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I dunno about that. Think Nazeef was unfortunate to hit a flat spot and Crowley had to get going from a long way out, but maybe he could've drawn the whip for encouragement a tad earlier. She wandered around ever so slightly, too.CAFCsayer said:That was an absolutely appalling ride0 -
ITV’s inability to criticise Dettori is nauseating.
The only tweet they showed said English King didn’t travel at all, which is rubbish. FD rode too far off the pace yet again and even when the horse began to pick up he went down the inside which is suicide at Goodwood.2 -
English King isn't a good enough horse. That's not to do with Dettori. But he didn't exactly give him much of a chance.ValleyGary said:ITV’s inability to criticise Dettori is nauseating.
The only tweet they showed said English King didn’t travel at all, which is rubbish. FD rode too far off the pace yet again and even when the horse began to pick up he went down the inside which is suicide at Goodwood.
ITV can't really bring themselves to criticise any aspect of racing: the Derby was give the narrative of a surprise and oddly-run, rather than people laying into all the jockeys (with the exception of Emmet McNamara and Tom Marquand, and Buick to an extent) - who collectively dropped the ball for one of the most important horse races in the calendar. I'd rather see a little bit of bite, but I guess racing is a niche sport and ITV want to promote it as much as possible given there is limited free-to-air coverage.2 -
Isn't it funny how every losing horse is given a terrible ride.0
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I think it’s too early to write off English King. Given two stinking rides by Dettori. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s a different proposition next time out under Marquand.PaddyP17 said:
English King isn't a good enough horse. That's not to do with Dettori. But he didn't exactly give him much of a chance.ValleyGary said:ITV’s inability to criticise Dettori is nauseating.
The only tweet they showed said English King didn’t travel at all, which is rubbish. FD rode too far off the pace yet again and even when the horse began to pick up he went down the inside which is suicide at Goodwood.
ITV can't really bring themselves to criticise any aspect of racing: the Derby was give the narrative of a surprise and oddly-run, rather than people laying into all the jockeys (with the exception of Emmet McNamara and Tom Marquand, and Buick to an extent) - who collectively dropped the ball for one of the most important horse races in the calendar. I'd rather see a little bit of bite, but I guess racing is a niche sport and ITV want to promote it as much as possible given there is limited free-to-air coverage.0 -
The horse was massively over-hyped after Lingfield. That was a very average race.ValleyGary said:
I think it’s too early to write off English King. Given two stinking rides by Dettori. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s a different proposition next time out under Marquand.PaddyP17 said:
English King isn't a good enough horse. That's not to do with Dettori. But he didn't exactly give him much of a chance.ValleyGary said:ITV’s inability to criticise Dettori is nauseating.
The only tweet they showed said English King didn’t travel at all, which is rubbish. FD rode too far off the pace yet again and even when the horse began to pick up he went down the inside which is suicide at Goodwood.
ITV can't really bring themselves to criticise any aspect of racing: the Derby was give the narrative of a surprise and oddly-run, rather than people laying into all the jockeys (with the exception of Emmet McNamara and Tom Marquand, and Buick to an extent) - who collectively dropped the ball for one of the most important horse races in the calendar. I'd rather see a little bit of bite, but I guess racing is a niche sport and ITV want to promote it as much as possible given there is limited free-to-air coverage.0 -
I agree we've seem some poor rides so far at Goodwood, but I think English King is simply overrated.0
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Maybe Marquand will then them where to stick the ride?0
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Not really. I ain’t even had a bet.superclive98 said:Isn't it funny how every losing horse is given a terrible ride.
You honestly think Dettori has got the best out of EK on the last two rides?
One trial victory doesn’t make him a world beater I agree, but jockeys should be open to criticism and I’d be saying the same if it was a Class 6 at Wolverhampton.1 - Sponsored links:
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I miss Channel 4, of the Greatest Jockey & Big Mac era. Like him or loathe him, Big Mac would call out anybody he felt was due criticism, and the authorities. Big proponent of disqualification for abuse of the whip etc.... which I've always supported.PaddyP17 said:
English King isn't a good enough horse. That's not to do with Dettori. But he didn't exactly give him much of a chance.ValleyGary said:ITV’s inability to criticise Dettori is nauseating.
The only tweet they showed said English King didn’t travel at all, which is rubbish. FD rode too far off the pace yet again and even when the horse began to pick up he went down the inside which is suicide at Goodwood.
ITV can't really bring themselves to criticise any aspect of racing: the Derby was give the narrative of a surprise and oddly-run, rather than people laying into all the jockeys (with the exception of Emmet McNamara and Tom Marquand, and Buick to an extent) - who collectively dropped the ball for one of the most important horse races in the calendar. I'd rather see a little bit of bite, but I guess racing is a niche sport and ITV want to promote it as much as possible given there is limited free-to-air coverage.
Just the same old nauseating over-hyping of the top dogs that's common to all sport on TV nowadays.
Cheers for letting me get that off my chest
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I'm in the loathe camp on Big Mac, not least because he used to have a pop at the bookies when being a) a failed one himself, and b) welched on many debts he racked up with them. But I agree, he called a spade a f*cking shovel when needed.PeanutsMolloy said:
I miss Channel 4, of the Greatest Jockey & Big Mac era. Like him or loathe him, Big Mac would call out anybody he felt was due criticism, and the authorities. Big proponent of disqualification for abuse of the whip etc.... which I've always supported.PaddyP17 said:
English King isn't a good enough horse. That's not to do with Dettori. But he didn't exactly give him much of a chance.ValleyGary said:ITV’s inability to criticise Dettori is nauseating.
The only tweet they showed said English King didn’t travel at all, which is rubbish. FD rode too far off the pace yet again and even when the horse began to pick up he went down the inside which is suicide at Goodwood.
ITV can't really bring themselves to criticise any aspect of racing: the Derby was give the narrative of a surprise and oddly-run, rather than people laying into all the jockeys (with the exception of Emmet McNamara and Tom Marquand, and Buick to an extent) - who collectively dropped the ball for one of the most important horse races in the calendar. I'd rather see a little bit of bite, but I guess racing is a niche sport and ITV want to promote it as much as possible given there is limited free-to-air coverage.
Just the same old nauseating over-hyping of the top dogs that's common to all sport on TV nowadays.
Cheers for letting me get that off my chest
As for the Greatest Jockey, well was there ever a man who could read a race better as a commentator? There was never a jockey that could ride a race better, that's for sure. People talk about AP, Ruby et al but neither in my opinion are in the same league in terms of horsemanship than Francome - in my lifetime, and opinion, he was the best jump jockey.3 -
I agree with Bob about Francome. He was peerless at presenting a horse at the obstacle be it hurdle or fence and this was almost certainly down to his early showjumping training.2
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Francome's nephew is Sam Ricketts, Shrewsbury manager and ex decent player .. the Ricketts family has a background in showjumpingStarinnaddick said:I agree with Bob about Francome. He was peerless at presenting a horse at the obstacle be it hurdle or fence and this was almost certainly down to his early showjumping training.0 -
Sorry guys for putting you off - I think he is decent horse but we really didn't expect him to win. Racing is a bloody lottery even when you are an owner. We sent Slade King to Yarmouth a couple of weeks ago confidently expecting a big run and he finished 54 lengths tailed off and then Junkanoo comes in today at 50's. Absolutely unbelievable ( and wonderful and fantastic) I was there and shouted myself hoarse in the final furlong with my mate Trevor who is my co owner. I backed him with small amounts each way at 100-1, 66-1 and 33-1, so I did have a good result. I might spend the next 40 odd days watching the replay rather than checking for the latest Charlton shenanigans. It should make me happier. I guess the handicapper will absolutely clobber us now - but it was worth it !!!15
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If this isn't reversed then no decision will ever be reversed again. Ryan has at least four or five seconds to correct the horse and just allows Tilsit to drift right until he completely hampers the second. Maybe Tilsit wins anyway, but on viewing it without having Ryan's perspective, it's such an unnecessary bit of riding.2
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Right well jockeys can do what they like then0
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Good to see my picks socially distancing at the back.4
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PaddyP17 said:If this isn't reversed then no decision will ever be reversed again. Ryan has at least four or five seconds to correct the horse and just allows Tilsit to drift right until he completely hampers the second. Maybe Tilsit wins anyway, but on viewing it without having Ryan's perspective, it's such an unnecessary bit of riding.
Ryan Moore was almost asking to be disqualified in the stewards enquiry.
I hear Rab Havlin got off with his recent riding offence on appeal and that was far worse than today's horror show.
They will wait for a jockey to die, then they will do something about it.
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Melburnian at Galway 17:15 Each Way 8/1
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https://twitter.com/racingpost/status/1288819622607753216?s=21Guys here is the commentary from the racing post tipster who obviously backed my horse on Thursday- it’s bloody funny and not surprisingly I love it !!!5
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Deauville 4.35 today - A Dance to Dawn (EW) - currently around 14/1 - 16/1
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'Invested' a fiver (not on free sex foive lol)bobmunro said:Deauville 4.35 today - A Dance to Dawn (EW) - currently around 14/1 - 16/10 -
This is sad. Would have won a G1 at some point in the future IMO, in all probability. RIP Sceptical.
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So gutting for everyone involved with him. Really sad.
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rakhine state 17.50 stratford, trainer expecting a huge run, have a freind whos uncle is part of owners group that owns it, its around 8/1 ive stuck a score on it3
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Just got 9/1 with bet3650
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11s on the exchange, just jumped on0
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That was the text I received - I know it’s carrying top weight and I always like to pass tips on if I get them.I had one the other week off him dismissed it and it was a beaten by a neck at 66/10 -
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