However, Airman Brown’s disappointment and resentment at no longer being employed by the Club, to me, comes across in the vast majority of his postings. Nothing wrong there, that is his right, although I do find his constant criticism of some of those he worked alongside a little tiresome.
He is not the first to have suffered a redundancy or a termination of employment. It happens – everywhere and every day.
Unlike the vast majority, however, his departure was played out in public, and, perhaps, this makes matters more difficult for him. I can only surmise.
The purpose of this post? I’m not sure really, other than to cheekily suggest to Mr Brown, that perhaps it is time to move on?
I think this is wonderful news and will be a great development for the clubs long term history – something which we’ve all been concerned about over the last five years. It’s a step along the road of becoming a “sustainable” football club and for me that is the only way that we’re going to survive.
Since the disappointment of the Powell sacking six days ago RD has made three pretty good decisions with this news, the signing of Obika and JJ’s contract extension.
This planning application was submittted BEFORE Powell was sacked. (Source KM)
Yes but I think the news broke after Powell was sacked - it was the news that I'm happy with.
I think this is wonderful news and will be a great development for the clubs long term history – something which we’ve all been concerned about over the last five years. It’s a step along the road of becoming a “sustainable” football club and for me that is the only way that we’re going to survive.
Since the disappointment of the Powell sacking six days ago RD has made three pretty good decisions with this news, the signing of Obika and JJ’s contract extension.
This planning application was submittted BEFORE Powell was sacked. (Source KM)
Yes but I think the news broke after Powell was sacked - it was the news that I'm happy with.
No, KM said it publically BEFORE Powell was sacked.
I think this is wonderful news and will be a great development for the clubs long term history – something which we’ve all been concerned about over the last five years. It’s a step along the road of becoming a “sustainable” football club and for me that is the only way that we’re going to survive.
Since the disappointment of the Powell sacking six days ago RD has made three pretty good decisions with this news, the signing of Obika and JJ’s contract extension.
This planning application was submittted BEFORE Powell was sacked. (Source KM)
Yes but I think the news broke after Powell was sacked - it was the news that I'm happy with.
No, KM said it publically BEFORE Powell was sacked.
Good to see Peter Varney's work being taken forward. If the club hadn't decided to sue him and Martin Prothero had got off his arse it could have been built already, because the club wasn't paying. But better late than never.
As much as I love your comments, that is just not true
It was my understanding about £2M of funding was required from CAFC and as Jimenez was broke, that's why things never advanced.
It's my understanding - direct from Varney - that he had it funded externally, but the offer was withdrawn when he left and they started suing him. Prothero was supposed to take it forward but tried to delegate it and then it didn't go anywhere because they couldn't work out how to raise the money.
If my original comment came across as churlish towards RD then that wasn't the intention. This is a good thing and I welcome it without qualification.
And by the way, I'm not aware that I've criticised anyone that I worked with on the staff at Charlton, although I'm happy to be corrected.
I am well pleased about this but does anyone know if we will have significant planning problems with this - these things are rarely straightforward.
The building does look very large but I suppose that it does not really change the nature of usage of the ground, its not housing or offices.
One concern could be an increased level of traffic coming up Sparrows Lane if the building generates extra usage on the site.
There have been a lot of pre-application talks with the council over a period of years, going back to PV's involvement, so the club should have a very good idea of what will get permission (and what won't), otherwise it's not sensible to spend the money drawing up a detailed application. You'd make an outline application first to establish the principle.
That said, politicians can be unpredictable, as we know . . .
One concern could be an increased level of traffic coming up Sparrows Lane if the building generates extra usage on the site.
I think the training ground has another entrance round by B&Q in Eltham, the Sparrows Lane is only used by the first team squad.
Right, thanks.
I moved away in 1997 but understand that CAFC have taken over a whole lot more than just the original 'Unilever' ground, so I was wondering if there was also another entrance these days.
One concern could be an increased level of traffic coming up Sparrows Lane if the building generates extra usage on the site.
I think the training ground has another entrance round by B&Q in Eltham, the Sparrows Lane is only used by the first team squad.
Right, thanks.
I moved away in 1997 but understand that CAFC have taken over a whole lot more than just the original 'Unilever' ground, so I was wondering if there was also another entrance these days.
I think the other entrance is where you'd remember charlton park rugby club. Near the mini roundabout on footscray rd/Southend crescent.
I am well pleased about this but does anyone know if we will have significant planning problems with this - these things are rarely straightforward.
The building does look very large but I suppose that it does not really change the nature of usage of the ground, its not housing or offices.
One concern could be an increased level of traffic coming up Sparrows Lane if the building generates extra usage on the site.
There have been a lot of pre-application talks with the council over a period of years, going back to PV's involvement, so the club should have a very good idea of what will get permission (and what won't), otherwise it's not sensible to spend the money drawing up a detailed application. You'd make an outline application first to establish the principle.
That said, politicians can be unpredictable, as we know . . .
I am no expert on planning laws but my only concern would be that if the building were too large then it might provoke some complaints from locals in terms of the visuals and I guess that - at a push - the council might get concerned about 'envelope pushing' on what is green-belt land.
Having said that, with the recession being what it is then it would be a bloody brave council (Sir Humphrey might call it a "courageous decision") to turn down a 5 million investment in the area.
I am dissapointed that we don't have any otters, badgers or crayfish down there There doesn't seem to be a gym on the plans There are only 7-aside and full size pitches - don't different age groups need different sizes ? Why a Manager's office - surely we need a Coach's office No flag pole for the Drapeau de la Belgique
Good to see Peter Varney's work being taken forward. If the club hadn't decided to sue him and Martin Prothero had got off his arse it could have been built already, because the club wasn't paying. But better late than never.
As much as I love your comments, that is just not true
It was my understanding about £2M of funding was required from CAFC and as Jimenez was broke, that's why things never advanced.
It's my understanding - direct from Varney - that he had it funded externally, but the offer was withdrawn when he left and they started suing him. Prothero was supposed to take it forward but tried to delegate it and then it didn't go anywhere because they couldn't work out how to raise the money.
If my original comment came across as churlish towards RD then that wasn't the intention. This is a good thing and I welcome it without qualification.
And by the way, I'm not aware that I've criticised anyone that I worked with on the staff at Charlton, although I'm happy to be corrected.
Thanks for the clarification. We were talking at cross purposes.
I took your original comment to mean the Jimenez/Slater regime didn't need to fund it at all.
But you didn't mean that.
You meant that they did need to fund part of it, as Peter Varney's source of funding was no longer available.
I am well pleased about this but does anyone know if we will have significant planning problems with this - these things are rarely straightforward.
The building does look very large but I suppose that it does not really change the nature of usage of the ground, its not housing or offices.
One concern could be an increased level of traffic coming up Sparrows Lane if the building generates extra usage on the site.
There have been a lot of pre-application talks with the council over a period of years, going back to PV's involvement, so the club should have a very good idea of what will get permission (and what won't), otherwise it's not sensible to spend the money drawing up a detailed application. You'd make an outline application first to establish the principle.
That said, politicians can be unpredictable, as we know . . .
IMHO, I'd be surprised if there was a lot of opposition from Greenwich Council. This is a significant investment in redeveloping the site and from what I can see of the plans they are sympathetic to the neighbourhood. The work of the Community Trust is significant within UK football, and reflects well on Greenwich Borough, so saying "No" will fly in the face of those efforts. Additionally, the negative publicity that denying the application would generate would be unwanted when the council elections are looming!
So... Varney & Co planned on improving the training ground... then forgot about it...
Duchatelet came in, being far wealthier (or at least with more will to spend) he decided he would push on the plan and either has or has not amended some of the plan.
As a result it is now a massive Well done PV & Co from some and from the majority Well done Duchatelet....
When in fact unless I missed it... The planning applications haven't even been accepted? So no one has done anything of use yet!
But as people had said just above your post there will have been a lot of consultation already and RBG looks a lot more favourably on CAFC that it did in the past.
Doesn't mean it a done deal by any means but still a clear statement of intent.
BTW the old regime didn't forget about it. Steve Bradshaw stated that it was the main part of his job (source: Steve Bradshaw at Bromley Addicks 2013)
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m SB: "The enthusiasm Mr Duchâtelet has shown demonstrates the club’s ambition to improve its current facilities for pro players." #cafc
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m SB: "... and ensure the facility meets category-one standards under the EPPP guidelines, while also providing facilities for the community”.
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m SB: "The enthusiasm Mr Duchâtelet has shown demonstrates the club’s ambition to improve its current facilities for pro players." #cafc
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m SB: "... and ensure the facility meets category-one standards under the EPPP guidelines, while also providing facilities for the community”.
The evil feckin Belgian barsteward! Reading in between the lines I can see clearly that Mr Douchbag is going to start his evil bid for world domination in Eltham!!!!
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m SB: "The enthusiasm Mr Duchâtelet has shown demonstrates the club’s ambition to improve its current facilities for pro players." #cafc
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m SB: "... and ensure the facility meets category-one standards under the EPPP guidelines, while also providing facilities for the community”.
The evil feckin Belgian barsteward! Reading in between the lines I can see clearly that Mr Douchbag is going to start his evil bid for world domination in Eltham!!!!
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It was reported on here before Powell was sacked.
If my original comment came across as churlish towards RD then that wasn't the intention. This is a good thing and I welcome it without qualification.
And by the way, I'm not aware that I've criticised anyone that I worked with on the staff at Charlton, although I'm happy to be corrected.
The building does look very large but I suppose that it does not really change the nature of usage of the ground, its not housing or offices.
One concern could be an increased level of traffic coming up Sparrows Lane if the building generates extra usage on the site.
That said, politicians can be unpredictable, as we know . . .
I moved away in 1997 but understand that CAFC have taken over a whole lot more than just the original 'Unilever' ground, so I was wondering if there was also another entrance these days.
Having said that, with the recession being what it is then it would be a bloody brave council (Sir Humphrey might call it a "courageous decision") to turn down a 5 million investment in the area.
I am dissapointed that we don't have any otters, badgers or crayfish down there
There doesn't seem to be a gym on the plans
There are only 7-aside and full size pitches - don't different age groups need different sizes ?
Why a Manager's office - surely we need a Coach's office
No flag pole for the Drapeau de la Belgique
I took your original comment to mean the Jimenez/Slater regime didn't need to fund it at all.
But you didn't mean that.
You meant that they did need to fund part of it, as Peter Varney's source of funding was no longer available.
IMHO, I'd be surprised if there was a lot of opposition from Greenwich Council. This is a significant investment in redeveloping the site and from what I can see of the plans they are sympathetic to the neighbourhood. The work of the Community Trust is significant within UK football, and reflects well on Greenwich Borough, so saying "No" will fly in the face of those efforts. Additionally, the negative publicity that denying the application would generate would be unwanted when the council elections are looming!
Duchatelet came in, being far wealthier (or at least with more will to spend) he decided he would push on the plan and either has or has not amended some of the plan.
As a result it is now a massive Well done PV & Co from some and from the majority Well done Duchatelet....
When in fact unless I missed it...
The planning applications haven't even been accepted? So no one has done anything of use yet!
Doesn't mean it a done deal by any means but still a clear statement of intent.
BTW the old regime didn't forget about it. Steve Bradshaw stated that it was the main part of his job (source: Steve Bradshaw at Bromley Addicks 2013)
If Steve Bradshaw said that, then I can believe it was true. Decent man, great P.E Teacher in his day.
now on the OS
"The project is still being refined, but the club can confirm a decision from the Royal Borough is expected in early April."
Charlton have submitted plans to @Royal_Greenwich for a new training ground complex --> http://bit.ly/1ihi6Xa #cafc pic.twitter.com/Yqwz27mkCY
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m
SB: "The enthusiasm Mr Duchâtelet has shown demonstrates the club’s ambition to improve its current facilities for pro players." #cafc
Charlton Athletic FC @CAFCofficial · 3m
SB: "... and ensure the facility meets category-one standards under the EPPP guidelines, while also providing facilities for the community”.
Would be better to redevelop it and move to cheaper land further out in the sticks.
We couldn't redevelop it as housing as we'd be unlikely to get planning permission for change of use.
In also has the advantage of being in our home borough and will provide a base for the community trust that runs Greenwich Youth Services