You appear unaware of what has happened previously, Mr Peanuts. A thread I commenced was 'sunk' by Mr Bartram, resulting in it being hidden.
You have the pick of several pro-racing threads in which to participate. The sole place in which a different view could be presented was met with sabotage. How does that sit with you?
And then there's the abuse. All of it one-way. Moronic freak, or Freaky moron? I can't decide. Can I be both?
Your grouse about your thread closing is for the moderators, no one else. Your message about equine welfare is agreed with by every contributor to this and other racing threads - your goal of banning jump racing is not, of course, but most people here are prepared to agree to disagree. You, patently, are not. So, if you're tired of people being nasty to you, try being a little more prepared to look at things from both sides and less sneeringly sanctimonious every time a racehorse sadly dies.
Well said, Peanuts.
AK - I would say that without exception contributors to this thread care for the welfare of horses, and are in awe of the majesty that is the thoroughbred horse. They support changes that increase the safety of the sport for horses and jockeys, but they do not support abolition.
You will not change their opinions, as they are unlikely to change yours - consequently every single post you make on this thread is deliberately designed to generate conflict, and you are fully aware that most of us will bite, including me!
Were that the case I'd be on here several times a week and on some days more than once. I don't do that and you know it.
As to looking at things from both sides, I've done that. I have written before on here about doubting not that many proponents of racing have the welfare of the racehorse in mind and act in that regard as well as they can. Yet what I saw, too, is an industry fed by those speculating on an outcome that, each and every time, puts an animal's wellbeing at risk. I saw an industry supported by the rich and the powerful. I saw an industry that was resistant to change.
Some change is happening now. That is largely, I think, a result of the attentions of animal advocates who have shone a spotlight on the BHA.
The moderator doesn't want opposition. He wants everything to be nice and fluffy - as it was, I presume, when there was no view presented that was an alternative to that made hitherto.
The horseracing industry becomes ever-more defensive and the confidence of those who oppose it increases. Change is not offered up willingly. It has to be fought for.
Your grouse about your thread closing is for the moderators, no one else. Your message about equine welfare is agreed with by every contributor to this and other racing threads - your goal of banning jump racing is not, of course, but most people here are prepared to agree to disagree. You, patently, are not. So, if you're tired of people being nasty to you, try being a little more prepared to look at things from both sides and less sneeringly sanctimonious every time a racehorse sadly dies.
Well said, Peanuts.
AK - I would say that without exception contributors to this thread care for the welfare of horses, and are in awe of the majesty that is the thoroughbred horse. They support changes that increase the safety of the sport for horses and jockeys, but they do not support abolition.
You will not change their opinions, as they are unlikely to change yours - consequently every single post you make on this thread is deliberately designed to generate conflict, and you are fully aware that most of us will bite, including me!
AK advocates the banning of all horse racing, I think, not just jump racing but never answers the question about what is then supposed to happen to the thousands of horses in racing.
Your grouse about your thread closing is for the moderators, no one else. Your message about equine welfare is agreed with by every contributor to this and other racing threads - your goal of banning jump racing is not, of course, but most people here are prepared to agree to disagree. You, patently, are not. So, if you're tired of people being nasty to you, try being a little more prepared to look at things from both sides and less sneeringly sanctimonious every time a racehorse sadly dies.
Well said, Peanuts.
AK - I would say that without exception contributors to this thread care for the welfare of horses, and are in awe of the majesty that is the thoroughbred horse. They support changes that increase the safety of the sport for horses and jockeys, but they do not support abolition.
You will not change their opinions, as they are unlikely to change yours - consequently every single post you make on this thread is deliberately designed to generate conflict, and you are fully aware that most of us will bite, including me!
AK advocates the banning of all horse racing, I think, not just jump racing but never answers the question about what is then supposed to happen to the thousands of horses in racing.
You're both absolutely correct. Same old, same old from the self-righteous and authoritarian one. Quelle surprise.... you can lead a horse to water ......
Your grouse about your thread closing is for the moderators, no one else. Your message about equine welfare is agreed with by every contributor to this and other racing threads - your goal of banning jump racing is not, of course, but most people here are prepared to agree to disagree. You, patently, are not. So, if you're tired of people being nasty to you, try being a little more prepared to look at things from both sides and less sneeringly sanctimonious every time a racehorse sadly dies.
Well said, Peanuts.
AK - I would say that without exception contributors to this thread care for the welfare of horses, and are in awe of the majesty that is the thoroughbred horse. They support changes that increase the safety of the sport for horses and jockeys, but they do not support abolition.
You will not change their opinions, as they are unlikely to change yours - consequently every single post you make on this thread is deliberately designed to generate conflict, and you are fully aware that most of us will bite, including me!
AK advocates the banning of all horse racing, I think, not just jump racing but never answers the question about what is then supposed to happen to the thousands of horses in racing.
You're both absolutely correct. Same old, same old from the self-righteous and authoritarian one. Quelle surprise.... you can lead a horse to water ......
.....but you can’t make it jump ? Anyway, imo, that misleading petition stripped AK of any credibility he had, regarding this subject.
Got a runner at Fontwell tomorrow - 2.50pm , Vorashaan, beautifully bred we bought from the Aga Khan would you believe. Half brother won Dubai World Cup 3 times !!! Anyway, I suspect he is useless to be honest, he has shown nothing so far and definitely not one to back tomorrow. Just hoping he gets round safely and shows a bit more promise following his wind op.
Don't want to jynx it but I'm on a ridiculous purple patch... Had New Mandate yesterday at 12s, Arsenal 3-0 at 16s and have placed or won in every race so far today. Need Pyledriver for 345 quid and Charlton 2-0 for a grand!
3.35 Newmarket......Tempus trained by Roger Charlton (it's a sign I tell you). Seriously, feel this is a group horse running in a handicap and PP going 7 places.
So, will it be a third Arc for Enable today? I think it probably will, but I'm very sweet on In Swoop given the inclement conditions. 25s were available last week and now we're seeing 8s.
So, will it be a third Arc for Enable today? I think it probably will, but I'm very sweet on In Swoop given the inclement conditions. 25s were available last week and now we're seeing 8s.
I think Enable is likely to prevail, especially now the field has been decimated. Magnificent mare. My money is already down on the mighty Stradivarius though and would be delighted if he wins, not just for the winnings but for the horse and his legacy - a fourth Ascot Gold Cup next year would be the icing on the cake and mark him down as the greatest stayer. The great Ardross came so close to winning an Arc.
Mogul .. slightly lighter weight will tell in the wet
Non runner, Lincs. All O’Brien’s are out.
And for the other races, too, after that contaminated feed. Absolutely gutting that - puts a bit of a downer on the day (even though I'm hardly the biggest Coolmore fan).
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Were that the case I'd be on here several times a week and on some days more than once. I don't do that and you know it.
As to looking at things from both sides, I've done that. I have written before on here about doubting not that many proponents of racing have the welfare of the racehorse in mind and act in that regard as well as they can. Yet what I saw, too, is an industry fed by those speculating on an outcome that, each and every time, puts an animal's wellbeing at risk. I saw an industry supported by the rich and the powerful. I saw an industry that was resistant to change.
Some change is happening now. That is largely, I think, a result of the attentions of animal advocates who have shone a spotlight on the BHA.
The moderator doesn't want opposition. He wants everything to be nice and fluffy - as it was, I presume, when there was no view presented that was an alternative to that made hitherto.
The horseracing industry becomes ever-more defensive and the confidence of those who oppose it increases. Change is not offered up willingly. It has to be fought for.
It will take time. But come it shall.
Same old, same old from the self-righteous and authoritarian one. Quelle surprise.... you can lead a horse to water ......
Anyway, I suspect he is useless to be honest, he has shown nothing so far and definitely not one to back tomorrow. Just hoping he gets round safely and shows a bit more promise following his wind op.
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My money is already down on the mighty Stradivarius though and would be delighted if he wins, not just for the winnings but for the horse and his legacy - a fourth Ascot Gold Cup next year would be the icing on the cake and mark him down as the greatest stayer. The great Ardross came so close to winning an Arc.