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(Belgian) Bob Peeters *CONFIRMED New Head Coach (pg 37)*

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  • MSE7
    MSE7 Posts: 1,345
    edited May 2014

    He spells how he wants, he spells how he wants, MSE7! He spells how he wants

    Yeah you no that. I am the A block General show me some respect!!!. I don't care what team you come from. You ain't moving us in A block...

    WE SHALL NOT WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!

  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Yes dear.
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,272
    One or two have mentioned the main issue. Its not the manager. If the players recruited in are not of sufficient standard for this level of football, it will be bottom three irrespective of who the manager is..

    Where are these players coming from? The other network clubs are below Championship level and will not provide players of sufficient quality. ( If there is a player good enough, It is assumed the no.1 club in the network has first dibs anyway). So are they coming from English clubs? On the recommendation of who? Phil Chapple? It won't be the new manager, unless he has been nipping across the channel on scouting missions. This other group of lap-top scouts won't have a scooby on how a player fits in or whether they have the character to play at Rotherham or Cardiff when the crowd is on top. Stats don't tell you that.

    Over to RD & RM then, they'd better make sure they or their scouts get the required level of player into the squad, unlike the previous window, otherwise it will be a long hard winter. The pressure is on them.

    I think RD has a real problem. He's bought a club for £14mill that is below the level of SL, but well above all of the other clubs. Surplus squad players at SL are not good enough to player in the English second level, because he failed to recognise the relative strength of the English pyramid. Level 2 football is not the same all over Europe. So, how does he now make this project work? It looks like he is determined to try out his theory on player movement, so we'll find out in the first half of the season. Peeters is charged with developing a team good enough to play at Championship level. I hope he gets the squad to at least have a sporting chance of that. Otherwise he will become the fall guy very quickly.

    Looking forward to seeing who lines up in the first game of the season, the system and style of play, and whether the Belgian contingent have done the job properly over the summer.

    Also, I hear we have the Belgian Sam Allardyce. No point Poyet hanging around then as we will be by-passing midfield and he won't see the ball. LoL.

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    This long ball thing. Not what I have heard. Is a coach steeped in European style football likely to play Allardycesque football ? I think it unlikely. Where is byl when you need him.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I'm sure I've read both he plays long ball and passing football on here.

    There was also talk of him playing 4-3-3 with a big targetman. Is that being mixed up with playing long ball? A big targetman could be a player like Yann that is just as good on the floor. It doesn't necessarily mean hoofing it up to a big striker to flick on. Even teams that pass the ball well on the floor have physical strikers that can hold up and compete for the ball.

    Although it's not always reliable it's interesting to see how unknown players and managers are rated in FM. I've had look and his preferred formation is said to be 4-3-3 and he plays direct (but not out and out long), attacking high tempo football. His other ratings also suggest he's very good with young players (coaching and likes to sign them), a good motivator and man manager and isn't afraid to bring on subs.

    He's rated as the 7th best manager in the league (out of 16) despite his club being the smallest in the division. It also shows he worked under a Managing Director/Director of Football.

    Whether he's quite that good or it's exaggerated we'll see but it does at least suggest he's got a very good reputation in Belgium. I'd also say what we might interpret as direct football might be different abroad. Playing that way may also have been down to the type of players he's had available to him.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    MSE7 said:

    He spells how he wants, he spells how he wants, MSE7! He spells how he wants

    Yeah you no that. I am the A block General show me some respect!!!. I don't care what team you come from. You ain't moving us in A block...

    WE SHALL NOT WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!

    *know that.
  • MSE7
    MSE7 Posts: 1,345
    edited May 2014
    MSE7 said:

    I bet no one else was even interviewed for the job. Why? because they weren't Belgium.

    If Sloth Dowie had walked into RD's office with a box of the Belgian Chocolates he would of got the job....

    I can imagine RD saying to him "You like"
    Dowie "Yes"
    RD "huh huh you have the job huh"

  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056
    the need an "a block cam" on charlton player next season, worth the 4.99 a month on it's own
  • Everything i have heard & read about his style of football involved slow building passing football with a focus on wingers and a big target man up top, that is not hoofball, i must have missed about his teams also playing hoofball or is it people assuming his teams would play like that because he was a big lump of a striker when he played the game?
  • byl
    byl Posts: 133
    edited May 2014
    well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.

    If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.

    http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/

    look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer

    We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".

    I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    edited May 2014
    Here's the new training top:

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  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    byl said:

    well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.

    If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.

    http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/

    look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer

    We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".

    I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.


    Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Any word yet from big Bob on his new job? 'Happy to be here', 'big club', 'love Greenwich' - that sort of thing??
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056
    Swisdom said:

    byl said:

    well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.

    If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.

    http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/

    look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer

    We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".

    I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.


    Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
    viewfinder is getting his cartwheel on as i type
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    This guy dont exist --he dont exist itell you !!!!!
    have you seen him and RD in the same room ?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Swisdom said:

    byl said:

    well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.

    If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.

    http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/

    look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer

    We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".

    I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.


    Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
    This !

    No guarantees of course but I think that we might see some more pleasing on the eye football from a Charlton team than we've seen for many many a year. Continental European football is a different beast to what we see week in week out in the Championship and frankly I'm looking forward to watching some thoughtful on the floor attacking football and players comfortable doing it.

  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757

    Swisdom said:

    byl said:

    well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.

    If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.

    http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/

    look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer

    We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".

    I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.


    Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
    This !

    No guarantees of course but I think that we might see some more pleasing on the eye football from a Charlton team than we've seen for many many a year. Continental European football is a different beast to what we see week in week out in the Championship and frankly I'm looking forward to watching some thoughtful on the floor attacking football and players comfortable doing it.

    But different is not good, ever
  • sholland
    sholland Posts: 484
    So with these new coaching methods will we be singing,

    It's just like watching Belgium,
    It's just like watching Belgium,
    Charlton Athletic
    It's just like watching Belgium...
    (repeated)
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    sholland said:

    So with these new coaching methods will we be singing,

    It's just like watching Belgium,
    It's just like watching Belgium,
    Charlton Athletic
    It's just like watching Belgium...
    (repeated)

    No. ;0)

  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,048
    MSE7 said:

    He spells how he wants, he spells how he wants, MSE7! He spells how he wants

    Yeah you no that. I am the A block General show me some respect!!!. I don't care what team you come from. You ain't moving us in A block...

    WE SHALL NOT WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!
    Well, at least not until mummy calls you in for tea!! ;-)
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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,048
    byl said:

    well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.

    If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.

    http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/

    look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer

    We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".

    I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.

    @byl thank you for sharing that piece. Very insightful and I think that a few of the major nations (France, Germany) did something similar after they also saw their national teams losing their way.

    Reading on from just the 2nd section, the quote from Jean-Francois De Sart - technical director at our good friends at Standard Liege - when asked about unearthing, cultivating and selling their best talent, this year being Michy Batshuayi, could just as equally be used by us - “We try to improve our budget, but, OK, it is also the way to make, to live a life … We know in which world we are in.”
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,637
    sholland said:

    So with these new coaching methods will we be singing,

    It's just like watching Belgium,
    It's just like watching Belgium,
    Charlton Athletic
    It's just like watching Belgium...
    (repeated)

    Or just like watching watford.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596

    Is Bob is the tragic Frankenstein monster created by the evil Dr Roland???

    Just photoshop a bolt through his neck and there is all the evidence you I need
  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,608
    Boooobbbb The Belgiaaan
    He hates Millwall!!!
    Boooobbbb the Belgiaaan
    He hates Palace!!!

    Repeat
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Winner!
  • RedStar1957
    RedStar1957 Posts: 15
    Bob who?
  • Rob62
    Rob62 Posts: 1,200
    edited May 2014
    byl said:

    well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.

    If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.

    http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/

    look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer

    We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".

    I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.

    I'm sorry but that first paragraph is a total sweeping statement, and in my opinion total rubbish.
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056
    I'm all about the utopian football
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Gets on my nerves people calling Peeters a puppet etc. European football is played with a head coach. Who more often than not, doesn't buy the players. Just because we're not used to it over here doesn't make it wrong, nor does it make him a puppet.

    It's different, will it work out? I hope so. Whose to know. I'm certainly quite excited to find out.

    As nla says, time to sit back and watch
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    Let's wait and see what his first league team is. Currently there won't be any dispute sine we don't have enough players to form a match day squad.