank goodness Roland stood his ground, and that Uwe wanted to annoy Bob, my worry now is why we were in for him in the first place, was Bob seduced by the YouTube as many of us were? In this case I really hope it has been a salutory lesson well learned.
Do we actually have any evidence that we were seriously interested in him? I think all that happened was that his family and the Tours chairman generated so much hype that we almost inevitably took a look to make sure we weren't missing out on something. At least 15 clubs were "linked" with him before we were. That speaks volumes.
I admit to wanting him to come when we appeared to have the money. Thank goodness Roland stood his ground, and that Uwe wanted to annoy Bob, my worry now is why we were in for him in the first place, was Bob seduced by the YouTube as many of us were? In this case I really hope it has been a salutory lesson well learned.
Do we actually have any evidence that we were seriously interested in him? I think all that happened was that his family and the Tours chairman generated so much hype that we almost inevitably took a look to make sure we weren't missing out on something. At least 15 clubs were "linked" with him before we were. That speaks volumes.
We were definitely in for him, had the price been right:
Peeters said: “It’s good that he wants to play for Charlton. I love players who want to come and play for us.
“I let players go who don’t want to be here anymore, I only want dedicated players and players who want to come here and join us.
“Andy Delort is an interesting player but at this moment he is still playing for Tours.
“I think something between the two clubs (is being discussed)."
I admit to wanting him to come when we appeared to have the money. Thank goodness Roland stood his ground, and that Uwe wanted to annoy Bob, my worry now is why we were in for him in the first place, was Bob seduced by the YouTube as many of us were? In this case I really hope it has been a salutory lesson well learned.
Do we actually have any evidence that we were seriously interested in him? I think all that happened was that his family and the Tours chairman generated so much hype that we almost inevitably took a look to make sure we weren't missing out on something. At least 15 clubs were "linked" with him before we were. That speaks volumes.
We were definitely in for him, had the price been right:
Peeters said: “It’s good that he wants to play for Charlton. I love players who want to come and play for us.
“I let players go who don’t want to be here anymore, I only want dedicated players and players who want to come here and join us.
“Andy Delort is an interesting player but at this moment he is still playing for Tours.
“I think something between the two clubs (is being discussed)."
I remember that quote. However I'd be very interested to learn when and by what process we became "interested" in him, and what exactly we "discussed" (it could have been just "How much are you really asking for this geezer")
If we had identified him through our scouting process, surely we would have been in early, before anyone else had heard of him, (e.g. Igor)? Did/does Phil Chapple rate him? Did/do other network scouts? Did Standard look at him? Their name cropped up early, but then disappeared quickly, but it was then three weeks of pan European hype before our name came into the frame.
Something isn't right there, it never was. Several of us smelt a rat at the time,and said so on here, to considerable criticism and derision, and events proved us right (that he wasn't coming to us).
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I think both club and agent were peddling him around to maximise fee, signing on fee and wages (which they did), but I think our interest was genuine.
I admit to wanting him to come when we appeared to have the money. Thank goodness Roland stood his ground, and that Uwe wanted to annoy Bob, my worry now is why we were in for him in the first place, was Bob seduced by the YouTube as many of us were? In this case I really hope it has been a salutory lesson well learned.
Agree with this to an extent. I got a little over excited over a few YouTube clips, but still think it is way too early to write him off. As explained earlier on the thread, Arsene Wenger says he gives his players upto six months to adapt to the change on culture, style of football, family upheaval etc. I think the reaction to Delort's slow start is a symptom of our fast paced, instant gratification society where results are expected instantly. Not sure he'll cut it, but he definitely needs the rest of the season to settle.
Good point. Having scored what I consider to be 2 very good goals and 2 assists, I would like such an approach to be given to Tucudean.
He will be back playing in France this time next year IMO.
Just to be clear, i don't mean this in i think he will be awful because he did not sign for us, just that the way this deal has gone about has disaster written all over it and agree with what some other posters have suggested that what he really wanted was a decent deal in the top tier of French football but in the end he has taken the best deal at the club Tours have agreed a fee with.
I think he will end up on a loan with a view to buy deal at a Ligue 1 club for the 15/16 season.
Especially when Wigan are desperate to sell once that parachute money runs out and they have not got promoted again.
What a surprise this might be happening.....................
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Silly me, I shouldn't let something trivial like the truth get in the way of a good old slanging match Agree with this to an extent. I got a little over excited over a few YouTube clips, but still think it is way too early to write him off. As explained earlier on the thread, Arsene Wenger says he gives his players upto six months to adapt to the change on culture, style of football, family upheaval etc. I think the reaction to Delort's slow start is a symptom of our fast paced, instant gratification society where results are expected instantly. Not sure he'll cut it, but he definitely needs the rest of the season to settle.
Tucudean is getting six months because we haven't got anyone any better.
We clearly dodged a bullet here and I trust we have other targets lined up ready to help us keep climbing the league. I've not looked at December games let alone January but many sides are very similar.
For the first time in many many years the future of CAFC is 100% in the hands of the board ~ they clearly have cash available and if the can identify and land a couple of decent players, it won't take six months to improve on what is already an impressive start.
Peeters said: “It’s good that he wants to play for Charlton. I love players who want to come and play for us.
“I let players go who don’t want to be here anymore, I only want dedicated players and players who want to come here and join us.
“Andy Delort is an interesting player but at this moment he is still playing for Tours.
“I think something between the two clubs (is being discussed)."
If we had identified him through our scouting process, surely we would have been in early, before anyone else had heard of him, (e.g. Igor)? Did/does Phil Chapple rate him? Did/do other network scouts? Did Standard look at him? Their name cropped up early, but then disappeared quickly, but it was then three weeks of pan European hype before our name came into the frame.
Something isn't right there, it never was. Several of us smelt a rat at the time,and said so on here, to considerable criticism and derision, and events proved us right (that he wasn't coming to us).