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Charlton fans and Freemasons

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  • masicat said:

    Riviera said:

    masicat said:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10851935

    MrOneLung said:

    The head of the uk grand lodge says in an interview on bbc website that you have to have a belief in higher being so being an atheist is a no no.

    So how do atheists like me get in?

    By lying.
    Nope.

    The trouble with secretive organisations - be they Bilderberg, the Freemasons or Bromley Addicks is that it makes those who insist on playing secret squirrel look as though they are hiding something important and exclusive. Or it makes them total dicks, you decide.
    Bromley Addicks ? WTF. Is that a joke ?
    Course it's not a joke. You don't think Henry wears cardigans for fun do you ? It the Bromley Addicks equivalent of the Masonic apron.

  • masicat said:

    Riviera said:

    masicat said:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10851935

    MrOneLung said:

    The head of the uk grand lodge says in an interview on bbc website that you have to have a belief in higher being so being an atheist is a no no.

    So how do atheists like me get in?

    By lying.
    Nope.

    The trouble with secretive organisations - be they Bilderberg, the Freemasons or Bromley Addicks is that it makes those who insist on playing secret squirrel look as though they are hiding something important and exclusive. Or it makes them total dicks, you decide.
    Bromley Addicks ? WTF. Is that a joke ?
    You obviously have passed the third degree...

  • again i refer you to Nigel Brown, general secretary of The United Grand Lodge of England in article on BBC WEBSITE from march 2012

    The prime qualification for admission into Freemasonry is a belief in a supreme being. Having some form of religious belief is the one thing that all Freemasons have in common, whatever their backgrounds might be.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17357150
  • masicat said:

    Riviera said:

    masicat said:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10851935

    MrOneLung said:

    The head of the uk grand lodge says in an interview on bbc website that you have to have a belief in higher being so being an atheist is a no no.

    So how do atheists like me get in?

    By lying.
    Nope.

    The trouble with secretive organisations - be they Bilderberg, the Freemasons or Bromley Addicks is that it makes those who insist on playing secret squirrel look as though they are hiding something important and exclusive. Or it makes them total dicks, you decide.
    Bromley Addicks ? WTF. Is that a joke ?
    You obviously have passed the third degree...

    I doubt he has passed any degree with that question!! FFS!!
  • MrOneLung said:

    again i refer you to Nigel Brown, general secretary of The United Grand Lodge of England in article on BBC WEBSITE from march 2012

    The prime qualification for admission into Freemasonry is a belief in a supreme being. Having some form of religious belief is the one thing that all Freemasons have in common, whatever their backgrounds might be.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17357150

    Yep, and? We all have our own religions and our own beliefs. Mine doesn't happen to include a 2000 year old fairytale where an Arab who looked like Robert Powell got himself nailed up on a cross. My own religion is the belief that you can lead a moral life and expect no reward for that morality. Freemasonry is not a religion, but there are many Freemaons who see it as a substitute as they themselves do not believe in God. Of course having to say you believe in a Supreme Being is a stumbling block for some, but when the ambiguity of that question is realised, the answer can be yes ( with tongue in cheek ).
  • Where does one join?
  • Nigel Brown:

    The prime qualification for admission into Freemasonry is a belief in a supreme being. Having some form of religious belief is the one thing that all Freemasons have in common, whatever their backgrounds might be. As humanists do not believe in any form of higher power they cannot fulfil that prime qualification.
  • FFS, I'm out.
  • masicat you have tried to reason with them, not worth it anymore, half the reason don't bother with this site anymore people just wish to shot you down in flames, or mock topics, hardly a fans forum.
  • edited June 2013
    'Chacun son gout, Rodney...'
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  • Guys,
    you have the USA and GCHQ reading your mail and listening to your phone calls, while oil companies and supermarkets get together to control almost every aspect of our daily lives - and you are getting worried about a few handshakes and some aprons.

    Do you really think that a collection of plumbers, bus drivers and dentists from Welling are running the world ?

    Smashie and Nicey told us all we need to know about freemasons:

    "They do a lot of work for chariddeee, but don't like to talk about it"
  • Where does one join?

    I am not a buffalo, i am a pukka mason! Secret hand shakes, initiation ceremonies, the works......
  • masicat you have tried to reason with them, not worth it anymore, half the reason don't bother with this site anymore people just wish to shot you down in flames, or mock topics, hardly a fans forum.

    I dont think most are shooting him down in flames, just questioning certain things such as the official line re religion etc from the top guy in the masons, and how it doesnt tally with being an atheist which Masicat has said he is.

  • Jabulon. he's the kiddie aint he?

    Each to their own i say.

    I have laods of pals in it and have been on many a tour of the innder temple in Long Acre and ladies nights but i just wont join - it aint for me but i have seen it make people all the better for being one - its a power for good i'd say/
  • I can take the silly comments and smartarse remarks. What drives me nuts is having to keep explaining the same bloody thing.
  • edited June 2013
    Explain why you are an atheist yet a primary requirement for membership is a belief in a "supreme being"
  • Perhaps some Freemasons pretend to believe in a 'supreme being' so that they can join. No-one would know if they were lying.
  • masicat said:

    I can take the silly comments and smartarse remarks. What drives me nuts is having to keep explaining the same bloody thing.

    Do you have to show the judge your nipple to get off a speeding fine?
  • what is the deal with the rings?

    are you only meant to where them at meetings/events etc or is it up to the individual?
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  • Explain why you are an atheist yet a primary requirement for membership is a belief in a "supreme being"

    NO
  • what is the deal with the rings?

    are you only meant to where them at meetings/events etc or is it up to the individual?

    What rings? Your not on David Icke as well surely?
  • masicat said:

    what is the deal with the rings?

    are you only meant to where them at meetings/events etc or is it up to the individual?

    What rings? Your not on David Icke as well surely?
    yeah, what rings ;-)





  • I've lost my ceremonial ring and as a result can no longer attend Bromley Addicks meetings...
  • Saga Lout said:

    I've lost my ceremonial ring and as a result can no longer attend Bromley Addicks meetings...

    I lost my ring at a Bromley addicts meeting.........

    Only joking, no one from BA has ever touched me in my special place.
  • David Icke ---theres a man that knew the truth about the masons----lizard people.
  • Serious question:
    Can a Catholic join the Freemasons masicat ?
  • What are the " mysteries and privileges of Freemasonary"?
  • Do you have to be Belgian or Moroccan?
  • Serious question:
    Can a Catholic join the Freemasons masicat ?

    I think the answer is yes.

    But you may find that should a Catholic join the Freemasons, they could be excommunicated.

    In short, if you want to be a Catholic and a Freemason, you may be better asking a priest.

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