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  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,140
    JBG is a class player, no doubt about it, but I'm not sure he's done quite enough yet to earn a move to the Premier League. He's bound to attract interest from the Championship sides with promotion aspirations and the benefit of parachute money but hopefully we can persuade him to sign an extension with us, even if it's only for an additional year. If he isn't prepared to do that, I suspect that RD won't be prepared to let him run into the last year of his contract and will look to cash in. That would be disappointing but a reasonable course of action for the club to adopt.

    I suspect the article in the Football League Paper is complete speculation and the only question in my mind is whether and to what extent JBG's agent has encouraged it. The reference to Nottingham Forest is particularly ridiculous, as they have no chance of promotion via the play-offs, are currently subject to a transfer embargo and failed in February to make an instalment payment due to Peterborough for Assombalonga (they subsequently coughed the money up after a full transfer ban was imposed).

    Let's hope that we can pick up a couple of good players in the summer and generate an attractive narrative for JBG, our other good players and, of course, for our supporters.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    edited April 2015
    Easily a mid table prem player.
    I was hoping for a Gud free kick at the tool Box on Friday
    I can't see him hanging round after this season.
  • Out of interest, what sort of price would the club expect to get for JBG should he be sold? Still young and will score goals, but only year left on his contract. If there were multiple Prem teams interested then I reckon it could be close to £4mil.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Johann Berg Gudmundsson
    £5.9mil for left foot + 100K for right foot.

    Can only be sold as a pair !
  • Johann Berg Gudmundsson
    £5.9mil for left foot + 100K for right foot.

    Can only be sold as a pair !

    6 million then

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Two year contract.
    One year left.
    Massive TV deal for premiership clubs.
    How much did we pay? (did we pay?)
    Six million minimum I would have thought, plus achievement bonuses, plus 20% of any profit.
    Makes sense to me.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    The contract situation is going to be the issue. I am guessing we offered him longer but he wouldn't consider it as we were probably viewed as a stepping stone to the Premier League.

    He would be perfect for an established mid table premiership club. He'd fit in very well at somewhere like Swansea.

    I don't believe he'll sign a new contract with us and I don't believe Roland will want him to go on a freebie, so the outcome is inevitable.

    Reckon he'll be gone in the summer.
  • I think he might be gone in the summer too but I still don't think he is a rounded enough player to get regular games in the PL. Still. Sitting on your hands earning 40k a week will no doubt do the talking.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    He played for Dick Advocaat at AZ .A possible signing for the Mackems ?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    he's possibly our best attacking midfielder since reid, but for a few million bob and if the network have a replacement lined up then thanks guddy! If he wasn't so ridiculously one footed he'd easily be a prem player now

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  • kevtherev
    kevtherev Posts: 651
    One footed never done C. Jenson any harm!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,897
    The fact that he only signed a 2 year contract showed that his stay was never likely to be a long term one unless we got promotion, and I've got no problem selling him if we get a good fee, it's not like we've nurtured him, and he's part of the fabric of the club.
    He's the sort of player who will attract a good fee, as his youtube highlights reel will be packed full of great free kicks and long range efforts.
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,114

    TBH, dont think he's quite got enough for the Prem.

    Well Chelsea and Bolton seemed to think he did.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    Look at some of the players in the squads of Sunderland, Burnley, Swansea, Stoke, Hull etc.

    Gudmundsson is definitely capable of being in one of those clubs.
  • dingdong
    dingdong Posts: 84
    Why is everyone so negative about him going he's got another year left and who knows perhaps they will offer him an extension
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    dingdong said:

    Why is everyone so negative about him going he's got another year left and who knows perhaps they will offer him an extension

    I'm sure they will, but will he sign it?
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,828
    I think he's more suited to other leagues. Lacks pace and a right peg (cue Wigan away assist highlights). Don't get me wrong, I think he's been fantastic for us and I am not slagging him off !
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    edited April 2015
    The thing is..., (and this is the important bit), Its not CAFC getting any fee, its the network, and Roland may need to balance the books.
  • I'm sure that JBG signing a new contract would very much depend on a significant salary increase. Is that really Roland's way ? I think it far more likely RD will want to cash in and bring in another potential bargain.

    For me it's really all about the standard of his replacement. I do feel confident in saying that whoever it might be won't be the finished article.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,102

    I'm sure that JBG signing a new contract would very much depend on a significant salary increase. Is that really Roland's way ? I think it far more likely RD will want to cash in and bring in another potential bargain.

    For me it's really all about the standard of his replacement. I do feel confident in saying that whoever it might be won't be the finished article.

    I'll be pretty annoyed if we were to get rid of him.

    You keep your better players, but everyone has their price I suppose.

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  • I'm sure that JBG signing a new contract would very much depend on a significant salary increase. Is that really Roland's way ? I think it far more likely RD will want to cash in and bring in another potential bargain.

    For me it's really all about the standard of his replacement. I do feel confident in saying that whoever it might be won't be the finished article.

    I'll be pretty annoyed if we were to get rid of him.

    You keep your better players, but everyone has their price I suppose.
    In an ideal situation we keep our quality and add to it. Try to get top six in a year or two. I'm not convinced that's important to RD. I suspect he wants to prove you can run a football club and not lose shed loads of money yet still be competitive. Only way that can work is by buying cheap selling high or produce your own stars and sell them on. What's happened so far doesn't make me think I'm wrong. His network allows him the possibility of moving players around to suit and even allows him a punt or two. (Polish Pete) that might not come off but can still be utilised within "the family".

    I think that every season we can expect significant squad change and I don't see anything to suggest a plan to build slowly retaining our very best and adding slowly. I believe it's all about the business and Roland's experiment and not necessarily about the end result of the football.

    Some nut on here mentioned a bumpy ride. I think he's spot on.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,102

    I'm sure that JBG signing a new contract would very much depend on a significant salary increase. Is that really Roland's way ? I think it far more likely RD will want to cash in and bring in another potential bargain.

    For me it's really all about the standard of his replacement. I do feel confident in saying that whoever it might be won't be the finished article.

    I'll be pretty annoyed if we were to get rid of him.

    You keep your better players, but everyone has their price I suppose.
    In an ideal situation we keep our quality and add to it. Try to get top six in a year or two. I'm not convinced that's important to RD. I suspect he wants to prove you can run a football club and not lose shed loads of money yet still be competitive. Only way that can work is by buying cheap selling high or produce your own stars and sell them on. What's happened so far doesn't make me think I'm wrong. His network allows him the possibility of moving players around to suit and even allows him a punt or two. (Polish Pete) that might not come off but can still be utilised within "the family".

    I think that every season we can expect significant squad change and I don't see anything to suggest a plan to build slowly retaining our very best and adding slowly. I believe it's all about the business and Roland's experiment and not necessarily about the end result of the football.

    Some nut on here mentioned a bumpy ride. I think he's spot on.

    ....with us seeing a relegation if I was a betting man.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    JBG plays for us, but the question is, is he our player. If he is essentially a staprix asset then things are different to the usual.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,140
    Excellent news from the ever reliable Dr Kish - "Gudmundsson is happy at The Valley and preliminary talks have already taken place about extending his deal, which expires at the end of next season."

    http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201504&date=20150410&time=0751

    If he signs an extension, that would be a real statement of intent for next season. This team has quality and with a few astute additions, we can really challenge next season.
  • Agree he will probably have Prem ambitions, but not so sure he would be looking to jump ship so soon. Out of all the new foreign recruits last Summer, he seemed to be pleased to be here, mixing with his team mates and generally having the appearance of someone happy in their surroundings the quickest. He has good rapport with the fans on social media and celebrates each goal with passion and enthusiasm.

    As a further point, not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere, Jacko tweeted yday regarding his football academy and thanked JBG for coming down and making an appearance, meeting the kids etc. He seems a good guy and clearly good mates with the skip to come down and help him out. I hope he remains a CAFC player next year and from the outside, I think he seems settled at the club despite all these media reports about seeking a move
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    Good news. Get him signed up!!
  • cafcinse6
    cafcinse6 Posts: 59
    Surely a better strategy for RD would be to sign JBG up to an improved contract similar to how Spurs and Liverpool handled Bale and Suarez. Didn't both sign up to long term contracts and then leave less than 12 months into the contract? That way the player is happy at a higher salary and we cannot be ransomed into selling him off to cheaply if he is tied to a long term contract.

    Out of interest does anyone know how much JBG is on and how much they would expect we have to pay him for him to stay?
  • gilbertfilbert
    gilbertfilbert Posts: 2,282
    cafcinse6 said:

    Surely a better strategy for RD would be to sign JBG up to an improved contract similar to how Spurs and Liverpool handled Bale and Suarez. Didn't both sign up to long term contracts and then leave less than 12 months into the contract? That way the player is happy at a higher salary and we cannot be ransomed into selling him off to cheaply if he is tied to a long term contract.

    Out of interest does anyone know how much JBG is on and how much they would expect we have to pay him for him to stay?

    No. None of us know.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,018
    Blucher said:

    Excellent news from the ever reliable Dr Kish - "Gudmundsson is happy at The Valley and preliminary talks have already taken place about extending his deal, which expires at the end of next season."

    http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201504&date=20150410&time=0751

    If he signs an extension, that would be a real statement of intent for next season. This team has quality and with a few astute additions, we can really challenge next season.

    This would be a very positive sign
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,114
    Very positive.