Diego Poyett is the most exciting youngster I have seen come through the academy in nearly 50 years of supporting the club.
I was told last season that Tony Jiminez and Chris Powell did not get along A major concern that Jiminez had was that the Charlton youth academy was certainly on par, if not better than the Palace set up yet but apart from Callum Harriott the Charlton youngsters were not getting a chance. Palace are/were producing far more first team players from their academy than we were. This was because their youth team were given the opportunity and ours were not.
So if I was Tony Jiminez or Roland, my question to Chris Powell would be why on earth did Diego Poyett not get an opportunity until Dale Stephens was sold?
Powell must have seen him in training every day and realised just what a prospect he was turning into.
sometimes players aren't ready, mentally, physically or technically. I think Powell introduced the youth players perfectly, with the exception of perhaps harriot, each of the youth players that have come in have stayed in the first team. I think Joe Piggot could be a solid championship striker at least, but thrown in too early it has knocked his confidence.
Diego Poyett is the most exciting youngster I have seen come through the academy in nearly 50 years of supporting the club.
I was told last season that Tony Jiminez and Chris Powell did not get along A major concern that Jiminez had was that the Charlton youth academy was certainly on par, if not better than the Palace set up yet but apart from Callum Harriott the Charlton youngsters were not getting a chance. Palace are/were producing far more first team players from their academy than we were. This was because their youth team were given the opportunity and ours were not.
So if I was Tony Jiminez or Roland, my question to Chris Powell would be why on earth did Diego Poyett not get an opportunity until Dale Stephens was sold?
Powell must have seen him in training every day and realised just what a prospect he was turning into.
sometimes players aren't ready, mentally, physically or technically. I think Powell introduced the youth players perfectly, with the exception of perhaps harriot, each of the youth players that have come in have stayed in the first team. I think Joe Piggot could be a solid championship striker at least, but thrown in too early it has knocked his confidence.
Well it's one or the other, he did it perfectly, or brought in Piggot too soon?!
So with the exception of Piggot and Harriott, he brought Cousins and Poyet through perfectly!
It is not an anti-Powell thread, but it does ask questions of his managerial qualities if he cannot see what a prospect Poyett was, and he only played him when he had no one else.
Diego Poyett is the most exciting youngster I have seen come through the academy in nearly 50 years of supporting the club.
I was told last season that Tony Jiminez and Chris Powell did not get along A major concern that Jiminez had was that the Charlton youth academy was certainly on par, if not better than the Palace set up yet but apart from Callum Harriott the Charlton youngsters were not getting a chance. Palace are/were producing far more first team players from their academy than we were. This was because their youth team were given the opportunity and ours were not.
So if I was Tony Jiminez or Roland, my question to Chris Powell would be why on earth did Diego Poyett not get an opportunity until Dale Stephens was sold?
Powell must have seen him in training every day and realised just what a prospect he was turning into.
sometimes players aren't ready, mentally, physically or technically. I think Powell introduced the youth players perfectly, with the exception of perhaps harriot, each of the youth players that have come in have stayed in the first team. I think Joe Piggot could be a solid championship striker at least, but thrown in too early it has knocked his confidence.
Well it's one or the other, he did it perfectly, or brought in Piggot too soon?!
Piggot he had no choice, he was the only fit striker around if memory serves.
I think it is logical not to rush these things. Poyet has come in at a good age so not sure what the issue with Powell is. Whilst Poyet has looked a great prosepect from the onset - you can see his game developing with each match. The more offensive side is becoming more prominent.
People thinking he will sign for us if Barca come in are deluded I am afraid. Put yourself in the position of a non fan - arsenal man Utd, Barca, even spurs...all would pay him more, give him better training facilities, have him training with better quality players. If it did not turn out, clubs further down the pecking order (our level!) would pick him up.
Maybe if money is not an issue because of his dad, you could discount that, maybe there is something to say about staying in a location and comfort zone when you are developing, maybe playing first team in the Championship is what is best for him.
Realistically though, if any of the above come in for him and if they are serious, then we will have a 5% at best chance of holding on to him.
Blame the previous owners if you want but it is just one of those things, at least we got to see him play for us a few times unlike many (Defoe,palmer, Mcginty etc)
I think he does owe us some loyalty - start your career in the right way and all that! If he is good enough everything he wants will come to him and at this stage continuity - in a Championship first team is probably what is best for him to boot.
Diego Poyett is the most exciting youngster I have seen come through the academy in nearly 50 years of supporting the club.
I was told last season that Tony Jiminez and Chris Powell did not get along A major concern that Jiminez had was that the Charlton youth academy was certainly on par, if not better than the Palace set up yet but apart from Callum Harriott the Charlton youngsters were not getting a chance. Palace are/were producing far more first team players from their academy than we were. This was because their youth team were given the opportunity and ours were not.
So if I was Tony Jiminez or Roland, my question to Chris Powell would be why on earth did Diego Poyett not get an opportunity until Dale Stephens was sold?
Powell must have seen him in training every day and realised just what a prospect he was turning into.
sometimes players aren't ready, mentally, physically or technically. I think Powell introduced the youth players perfectly, with the exception of perhaps harriot, each of the youth players that have come in have stayed in the first team. I think Joe Piggot could be a solid championship striker at least, but thrown in too early it has knocked his confidence.
Well it's one or the other, he did it perfectly, or brought in Piggot too soon?!
Piggot he had no choice, he was the only fit striker around if memory serves.
He started up front with Church and was replaced by Sordell. If my memory serves me, it was his first Championship start, against local rivals and on TV..... if he is not 100% ready, that is NOT the time to bring him through!!
I think he does owe us some loyalty - start your career in the right way and all that! If he is good enough everything he wants will come to him and at this stage continuity - in a Championship first team is probably what is best for him to boot.
Unfortunately there is no loyalty left in football, money talks.
... why on earth did Diego Poyett not get an opportunity until Dale Stephens was sold?
that does seem a very good question.
because there is a clause in Poyet's contract that his wages go up by 400% after a small number of games.
So under Jimenez we couldn't afford to play him. Under Roland we can.
I understand that and also saw somewhere that Powell said Stephens could go at some point last year. But in the bigger picture relegation is far more expensive than a youth player contract converting to a senior squad level. Are you suggesting they were that skint or perhaps they were that sure of selling and didn't care?
Perhaps they were distressed sellers but their neglect of the squad since the summer including this element has surely cost them millions.
Also under Duchatelet we were able to sell Stephens for £700K to Brighton and not feel the difference in midfield at least.
Maybe having a continental coach and the possibility of working with Liege would make Diego more likely to stay with us, said he optimistically...after all, we are now trying to play more of a passing game which will definitely him better
Evening Standard were suggesting last night that he may/could sign a new contract with a relegation escape clause whereby he would join a Championship side on a season long loan next season.
... why on earth did Diego Poyett not get an opportunity until Dale Stephens was sold?
that does seem a very good question.
because there is a clause in Poyet's contract that his wages go up by 400% after a small number of games.
A school friend of my son's was at Chelsea as a trainee. He was on £1,200 a month. If he signed a pro contract at 18, that went up to £12,000 a month. Unfortunately, he did his knee at the end of his trainee period before he got to sign the new contract and that was that, career over.
Given what Diego could expect to earn at the Arse, ManUre or Barcelona, and given that his career could be finished any any time with a serious injury, you'd have to expect him to sign if one of those came calling. I would be gutted to see him go but you couldn't blame him.
... why on earth did Diego Poyett not get an opportunity until Dale Stephens was sold?
that does seem a very good question.
because there is a clause in Poyet's contract that his wages go up by 400% after a small number of games.
So under Jimenez we couldn't afford to play him. Under Roland we can.
I understand that and also saw somewhere that Powell said Stephens could go at some point last year. But in the bigger picture relegation is far more expensive than a youth player contract converting to a senior squad level. Are you suggesting they were that skint or perhaps they were that sure of selling and didn't care?
Perhaps they were distressed sellers but their neglect of the squad since the summer including this element has surely cost them millions.
Also under Duchatelet we were able to sell Stephens for £700K to Brighton and not feel the difference in midfield at least.
£700,000 for Stephens ? £400,000 for KMG. FA Cup run. I can see the books are balancing.
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Well it's one or the other, he did it perfectly, or brought in Piggot too soon?!
So with the exception of Piggot and Harriott, he brought Cousins and Poyet through perfectly!
50% aint bad I guess....
Maybe if money is not an issue because of his dad, you could discount that, maybe there is something to say about staying in a location and comfort zone when you are developing, maybe playing first team in the Championship is what is best for him.
Realistically though, if any of the above come in for him and if they are serious, then we will have a 5% at best chance of holding on to him.
Blame the previous owners if you want but it is just one of those things, at least we got to see him play for us a few times unlike many (Defoe,palmer, Mcginty etc)
because there is a clause in Poyet's contract that his wages go up by 400% after a small number of games.
So under Jimenez we couldn't afford to play him. Under Roland we can.
He started up front with Church and was replaced by Sordell. If my memory serves me, it was his first Championship start, against local rivals and on TV..... if he is not 100% ready, that is NOT the time to bring him through!!
Perhaps they were distressed sellers but their neglect of the squad since the summer including this element has surely cost them millions.
Also under Duchatelet we were able to sell Stephens for £700K to Brighton and not feel the difference in midfield at least.
I still have the view that Poyet will still be with us next season if we stay up
Good point. Yer thats been my thoughts all along, he just didnt want to end up in league 1
Wise man say 'Treat with great suspicion musings of man who is careless with his capitalisation'.
I think the reason Diego didn't play before RD came in was all contractual
Given what Diego could expect to earn at the Arse, ManUre or Barcelona, and given that his career could be finished any any time with a serious injury, you'd have to expect him to sign if one of those came calling. I would be gutted to see him go but you couldn't blame him.
Did I say that?