Odd Millwall fans watching their team play at the valley sitting where they like is fine by me and i did not feel the urge like a few to run over and punch their lights out or run squealing to a steward, for them daring to have fun watching their team!
I can assure you I am not being obtuse Prague I just do not think it is clear. If I am breaking a law by taking clients into home areas who support the away team I would like it clarified, I always warn my clients not to react if their team go close or score and they abide by this.
I have just looked on multimap using the street level veiw and I cannot see any signs on the turnstiles I use saying 'home fans only', and to be honest if it did say that I would assume it was for the benifit of away fans who did not know where they were going, not warning me I am breaking the law if I take one in with me.
Where I sit in the East stand most of those around me are season ticket holders, they know what I do and there is never a problem, in fact we all have a bit of banter which is what going to football is all about isn't it?.
I can assure you I am not being obtuse Prague I just do not think it is clear. If I am breaking a law by taking clients into home areas who support the away team I would like it clarified, I always warn my clients not to react if their team go close or score and they abide by this.
I have just looked on multimap using the street level veiw and I cannot see any signs on the turnstiles I use saying 'home fans only', and to be honest if it did say that I would assume it was for the benifit of away fans who did not know where they were going, not warning me I am breaking the law if I take one in with me.
Where I sit in the East stand most of those around me are season ticket holders, they know what I do and there is never a problem, in fact we all have a bit of banter which is what going to football is all about isn't it?.
If you say there is no such sign there, I have to accept that. I must have seen them at other grounds, then. But that is because that is the way things are now. Segregation is the rule.Even if it isn't written as such. I wish it was as you'd like it to be, I really do. But it isn't.
the funny thing for me Saturday was the funny millwall fan in front of me who was there also for the4 4 he was saying he could of had a ticket for the away end but wanted to catch up with his Charlton mate he not seen for a while
Interesting that when I went Palace away this season I sat in their boxes and the box next to me had a few Charlton fans in it. One bloke was singing Charlton songs at the top of his voice, slagging off Palace and even put his Charlton scarf on the railings... he didn't even get spoken to once, despite some complaints and lasted the 90 minutes.
Sat in the home end at Leeds in the Prem days cos I couldn't get a ticket for our area. Was quite easy for me as I don't have a London accent. Needless to say I kept my head down because I knew if I showed out in any way I'd have got a proper kicking. Was quite easy as we lost but I guess my point is that you are going to get away fans in home ends, they just have to know how to behave.
Having said that, there better not be any of those scummy northern monkies in home ends on the 6th.
I went to the 4-2 game vs Chelsea with my ex father in law. One of his Chelsea mates came along and was wearing a Chelsea shirt. What a helmet - he really couldn't see why it was a problem.
I made him take it off and just hoped he would be quiet......funnily enough he was!
I had me Addicks shirt on sat in the main stand at Maine Rd with a bunch of City mates when we beat them 2-1 up there donkey's years ago, and me and my other two Charlton mates jumped up when we scored the second, along with quite a few others dotted around the stand too. I also stood on the halfway line and in the Cold Blow Lane end at The Den with my Charlton scarf on, with a Millwall mate though... And naturally we lost, so it wasn't as hairy as it might have been.
I know the three people that complained to stewards about 'wall being in block A of the East. Why did they complain - because in the last home game against our friendly neighbours (the 4-4 draw) 'Wall were also sitting in this area (about double that were there this time) and when we scored 2 of them came over to block C looking for a row. Unfortunately they picked on my Daughter so I had to get involved with the result that the 2 walked away making threats for after the game. The complaints to stewards were aimed at stopping a similar potential flare up (if only we could score!)
I was in the Spurs end behind the goal when SCP scored ten mins from the end for us to win 0-1 my pleasure was their pain ..... I was in the Arsenal end for 5-3 defeat and have been in my mates box at the Scum for last two visits and the friendly 2 years ago ..... I know I can control myself and I have never been noticed or spotted at these matches but not everyone is a cool calm and collected customer like me And I think if you show yourself up in the home end as an away fan you're opening yourself up to a load of agg and that's just the way it is... Ironically in that last Leeds match at the valley I was in the west stand for some hospitality chuff and some charlton goons grassed me up to a steward for being a Leedsfan !! because I just wanted us or them to score because I didn't think we'd make the autos and wanted Leeds to take the auto spot to fuck off the scum so was getting a bit excited whoever attacked that day !! Thankfully it was an old friend who was the steward and he knew I was Charlton .... There were a few millscum fans who were in corporate that day as well ,to cheer us on !!
I sat in the Jimmy Seed when we played QPR the year we went back up to the Prem (no season ticket that year, couldn't afford it, and could only get a ticket for the away end). Got rumbled about twenty minutes in without realising it when Maddix gave away a penalty and I almost jumped out of my seat. Five minutes from the end a bloke put his hand on my shoulder and gave it a squeeze - looked round, he was about fifteen foot tall and built like a brick shithouse. They all had a good old laugh at me shitting my pants, and were fine about it - took the piss about having to sit in the away end at my own ground for the rest of the match but never gave me the kicking I probably deserved for my stupidity!
Sorry, but I have zero tolerance for Millwall fans in home areas - any other fans (apart from Leeds/Cardiff etc) I would not have a big problem with but Millwall? Do me a favour.
It seems once again that we have a number of our own fans who think that the rules apply to anyone but them, that they can 'trust' their Millwall mates and there will be no problems - completely unacceptable.
Millwall supporters have proven over a very long period of time that they are a serious danger to public order, they live off the 'No One Likes Us' bullshit and yet STILL we have our own supporters buying them tickets and bringing them into the ground in home areas.
If people are found to have brought Millwall fans into home areas they should face very stiff penalties - for instance, they should be made to attend every home game from now till the end of the season.
To be fair Leroy what you describe was not lording it. You were on your own and let your emotions and guard down for a sec. They would have been bullies to do anything other than a quiet word.
Millwall do lord it and usually in groups!! Big difference in my opinion.
Met one of the Millwall in West Upper and they were making themselves known. The Charlton women was tot and got kicked out. The person I was talking to had to retire to the bar area, Legends? The stewards knew of them but did not kick out. They were in Bartrams from 10 went in unchallenged!
Met one of the Millwall in West Upper and they were making themselves known. The Charlton women was tot and got kicked out. The person I was talking to had to retire to the bar area, Legends? The stewards knew of them but did not kick out. They were in Bartrams from 10 went in unchallenged!
Did not see any Millwall in Bartrams, where were they in there?
Had a millwall fan sitting in the row in front of me in the lower north how did you know it was a millwall fan you ask because he had millwall tattooed across his wrist he was quiet bet he enjoyed his day
Sorry, but I have zero tolerance for Millwall fans in home areas - any other fans (apart from Leeds/Cardiff etc) I would not have a big problem with but Millwall? Do me a favour.
It seems once again that we have a number of our own fans who think that the rules apply to anyone but them, that they can 'trust' their Millwall mates and there will be no problems - completely unacceptable.
Millwall supporters have proven over a very long period of time that they are a serious danger to public order, they live off the 'No One Likes Us' bullshit and yet STILL we have our own supporters buying them tickets and bringing them into the ground in home areas.
If people are found to have brought Millwall fans into home areas they should face very stiff penalties - for instance, they should be made to attend every home game from now till the end of the season.
Can I ask seeing as you have not only underlined it but have also put it bold, what rule did I break on Saturday taking a Millwall mate into the East stand with his 10 year old son?
Is it written in the football league ground rules handbook or is it some unwritten rule amoungst fans?
Also if you cannot trust your mates who can you trust?
Mike you done what you done for your own reasons and wether people agree or disagree you seem the sort of bloke who knows his own mind and will do what he wants and rightly so
But it ain't right it is not sensible and if it back fires on you one day don't be surprised
Mike you done what you done for your own reasons and wether people agree or disagree you seem the sort of bloke who knows his own mind and will do what he wants and rightly so
But it ain't right it is not sensible and if it back fires on you one day don't be surprised
I take it Phil Gartside won't be sitting with TJ or Slater on the 30th then?
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I have just looked on multimap using the street level veiw and I cannot see any signs on the turnstiles I use saying 'home fans only', and to be honest if it did say that I would assume it was for the benifit of away fans who did not know where they were going, not warning me I am breaking the law if I take one in with me.
Where I sit in the East stand most of those around me are season ticket holders, they know what I do and there is never a problem, in fact we all have a bit of banter which is what going to football is all about isn't it?.
If you say there is no such sign there, I have to accept that. I must have seen them at other grounds, then. But that is because that is the way things are now. Segregation is the rule.Even if it isn't written as such.
I wish it was as you'd like it to be, I really do. But it isn't.
he was saying he could of had a ticket for the away end but wanted to catch up with his Charlton mate he not seen for a while
We put them down that day.
Having said that, there better not be any of those scummy northern monkies in home ends on the 6th.
I only had to mention Len Glover and I was fine with the natives as he is a legend up there.
We lost 3-1 that day so not too much sitting on my hands!
I made him take it off and just hoped he would be quiet......funnily enough he was!
I know I can control myself and I have never been noticed or spotted at these matches but not everyone is a cool calm and collected customer like me
And I think if you show yourself up in the home end as an away fan you're opening yourself up to a load of agg and that's just the way it is...
Ironically in that last Leeds match at the valley I was in the west stand for some hospitality chuff and some charlton goons grassed me up to a steward for being a Leedsfan !! because I just wanted us or them to score because I didn't think we'd make the autos and wanted Leeds to take the auto spot to fuck off the scum so was getting a bit excited whoever attacked that day !! Thankfully it was an old friend who was the steward and he knew I was Charlton .... There were a few millscum fans who were in corporate that day as well ,to cheer us on !!
It seems once again that we have a number of our own fans who think that the rules apply to anyone but them, that they can 'trust' their Millwall mates and there will be no problems - completely unacceptable.
Millwall supporters have proven over a very long period of time that they are a serious danger to public order, they live off the 'No One Likes Us' bullshit and yet STILL we have our own supporters buying them tickets and bringing them into the ground in home areas.
If people are found to have brought Millwall fans into home areas they should face very stiff penalties - for instance, they should be made to attend every home game from now till the end of the season.
Millwall do lord it and usually in groups!! Big difference in my opinion.
No idea but he was very impressed by Bartrams and the Valley in general!
Is it written in the football league ground rules handbook or is it some unwritten rule amoungst fans?
Also if you cannot trust your mates who can you trust?
But it ain't right it is not sensible and if it back fires on you one day don't be surprised
Your point is what
You know as well as I do that hospitality means entertaining guests-your firm did it!
Surely, having paid a premium for the privilege, Mike has the freedom to entertain who the hell he likes?
I see no real issue but as has been said before muzza nearly got a clump in the west stand
Who's to say that wernt from a corporate entertainer guest
in the east stand I do
There have been too many incidents of away fans in that end
It was Tangoman having a pop at Muzza !