" nothing to do with them" ? People are just responding to the initial thread. Can't see why it has nothing to do with us . Oh well . If it cracks you up then I suppose its ok .
The opening post was asking if anyone else was a mason, not being challenged "I bet you won't" to reveal details of ceremonies and 'secrets'.
Particularly with freemasonry, i've never understand the clamour from those not involved to demand details of things that happen in a private group. You wouldn't expect people to reveal details of work meetings, or lads weekends to strangers, so why this ? Its no one else's business
Then we agree to disagree . If people in public office are masons then I want to know why all the secrecy. I'm not alone in that view.
I agree with you there. Of course it's not really any of our business what a group of ordinary blokes decide to get up to in their own spare time - if its not illegal.
But when it comes to people in public office then I think it's fair game to ask questions.
People are suspicious of secrecy. Saying "we raise a lot of money for charity" isn't really going to change that.
Gents. For a forum that boasts so many intelligent and diverse thoughts I have to be honest and say this has been a real eye opener for me. I would be happy to host a chat in the Oak at any arranged home game to put minds at rest. I am a Freemason and have been one or over 30 years. Freemasonry is an amateur dramatic society that does nothing but good. The basis of the craft is a moral code that some Masons feel is a way of life. I personally have lapsed over the past few years. I feel that the craft itself has sold out to pressure from those who feel there is something sinister in men who join a club to do good. A lot of idiots do join for business reasons and soon leave when they find they can gain nothing. As I said, those that doubt can meet for a chat. I expect sarcasm and doubt, however, I am happy to explain the reasons why Masonry should be accepted...............Who wants to meet?
Gents. For a forum that boasts so many intelligent and diverse thoughts I have to be honest and say this has been a real eye opener for me. I would be happy to host a chat in the Oak at any arranged home game to put minds at rest. I am a Freemason and have been one or over 30 years. Freemasonry is an amateur dramatic society that does nothing but good. The basis of the craft is a moral code that some Masons feel is a way of life. I personally have lapsed over the past few years. I feel that the craft itself has sold out to pressure from those who feel there is something sinister in men who join a club to do good. A lot of idiots do join for business reasons and soon leave when they find they can gain nothing. As I said, those that doubt can meet for a chat. I expect sarcasm and doubt, however, I am happy to explain the reasons why Masonry should be accepted...............Who wants to meet?
Gents. For a forum that boasts so many intelligent and diverse thoughts I have to be honest and say this has been a real eye opener for me. I would be happy to host a chat in the Oak at any arranged home game to put minds at rest. I am a Freemason and have been one or over 30 years. Freemasonry is an amateur dramatic society that does nothing but good. The basis of the craft is a moral code that some Masons feel is a way of life. I personally have lapsed over the past few years. I feel that the craft itself has sold out to pressure from those who feel there is something sinister in men who join a club to do good. A lot of idiots do join for business reasons and soon leave when they find they can gain nothing. As I said, those that doubt can meet for a chat. I expect sarcasm and doubt, however, I am happy to explain the reasons why Masonry should be accepted...............Who wants to meet?
Nobody doubts that Freemasonry does some good but until the secret ( and it is ) initiation ceremony is revealed to non Masons it cannot be seen as anything other than a secret society. To say it is an amateur dramatic society only fuels the fire. You use the words "Codes" & " Craft" to describe masonry - Why? I'm not having a go but you can see why people are highly suspicious of The Masons.
Nobody doubts that Freemasonry does some good but until the secret ( and it is ) initiation ceremony is revealed to non Masons it cannot be seen as anything other than a secret society. To say it is an amateur dramatic society only fuels the fire. You use the words "Codes" & " Craft" to describe masonry - Why? I'm not having a go but you can see why people are highly suspicious of The Masons.
Nobody doubts that Freemasonry does some good but until the secret ( and it is ) initiation ceremony is revealed to non Masons it cannot be seen as anything other than a secret society. To say it is an amateur dramatic society only fuels the fire. You use the words "Codes" & " Craft" to describe masonry - Why?
I'm not having a go but you can see why people are highly suspicious of The Masons.
What do you want to know?
What makes you eligible? What happens during the joining ceremony? How much do you have to pay to join? can you leave ? Can you be an athiest and a Mason? and if not why not?
Nobody doubts that Freemasonry does some good but until the secret ( and it is ) initiation ceremony is revealed to non Masons it cannot be seen as anything other than a secret society. To say it is an amateur dramatic society only fuels the fire. You use the words "Codes" & " Craft" to describe masonry - Why?
I'm not having a go but you can see why people are highly suspicious of The Masons.
What do you want to know?
What makes you eligible? What happens during the joining ceremony? How much do you have to pay to join? can you leave ? Can you be an athiest and a Mason? and if not why not?
Anyone can join. Google it Depends on the Lodge Yep Yep
Nobody doubts that Freemasonry does some good but until the secret ( and it is ) initiation ceremony is revealed to non Masons it cannot be seen as anything other than a secret society. To say it is an amateur dramatic society only fuels the fire. You use the words "Codes" & " Craft" to describe masonry - Why?
I'm not having a go but you can see why people are highly suspicious of The Masons.
What do you want to know?
What makes you eligible? What happens during the joining ceremony? How much do you have to pay to join? can you leave ? Can you be an athiest and a Mason? and if not why not?
Anyone can join. Google it Depends on the Lodge Yep Yep
I have googled it and there is no conclusive answer so can you tell me what happened at your opening ceremony? Also i believe your wrong about the last answer.
Just had a phone call from the top man. Said I will find myself under Blackfriars Bridge tomorrow if I'm not careful. Calvin was a member of Roma Life and done the same thing apparently.
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But when it comes to people in public office then I think it's fair game to ask questions.
People are suspicious of secrecy. Saying "we raise a lot of money for charity" isn't really going to change that.
I'm not having a go but you can see why people are highly suspicious of The Masons.
I dont get the hysteria around it nor the cynicism but then thats just me
Anyway, it was a "joke" for nla's benefit.
What happens during the joining ceremony?
How much do you have to pay to join?
can you leave ?
Can you be an athiest and a Mason? and if not why not?
Google it
Depends on the Lodge
Yep
Yep
Mr F's Dad & uncle who was an Inspector in Special Branch were both Masons at that time.
Also i believe your wrong about the last answer.
What do you want ? Duke of Kents signature?
Come on boys, this is getting boring. I am sure you can all google any question you want to know!!