It is difficult to talk about worst ever players without considering the context - for example any player only on the fringe of the squad in the League One seasons would by definition be amongst the worst players in recent memory.
Conversely the likes of Shaun Bartlett, Bryan Hughes and Dennis Rommedahl were (for me) extremely limited relative to the level they were being asked to perform at, yet superior to virtually any player in today's squad.
i agree that this is a difficult process. For example, not too many of us watched the mike small legendary performance for us, but that brief showing was so poor that he has to be nailed on for the eleven. I wouldn't include Bartlett though. How can you, when he scored the goal of the season in the top flight?
It is difficult to talk about worst ever players without considering the context - for example any player only on the fringe of the squad in the League One seasons would by definition be amongst the worst players in recent memory.
Conversely the likes of Shaun Bartlett, Bryan Hughes and Dennis Rommedahl were (for me) extremely limited relative to the level they were being asked to perform at, yet superior to virtually any player in today's squad.
Trust you to bring some sense and reflection for this thread!
I keep seeing Hugh McCauley's name crop up on threads like this but from memory I actually liked him. Is it because he was Pee Wee's replacement on the wing? Or was he really that bad?
If we are going to play a front three then it has to be Mark McCammon, Johnny Østergaard and Frank Nouble.
Somewhat unrealistic I know if only for the fact that they wouldn't all be able to turn at the same time for fear of bumping into each other on the somewhat small Valley pitch.
I remember being excited when our two foreign recruits Viggo Jacobsen and Østergaard arrived. I couldn't understand why they weren't regulars as they were foreign so, by definition, they had to be good. It took me a while to work it out by which time they were on their way.
I keep seeing Hugh McCauley's name crop up on threads like this but from memory I actually liked him. Is it because he was Pee Wee's replacement on the wing? Or was he really that bad?
Hugh wasn't our greatest winger, but he was Okish from memory.
If we are going to play a front three then it has to be Mark McCammon, Johnny Østergaard and Frank Nouble.
Somewhat unrealistic I know if only for the fact that they wouldn't all be able to turn at the same time for fear of bumping into each other on the somewhat small Valley pitch.
I remember being excited when our two foreign recruits Viggo Jacobsen and Østergaard arrived. I couldn't understand why they weren't regulars as they were foreign so, by definition, they had to be good. It took me a while to work it out by which time they were on their way.
Good shout. Jacobsen brought a new dimension to the term "lightweight", while Ostergaard was in the wrong sport - he was actually a Danish ice-hockey international.
Petterson (just watch 98/99 season review, hardly saved anything); Traore (started badly by getting sent off, then injured, then poor performances then sold) El Khalej (Just terrible) Tiler (might be harsh but i never rated him.) Thatcher (steady player but total liability especially against Blackburn); Redfearn (a good player going forward but asked to play defensively hence his poor performances) Bart-Williams (Was not good enough when he joined, didn’t hold down a place) Faye (Started great then seemed to get worse and worse); JFH (one season too far in the premiership sadly for us) S. Jones (not a premiership striker, played a lot in 98/99 and only scored one goal) M. Bent (started well but didnt score goals or create or seem to do much in a game)
Honourable mentions to: Omar Pouso, Jesper Blomqvist, Post 2001 Matt Svensson
A worst eleven from players who were more than "fleeting" such as Hovi, El Khalej etc. The players in my eleven reached double figures in terms of appearances I think and if it transpires that any of them didn't it certainly felt like it at the time!
Bellotti ( harsh but goalkeeper is one position we've been relatively well served in my 50 years of support)
Friar
Hazell
Setters
Ferns
Carl Harris (controversial maybe but I never took to him and thought he was poor)
Churchouse
Bullivant (expensive by our standards but Charlie rap)
I know it's an old chestnut, but I never tire of ridiculing Mike Small. That game at the New Den - he'd still be lumbering to get back onside as we were mounting our next attack...
I keep seeing Hugh McCauley's name crop up on threads like this but from memory I actually liked him. Is it because he was Pee Wee's replacement on the wing? Or was he really that bad?
He had one good game against Spurs in 1977 but that was it ...
From the late 60s, remember the ponderous Jack Burkett at left back and lightning winger Paul Hince, who couldn't run actually with the ball?
We shouldn't confuse hard working players who were giving their best to play in a division above their level, with those hopelessly out of their depth.
From the late 60s, remember the ponderous Jack Burkett at left back and lightning winger Paul Hince, who couldn't run actually with the ball?
We shouldn't confuse hard working players who were giving their best to play in a division above their level, with those hopelessly out of their depth.
I thought of both of those names Oggy but wasn't sure if they passed my self-imposed 10 game rule, Burkett in particular.
If Hince did he really ought to go into my X1 ahead of Carl Harris because he was indeed truly awful.
Hope all is well with you and that that bloke running around with a gun in your neck of the woods today keeps out of your way!
I remember Carl Harris having some great games, Len - particularly remember his great mazy run and finish to score our winner at Leeds in 1980 something.
The gunman incident seems a bit of a domestic by all accounts - it's not my patch but not that far away, near Looe. We're not used to this down here in Sunny Cornwall.
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That goalkeeper Mullery bought .
I wouldn't include Bartlett though. How can you, when he scored the goal of the season in the top flight?
Goalkeeper: Yohann Thuram
Left-Back: Djimi Traore
Centre-Back: Gary Doherty
Centre-Back: Talal El-Khalej
Right-Back: Simon Francis
Right-Midfield: Tom Soares
Centre-Midfield: Omar Pouso
Centre-Midfield: Amdy Faye
Left-Midfield: Scott Sinclair
Striker: Frank Nouble
Striker: Pawel Abbott
Honourable Mention to: Keith Gillespie.. Gary Borrowdale
Peter Shaw
Jesper Blomqvist
Neil Redfearn
Butterfield Doc El Kalej Spector
McOxo Soares Faye
McCammon Abbott Small
Somewhat unrealistic I know if only for the fact that they wouldn't all be able to turn at the same time for fear of bumping into each other on the somewhat small Valley pitch.
I remember being excited when our two foreign recruits Viggo Jacobsen and Østergaard arrived. I couldn't understand why they weren't regulars as they were foreign so, by definition, they had to be good. It took me a while to work it out by which time they were on their way.
Petterson (just watch 98/99 season review, hardly saved anything);
Traore (started badly by getting sent off, then injured, then poor performances then sold)
El Khalej (Just terrible)
Tiler (might be harsh but i never rated him.)
Thatcher (steady player but total liability especially against Blackburn);
Redfearn (a good player going forward but asked to play defensively hence his poor performances)
Bart-Williams (Was not good enough when he joined, didn’t hold down a place)
Faye (Started great then seemed to get worse and worse);
JFH (one season too far in the premiership sadly for us)
S. Jones (not a premiership striker, played a lot in 98/99 and only scored one goal)
M. Bent (started well but didnt score goals or create or seem to do much in a game)
Honourable mentions to: Omar Pouso, Jesper Blomqvist, Post 2001 Matt Svensson
A worst eleven from players who were more than "fleeting" such as Hovi, El Khalej etc. The players in my eleven reached double figures in terms of appearances I think and if it transpires that any of them didn't it certainly felt like it at the time!
Bellotti ( harsh but goalkeeper is one position we've been relatively well served in my 50 years of support)
Friar
Hazell
Setters
Ferns
Carl Harris (controversial maybe but I never took to him and thought he was poor)
Churchouse
Bullivant (expensive by our standards but Charlie rap)
Lee Cook
Endean
Wilson (Richard)
Tomorrow it will be different....
Francis
Traore
Doherty
McCarthy
Milne
Faye
Bacon
Blomqvist
Nouble
Abbott
From the late 60s, remember the ponderous Jack Burkett at left back and lightning winger Paul Hince, who couldn't run actually with the ball?
We shouldn't confuse hard working players who were giving their best to play in a division above their level, with those hopelessly out of their depth.
If Hince did he really ought to go into my X1 ahead of Carl Harris because he was indeed truly awful.
Hope all is well with you and that that bloke running around with a gun in your neck of the woods today keeps out of your way!
The gunman incident seems a bit of a domestic by all accounts - it's not my patch but not that far away, near Looe.
We're not used to this down here in Sunny Cornwall.