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  • ryan moore bookies best pal

    loses on red hot faves
    and beats red hot faves

    crystal ocean - best horse in the world apparently - that title belongs to enable on the flat. 
    Completely agree. Not sure why Enable was rated lower.
  • Getting 3lbs from Crystal Ocean at Ascot
    Drop in trip, ground and savage race at Ascot meant didn't run to form today imo
  • PaddyP17 said:

    4.15 - I'm taking a chance on Rare Groove (14/1, 1/5 1-5 various) with Jedd O'Keefe in such good form. Needs a bit more than last time out but I can see it happening. Eddystone Rock is a huge shout given both recent form and success in previous years (2017 1m4f handicap win at the Ebor springs to mind), while I think at 40/1 both Claire Underwood and Aircraft Carrier can outrun odds, with some firms paying 5 places.
    Neck away from my main shouts being proper, but at least I still tickled on Eddystone Rock. Sigh. Still not a great day though.
  • I don't like flat racing, horses are so unpredictable, Jumps is much better
  • had a little go again today;

    1.55 liberty beach - money back if 2nd sky bet
    2.25 rayong
    3.00 firmanent ew 
    3.35 enable - expect to win v comfortably no bet 
    4.15 frankelina
    4.50 breathtaking look ew & starlight romance ew
  • 1.55 - Under The Stars @ 4/1, Precious Moments is not a bad shout e/w
    2.25 - Rayong/National League e/w
    3.00 - Silver Line e/w
    3.35 - no bet, just want Enable to do the business. She's a superstar.
    4.15 - Vivionn, maybe Bella Vita e/w
    4.50 - Warning Fire e/w
  • Buy the Favourites index on the spreads at York today at 64
  • i THINK Mums Tipple might have just nicked that one.
  • i THINK Mums Tipple might have just nicked that one.
    That was nuts. Eleven lengths!!!


  • Quite right as well. He had absolutely zero need to use it.
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  • And that's a lovely prep for the Arc for Enable. She's been beautiful to watch in her career.
  • PaddyP17 said:
    And that's a lovely prep for the Arc for Enable. She's been beautiful to watch in her career.
    What a day. I haven’t been close to a winner but that doesn’t matter - I was in the paddock with Kerry Lee with a couple of trainers badges - we blagged it really. If you were watching, Kerry was the one in bright pink next to a handsome guy! Up close with Enable and Frankie. Gosden and O’Brien. 

    Enable knows how how good she is - a real diva. But what a magnificent mare. 
  • I’ve suddenly got the rest of the afternoon off work so just about to settle down and watch ITV, looking forward to watching Stradivarius!
  • edited August 2019
    2 things certain in life

    Death
    Stradivarius wins 


    What a horse Strad is
  • That was immense from Battaash, too.

    Had the Stradivarius, Threat and Battaash treble (very sorry to dat and not tip), as a nicely sized free bet. Pays for a cheeky drink.
  • Incredible from Battaash
  • That is very sad.

    Off to Goodwood tomorrow on a stag. Never been there before so looking forward to it. Really fancy Skardu.
  • Keep safe, hang on to its antlers.
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  • Can anyone recommend a useful hints & pointers site/app?
    ive had a bit of recent success looking at and backing some longest travellers recently (cue barren spell) but both yesterday and today, the 365 and skybet  sites are giving names of horses that aren’t due to run?
  • Can anyone recommend a useful hints & pointers site/app?
    ive had a bit of recent success looking at and backing some longest travellers recently (cue barren spell) but both yesterday and today, the 365 and skybet  sites are giving names of horses that aren’t due to run?
    Tipping service or for racecards?

    If the latter then Sporting Life and ATR are still your best ports of call. If the former, then there's several good free ones - off the top of my head:

    http://2ptsw.in/
    https://twitter.com/profprofitable
    https://twitter.com/OTTR_Elliot

    I recommend the Northern Gamblers podcast as well, and then the likes of Rory Delargy; Ben Linfoot; Hugh Taylor (though prices collapse when he backs something); and Simon Rowlands (sectionals/times guru) are probably my favourite racing guys to follow.
  • How's this for horse racing shooting itself in the foot?

    In the Ripon 2.30 Amity Island is 1st past the post and beats Knightly Spirit by a nose. Following  a Steward's Enquiry the placings are reversed.

    However, the jockey on Amity Island receives no punishment because any interference is deemed accidental whereas the pilot on Knightly Spirit receives a 2 day ban for using his whip above the permitted level.

    So we have a situation where the result is altered for something that was accidental whereas connections of the ultimate winner have been rewarded for deliberately breaking the rules via the actions of the jockey employed by them.
    I don't see an issue here despite, on the face of it, slightly contradictory.  The whip rule is purely welfare of the horse, whether it made the difference to winning or not is subjective.  They can't punish the trainer or the punter, only the Jockey
  • PaddyP17 said:
    Can anyone recommend a useful hints & pointers site/app?
    ive had a bit of recent success looking at and backing some longest travellers recently (cue barren spell) but both yesterday and today, the 365 and skybet  sites are giving names of horses that aren’t due to run?
    Tipping service or for racecards?

    If the latter then Sporting Life and ATR are still your best ports of call. If the former, then there's several good free ones - off the top of my head:

    http://2ptsw.in/
    https://twitter.com/profprofitable
    https://twitter.com/OTTR_Elliot

    I recommend the Northern Gamblers podcast as well, and then the likes of Rory Delargy; Ben Linfoot; Hugh Taylor (though prices collapse when he backs something); and Simon Rowlands (sectionals/times guru) are probably my favourite racing guys to follow.
    You get me on the Northern Gamblers podcast from time to time too!
  • PaddyP17 said:
    Can anyone recommend a useful hints & pointers site/app?
    ive had a bit of recent success looking at and backing some longest travellers recently (cue barren spell) but both yesterday and today, the 365 and skybet  sites are giving names of horses that aren’t due to run?
    Tipping service or for racecards?

    If the latter then Sporting Life and ATR are still your best ports of call. If the former, then there's several good free ones - off the top of my head:

    http://2ptsw.in/
    https://twitter.com/profprofitable
    https://twitter.com/OTTR_Elliot

    I recommend the Northern Gamblers podcast as well, and then the likes of Rory Delargy; Ben Linfoot; Hugh Taylor (though prices collapse when he backs something); and Simon Rowlands (sectionals/times guru) are probably my favourite racing guys to follow.
    You get me on the Northern Gamblers podcast from time to time too!
    And here: https://twitter.com/polzeathratings?lang=en 
  • PaddyP17 said:
    Can anyone recommend a useful hints & pointers site/app?
    ive had a bit of recent success looking at and backing some longest travellers recently (cue barren spell) but both yesterday and today, the 365 and skybet  sites are giving names of horses that aren’t due to run?
    Tipping service or for racecards?

    If the latter then Sporting Life and ATR are still your best ports of call. If the former, then there's several good free ones - off the top of my head:

    http://2ptsw.in/
    https://twitter.com/profprofitable
    https://twitter.com/OTTR_Elliot

    I recommend the Northern Gamblers podcast as well, and then the likes of Rory Delargy; Ben Linfoot; Hugh Taylor (though prices collapse when he backs something); and Simon Rowlands (sectionals/times guru) are probably my favourite racing guys to follow.
    Not after tipping.
    just confused as to why skysports and 365 are giving the 3 longest travellers today yet they aren’t on the racecards.
    was the same yesterday.
    http://bet365.365dm.com/racing/form/pointers

    https://www.skysports.com/racing/hints-and-pointers/today
  • edited September 2019
    How's this for horse racing shooting itself in the foot?

    In the Ripon 2.30 Amity Island is 1st past the post and beats Knightly Spirit by a nose. Following  a Steward's Enquiry the placings are reversed.

    However, the jockey on Amity Island receives no punishment because any interference is deemed accidental whereas the pilot on Knightly Spirit receives a 2 day ban for using his whip above the permitted level.

    So we have a situation where the result is altered for something that was accidental whereas connections of the ultimate winner have been rewarded for deliberately breaking the rules via the actions of the jockey employed by them.
    I don't see an issue here despite, on the face of it, slightly contradictory.  The whip rule is purely welfare of the horse, whether it made the difference to winning or not is subjective.  They can't punish the trainer or the punter, only the Jockey
    It is called "the persuader" for a reason. And the extra or, as in this case, higher crack of the whip might have been the one that made the difference. The ruling of the Stewards is purely subjective as they cannot definitively prove that interference made a difference.

    It is uncanny how many times top jockeys receive bans at big meetings (or when the money is down). There is a reason for that. 
  • How's this for horse racing shooting itself in the foot?

    In the Ripon 2.30 Amity Island is 1st past the post and beats Knightly Spirit by a nose. Following  a Steward's Enquiry the placings are reversed.

    However, the jockey on Amity Island receives no punishment because any interference is deemed accidental whereas the pilot on Knightly Spirit receives a 2 day ban for using his whip above the permitted level.

    So we have a situation where the result is altered for something that was accidental whereas connections of the ultimate winner have been rewarded for deliberately breaking the rules via the actions of the jockey employed by them.
    I don't see an issue here despite, on the face of it, slightly contradictory.  The whip rule is purely welfare of the horse, whether it made the difference to winning or not is subjective.  They can't punish the trainer or the punter, only the Jockey
    It is called "the persuader" for a reason. And the extra or, as in this case, higher crack of the whip might have been the one that made the difference. The ruling of the Stewards is purely subjective as they cannot definitively prove that interference made a difference.

    It is uncanny how many times top jockeys receive bans at big meetings (or when the money is down). There is a reason for that. 
    it's quite rare for stewards to reverse placings so usually it would be an obvious call

    You can't punish the punter if a horse has won fair and square but the jockey was a little over exuberant with the whip.  The rule is solely for the welfare of horses and entirely down to the jockey if abused
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