now the dust has settled can you please admit you were beaten by the better team and out smarted tactically by DJ, who stole the game from CP. If not carry on sucking on the lemons. You're a small side which is ok as your're a small club. Plucky, i believe is the preferred term in these parts.
Talk about obsessed with us. Why are wednesday looking for a rival. Rivals last year when we smashed league one.
But I thought you would forget about us after your open top bus celebrations for finishing divisions 3 runners up. (Cringe)
I feel quite sorry for the Wendies if that is what they have to watch every week - when you see midfielders and defenders regularly lobbing aerial balls into the middle of the park you know that you have a team that relies on physique rather than footballing ability. That said I do think SCP lost the tactical game with Jones today when he didn't respond to their change in formation - but given he has been doing rather well at that game recently after not starting the season so well it really isn't time to start lobing the brickbats. The other thing we obviously need in order to handle sides who pack the midfield (especially away from home) and are prepared to be physical is a midfield ball winner type - Danny Hollands probably isn't fast enough for this division but I don't think he has yet been replaced - Reo Coker or similar anyone?
If CP feels the players were doing there job, maybe they were, but you could see them scoring then it was him not doing his job properly. Although lacking in any real quality it is very difficult to defend for 30 minutes without handing the opposition some chances and if they pump enough balls into the box then something will eventually fall. It's no good waiting until they take the lead before doing something about it. Reacted far too late and shoud have changed things to put the game to bed. Home form is absolutely shocking.
actually the team played well except at the end when they stood back and let wednesday come onto them. Great performances from wagstaff and taylor and dont be too upset about this. We were the better team whose tactics at the end went wrong. Yes we could have subbed but they did have a good set of forwards who always looked likely. I am not that upset.
I was at the game and to say I came away frustrated and angry is an understatement but then to make matters worse and really piss me off I read on the BBC report that Wednesday had 52% of the play, 15 shots at goal and 9 on target ? Where they at the same game as me ?
I can only congratulate David Jones, a good experienced manager who can recognise when things need changing, and effectively change the game with his substitutions. I could not believe that we produced our subs in the 88th minute, did we have some master plan to win the game in two minutes ? A big disappointment that we had 3,000 extra supporters there, and managed to lose to a League One up and under team who should have been there for the taking. Bit like my old school reports, must do better.
horrendous , i watched it 5 times and still can't work out why hamer didn't have a dive for it unless he thought he was nearer the far post and it was going wide ... very weird
Powell maybe should have changed things yes, but the I thought the main reason we lost was due to the above. Looked from the East Hamer thought it was going over.
One of those shots would be the worst effort seen for many a year which gave us the only laugh of the day. with any luck they will go back to where they belong and be replaced by a team which at least attempt to play football those fans arnt a bunch of gobby tossers---------someone like Shef Utd.
Their Manager had more experience and it showed. One down he brought on two forwards (not pit props). We on the other hand stuck the ball in the air for the whole of the first half. Played it on the deck and scored a good goal. Then defended at home ?
The subs were just a piss take as far as i was concerned.No idea what CP was thinking doing that.
We are in mid table we dont deserve to be higher than that.
CP is learning at this level and sometimes he will get it wrong----Saturday was one of those.
When ever a few people come back CAFC always f++k it up------- SOP.
Chris Powell will get lots wrong, goes with the job. However, this wasn't the first time he tried to get to 90 without making a change. One week we were the only club out of te 92 who didn't make a change. Sir Alex, The special one ad Mr Wenger all change their team around and make changes . If they think its the way of things, then Chris has to learn from it. Against Whednesday the 10 year old sitting behind me could see it ffs. I love him ( SCP that is ) but I do worry sometimes.
Chris Powell will get lots wrong, goes with the job. However, this wasn't the first time he tried to get to 90 without making a change. One week we were the only club out of te 92 who didn't make a change. Sir Alex, The special one ad Mr Wenger all change their team around and make changes . If they think its the way of things, then Chris has to learn from it. Against Whednesday the 10 year old sitting behind me could see it ffs. I love him ( SCP that is ) but I do worry sometimes.
Phew, thanks for clearing that up about the ten year old.
Home form is very worrying and we are well on course to lose 10 games at The Valley this season. That is relegation form! Going to home games has become a chore as opposed to the enjoyable day out it should be.
Saying that, it is the nature of the championship, apart from a few top teams everyone else struggles to get results at home. Therefore nothing to worry about, we won`t go up and we won`t go down.
We will win some and we will lose some and hopefully build again in the summer. A result at Palace next weekend will make it all worthwhile.
It's easy to back SCP because we all love him. The guy will make mistakes and whilst I think we need to stick by him, the sort of mistakes regarding subs(and or not acknowledging a tired player) are beyond stupid. I'd love to see us persevere with Powell like Moyes at Everton but when you look at the stubbon attitude towards not using subs the you have to ask if the majoirty of fans will stand by him when the board doesn't?
Because a few times this season we have lost games with the likes of Fuller,Haynes (earlier on ) even BWP on the bench. Regardless of form- a fresh player will always offer advantage going forward to steal a point or defensively to keep us in a game.
It's easy to back SCP because we all love him. The guy will make mistakes and whilst I think we need to stick by him, the sort of mistakes regarding subs(and or not acknowledging a tired player) are beyond stupid. I'd love to see us persevere with Powell like Moyes at Everton but when you look at the stubbon attitude towards not using subs the you have to ask if the majoirty of fans will stand by him when the board doesn't?
Because a few times this season we have lost games with the likes of Fuller,Haynes (earlier on ) even BWP on the bench. Regardless of form- a fresh player will always offer advantage going forward to steal a point or defensively to keep us in a game.
It's a squad game these days and having a strong bench is vitally important. Powell will put us and his management at a big disadvantage if he doesn't learn to make better use of his substitutes. I recall him being critised on many occasions for NOT using subs, but the only time I can recall him being critised for changing things was at Birmingham when we conceded a late equaliser. In other words, when he does make substitutions they are generally good and work out well.
For goodness sake - we lost one game after winning three in a row - and suddenly Powell is tactically naive if not downright incompetent and in danger of losing the fans? Ridiculous over-reaction by many on here....I assume you all get everything right 100% of the time??
What would all those moaning about no subs have done exactly in the context of the match we watched?
We were 15 minutes or so from closing out a 1-0 victory and struggling to compete for the ball against a very industrious Sheffield Wednesday side.
We needed to match that work rate and, in all honesty, Jimmy Floyd Fuller jogging around, Danny haircut Green not tracking back or BWP being physically dominated by their centre halves wasn't going to cut it.
For goodness sake - we lost one game after winning three in a row - and suddenly Powell is tactically naive if not downright incompetent and in danger of losing the fans? Ridiculous over-reaction by many on here....I assume you all get everything right 100% of the time??
Well a few are over reacting as always happens after any loss, but the general consensus seems to be Powell is a good manager who made a very bad call on this particular occassion. And for what its worth, IF we repeatedly piss away a lead due to indecisiveness or inactivity from the manager then yes there will be criticism... Though that is a small chance IMO.
What would all those moaning about no subs have done exactly in the context of the match we watched?
We were 15 minutes or so from closing out a 1-0 victory and struggling to compete for the ball against a very industrious Sheffield Wednesday side.
We needed to match that work rate and, in all honesty, Jimmy Floyd Fuller jogging around, Danny haircut Green not tracking back or BWP being physically dominated by their centre halves wasn't going to cut it.
I don't agree. If they're not good enough to be on the bench they shouldn't be there. I actually think we've got a decent squad and maybe a counter intuitive move like giving their lumbering defenders a bit of pace to worry about might have paid off and pegged them back a bit. As it was Kermo got dragged further back and we didn't have an out ball. It's one of those things, but I hope we learn.
Actually on a side note, I thought the crowd were poor today. Lots of punters were off down the stairs like scalded cats the second they scored. Poor.
What would all those moaning about no subs have done exactly in the context of the match we watched?
We were 15 minutes or so from closing out a 1-0 victory and struggling to compete for the ball against a very industrious Sheffield Wednesday side.
We needed to match that work rate and, in all honesty, Jimmy Floyd Fuller jogging around, Danny haircut Green not tracking back or BWP being physically dominated by their centre halves wasn't going to cut it.
I don't agree. If they're not good enough to be on the bench they shouldn't be there. I actually think we've got a decent squad and maybe a counter intuitive move like giving their lumbering defenders a bit of pace to worry about might have paid off and pegged them back a bit. As it was Kermo got dragged further back and we didn't have an out ball. It's one of those things, but I hope we learn.
Actually on a side note, I thought the crowd were poor today. Lots of punters were off down the stairs like scalded cats the second they scored. Poor.
3 weeks ago, people would have said that Wagstaff and Taylor were no good, and couldn't be relied on in this division.
The real flop in our current squad is Kerkar, I presume he's out in the cold rather than injured, as he's the other midfielder in our squad, who might have done a job in the last 15 minutes, if selected...
What would all those moaning about no subs have done exactly in the context of the match we watched?
We were 15 minutes or so from closing out a 1-0 victory and struggling to compete for the ball against a very industrious Sheffield Wednesday side.
We needed to match that work rate and, in all honesty, Jimmy Floyd Fuller jogging around, Danny haircut Green not tracking back or BWP being physically dominated by their centre halves wasn't going to cut it.
I don't agree. If they're not good enough to be on the bench they shouldn't be there. I actually think we've got a decent squad and maybe a counter intuitive move like giving their lumbering defenders a bit of pace to worry about might have paid off and pegged them back a bit. As it was Kermo got dragged further back and we didn't have an out ball. It's one of those things, but I hope we learn.
Actually on a side note, I thought the crowd were poor today. Lots of punters were off down the stairs like scalded cats the second they scored. Poor.
They are good enough to be on the bench if you need to take a risk and want impact players to create something.
That wasn't the situation though so I could see SCP's thinking.
horrendous , i watched it 5 times and still can't work out why hamer didn't have a dive for it unless he thought he was nearer the far post and it was going wide ... very weird
Powell maybe should have changed things yes, but the I thought the main reason we lost was due to the above. Looked from the East Hamer thought it was going over.
I'm not saying Powell wasn't partly at fault with his decisions , Yet , it is amazing how quickly the mood changes on here after a loss , 3 wins against hard sides. , a loss isn't disastrous
A loss might not be, but the nature of that one was - players and manager alike not doing their jobs properly - not good at all
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But I thought you would forget about us after your open top bus celebrations for finishing divisions 3 runners up. (Cringe)
Thanks for the six points
Stay Plucky !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Theres won't let me on theirs
At least sheff united do have a bit of class about them.
Fact 1. Wedneaday are obsessed with us
Fact 2. You had a civic reception for being runners up in division 3
with any luck they will go back to where they belong and be replaced by a team which at least attempt to play football those fans arnt a bunch of gobby tossers---------someone like Shef Utd.
Their Manager had more experience and it showed. One down he brought on two forwards (not pit props). We on the other hand stuck the ball in the air for the whole of the first half. Played it on the deck and scored a good goal. Then defended at home ?
The subs were just a piss take as far as i was concerned.No idea what CP was thinking doing that.
We are in mid table we dont deserve to be higher than that.
CP is learning at this level and sometimes he will get it wrong----Saturday was one of those.
When ever a few people come back CAFC always f++k it up------- SOP.
I love him ( SCP that is ) but I do worry sometimes.
Saying that, it is the nature of the championship, apart from a few top teams everyone else struggles to get results at home. Therefore nothing to worry about, we won`t go up and we won`t go down.
We will win some and we will lose some and hopefully build again in the summer. A result at Palace next weekend will make it all worthwhile.
The guy will make mistakes and whilst I think we need to stick by him, the sort of mistakes regarding subs(and or not acknowledging a tired player) are beyond stupid.
I'd love to see us persevere with Powell like Moyes at Everton but when you look at the stubbon attitude towards not using subs the you have to ask if the majoirty of fans will stand by him when the board doesn't?
Because a few times this season we have lost games with the likes of Fuller,Haynes (earlier on ) even BWP on the bench.
Regardless of form- a fresh player will always offer advantage going forward to steal a point or defensively to keep us in a game.
We were 15 minutes or so from closing out a 1-0 victory and struggling to compete for the ball against a very industrious Sheffield Wednesday side.
We needed to match that work rate and, in all honesty, Jimmy Floyd Fuller jogging around, Danny haircut Green not tracking back or BWP being physically dominated by their centre halves wasn't going to cut it.
Actually on a side note, I thought the crowd were poor today. Lots of punters were off down the stairs like scalded cats the second they scored. Poor.
The real flop in our current squad is Kerkar, I presume he's out in the cold rather than injured, as he's the other midfielder in our squad, who might have done a job in the last 15 minutes, if selected...
That wasn't the situation though so I could see SCP's thinking.