I've known 3 or 4 people who were professionals or very good semi pro's. They all seemed to have a similar opinion of managers, in that 90% of what they do is common to all of them, it's that other 10% that makes the difference. Also, more pertinent to this discussion, they all said it's knowing which players respond to a bollocking and which ones need an arm around the shoulders. I'd say judging this bit wrong leads to players downing tools more than anything else.
I'm astounded at how many people, on here and WhatsApp found this shocking.
Its shocking by todays standard of working life in an office I'll guess but working for groundwork foremen in the nineties this sort of behaviour was ticked off by 9am most days and was considered meek. Even going past the 90s I've witnessed a thousand times worse than that at work.
Football is changing but I can't imagine for one second managers don't throw their toys out of the pram at players who aren't doing what is being asked, assuming this was in the middle of last season when they were getting pumped most weeks you'd expect some stuff like this. Imagine Neil Warnock watching the reaction to this and giggling his tits off into his evening glass of Tetleys
I doubt its come out of nowhere but a lot of over-acting for the camera for sure, squaring up to a playing calling him big boy like you're offering him 3 rounds
"Quit your moaning, im sick of it" "What have I moaned about today?" "..." "Your body language is Sh!t!"
Looks like Kompany’s playing up for the cameras to me. If anyone’s watched Welcome to Wrexham, Parky is constantly shouting and swearing, yet I dont remember him being remotely like that when he was with us and no cameras were around.
Didn't Parky nearly have/had a punch up with a Southampton manager, French guy I think.
Looks like Kompany’s playing up for the cameras to me. If anyone’s watched Welcome to Wrexham, Parky is constantly shouting and swearing, yet I dont remember him being remotely like that when he was with us and no cameras were around.
Didn't Parky nearly have/had a punch up with a Southampton manager, French guy I think.
Dutch manager - Mark Wotte. Parkinson had his jumper and tie on so Wotte backed down.
Looks like Kompany’s playing up for the cameras to me. If anyone’s watched Welcome to Wrexham, Parky is constantly shouting and swearing, yet I dont remember him being remotely like that when he was with us and no cameras were around.
You say that but I get the feeling Parky isn't comfortable around the camera at all. Doesn't seem like a guy who would want any more attention than necessary. He probably is just a bit like that.
When JBG strolls off before VK has a pop, he didn't look bothered.
Kompany has a job to do and he needs the players motivated and you get tunes out of people in different ways.
BUT in saying that, people just clash and don't get on which is the most likely case here. We just see that little bit but no idea of the full extent of things.
Looks like Kompany’s playing up for the cameras to me. If anyone’s watched Welcome to Wrexham, Parky is constantly shouting and swearing, yet I dont remember him being remotely like that when he was with us and no cameras were around.
You say that but I get the feeling Parky isn't comfortable around the camera at all. Doesn't seem like a guy who would want any more attention than necessary. He probably is just a bit like that.
In the show they portrayed him as a reluctant manager, someone who wants to work on bringing the club back up but not someone interested in the media side of it. They had a scene where Rob McElhenney spent an hour on the phone convincing him to come. I got to know the producer of the show when we worked alongside their doc, and he said the entire thing was fabricated, that Parkinson jumped at the opportunity and has no issues with the access the doc team needed. There wasn't even a phone call. It was this kind of stuff that put my friend off working on it. It's a little too contrived and he eventually quit.
Although that said, I met Parkinson when I was filming him and he was a miserable git! I asked him for an interview, he said yes and then ran off after the game!
As for all the angry manager stuff - I wouldn't assume anyone is playing up for the camera. In my experience, when the cameras have been around for a while, people forget they're there. Especially during training when they're at a distance. The cameras are rolling for hundreds of hours so they meld into the background.
And sometimes I think the crazier stuff doesn't happen when the cameras ARE rolling - I've missed three crazy incidents that I don't think would have occurred had I been there to film them. The clip of Kompany is pretty close to what I see every time my lot do their playing patterns. Hell I saw some maniacal shouting just a couple of hours ago!
People would be horrified at Alex Ferguson and Brian Clough these days.
Not allowed to have a pop at anyone these days mate. If they don't do their job properly that's fine. In fact, it's your problem - you must be doing something wrong for not making them realise they are supposed to put in some effort.
People would be horrified at Alex Ferguson and Brian Clough these days.
Brian Clough punched Roy Keane. That may explain why Keane turned out the way he did and committed ABH/GBH on Alfie Haaland years later when he was at United.
It ridiculous to say you can't dig 1st team players out now but thank fuck players aren't punched or managers like Ferguson can't smash a boot that cuts Beckham eye.
Keane doesn't seem to have much time for Ferguson now. I guess he feels he was used by the Jock to be his enforcer.
If your a manager, the slackers don't get picked in the 18. I assume that's why Charlie Kirk struggled to make the squad as his effort and body language was as bad in training as in matches when he did play.
Weird one to leave, re-sign, and then leave again.
His agent must've done quite well out of that little mess
And for Burnley and him. Their Chairman "come back, see how it goes but we'll put you in the shop window and won't stand in your way if a sensible offer comes in for you". At 33 he had the underpin of a guaranteed contract too.
Johann scored a cracking right foot goal in his last game for Burnley in their 5-0 win against Cardiff.
His best goal for CAFC was at the Covered end against Cardiff.
A high Championship quality player who had several season in the Premier in a struggling team.
Johann Berg Gudmundsson was definitely one of the better signings for CAFC, 10 years ago. Didn't have much pace but made a success of being an inverted wide man. 16 goals in 81 games CAFC and 15 goals in 200 games for Burnley.
93 games for Iceland and the Man united fan has had a good career and I can only assume this will be his nest egg as he draws a line in the sand at Al-Orobah, where other than Duarte Roche, the Brazilian, all the Squad appear to be Arabic lads.
Only just seen that he signed for a team in the Saudi League. Hope he's got a decent contract out of it now he's ending towards the close of his playing career.
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Its shocking by todays standard of working life in an office I'll guess but working for groundwork foremen in the nineties this sort of behaviour was ticked off by 9am most days and was considered meek. Even going past the 90s I've witnessed a thousand times worse than that at work.
Football is changing but I can't imagine for one second managers don't throw their toys out of the pram at players who aren't doing what is being asked, assuming this was in the middle of last season when they were getting pumped most weeks you'd expect some stuff like this. Imagine Neil Warnock watching the reaction to this and giggling his tits off into his evening glass of Tetleys
"Quit your moaning, im sick of it"
"What have I moaned about today?"
"..."
"Your body language is Sh!t!"
Kompany has a job to do and he needs the players motivated and you get tunes out of people in different ways.
BUT in saying that, people just clash and don't get on which is the most likely case here. We just see that little bit but no idea of the full extent of things.
Although that said, I met Parkinson when I was filming him and he was a miserable git! I asked him for an interview, he said yes and then ran off after the game!
As for all the angry manager stuff - I wouldn't assume anyone is playing up for the camera. In my experience, when the cameras have been around for a while, people forget they're there. Especially during training when they're at a distance. The cameras are rolling for hundreds of hours so they meld into the background.
And sometimes I think the crazier stuff doesn't happen when the cameras ARE rolling - I've missed three crazy incidents that I don't think would have occurred had I been there to film them. The clip of Kompany is pretty close to what I see every time my lot do their playing patterns. Hell I saw some maniacal shouting just a couple of hours ago!
Brian Clough punched Roy Keane.
That may explain why Keane turned out the way he did and committed ABH/GBH on Alfie Haaland years later when he was at United.
It ridiculous to say you can't dig 1st team players out now but thank fuck players aren't punched or managers like Ferguson can't smash a boot that cuts Beckham eye.
Keane doesn't seem to have much time for Ferguson now. I guess he feels he was used by the Jock to be his enforcer.
If your a manager, the slackers don't get picked in the 18.
I assume that's why Charlie Kirk struggled to make the squad as his effort and body language was as bad in training as in matches when he did play.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyw0x278r1o
His best goal for CAFC was at the Covered end against Cardiff.
A high Championship quality player who had several season in the Premier in a struggling team.
Johann Berg Gudmundsson was definitely one of the better signings for CAFC, 10 years ago.
Didn't have much pace but made a success of being an inverted wide man.
16 goals in 81 games CAFC and 15 goals in 200 games for Burnley.
93 games for Iceland and the Man united fan has had a good career and I can only assume this will be his nest egg as he draws a line in the sand at Al-Orobah, where other than Duarte Roche, the Brazilian, all the Squad appear to be Arabic lads.