I've always said that BWP is as good as the service he receives. He'll convert 1 in 3, which is the decent striker's average.
Mind you, I do wince when I see him miss 1-on-1's.
C'mon Brad, you just need to be decisive - get as central as possible, take the keeper on as if he was a defender, drop a shoulder and accelerate past him.
His one on one finishing is very poor and with a midfield not providing a great service his chances are few and far between, those he's got seemed to be mostly in a one on one scenario.
The service he receives doesn't help, but I'm so sure it's entirely down to that either.
Rob Hulse seemed to get into far more goalscoring positions while he was with us, playing ifn front of the same midfield. I know he didn't take them all and in fact missed a couple of sitters, but he did seem to have that happy knack of being in the right place at the right time.
That ability seems to have deserted BWP and that is what worries me. He's not a clinical one-on-one finisher that plays on the shoulders, neither has he been a fox-in-the-box poacher of late and he's not the kind of striker that can create chances for himself through pure skill or by being a physical battering ram.
He's good league 1 striker and a decent Championship squad player, imo, but if we are able to progress in the League and eventually get promoted I don't think he'll be one that stays with us for the ride.
I don't think he's had fair crack this year and out of em all if they played the same matches I reckon he would get the most. He also offers movement and pace which our other forwards don't but CP doesn't see it that way
I think it's likely that he will go. He has been a good player for us, has a lovely first touch but suffers from crap service like the rest of them. They're not doing much better either.
The service he receives doesn't help, but I'm so sure it's entirely down to that either.
Rob Hulse seemed to get into far more goalscoring positions while he was with us, playing ifn front of the same midfield. I know he didn't take them all and in fact missed a couple of sitters, but he did seem to have that happy knack of being in the right place at the right time.
That ability seems to have deserted BWP and that is what worries me. He's not a clinical one-on-one finisher that plays on the shoulders, neither has he been a fox-in-the-box poacher of late and he's not the kind of striker that can create chances for himself through pure skill or by being a physical battering ram.
He's good league 1 striker and a decent Championship squad player, imo, but if we are able to progress in the League and eventually get promoted I don't think he'll be one that stays with us for the ride.
True, though I don't think progressing in the league and getting promoted are things we need to worry about this transfer window, staying in this league will be good enough for me this year!
I don't think he's had fair crack this year and out of em all if they played the same matches I reckon he would get the most. He also offers movement and pace which our other forwards don't but CP doesn't see it that way
Yes I agree. I think we should be offering him a new contract. There's no way in my mind that he isn't good enough to be 3rd or 4th choice for us in the champ.
The service he receives doesn't help, but I'm so sure it's entirely down to that either.
Rob Hulse seemed to get into far more goalscoring positions while he was with us, playing ifn front of the same midfield. I know he didn't take them all and in fact missed a couple of sitters, but he did seem to have that happy knack of being in the right place at the right time.
That ability seems to have deserted BWP and that is what worries me. He's not a clinical one-on-one finisher that plays on the shoulders, neither has he been a fox-in-the-box poacher of late and he's not the kind of striker that can create chances for himself through pure skill or by being a physical battering ram.
He's good league 1 striker and a decent Championship squad player, imo, but if we are able to progress in the League and eventually get promoted I don't think he'll be one that stays with us for the ride.
True, though I don't think progressing in the league and getting promoted are things we need to worry about this transfer window, staying in this league will be good enough for me this year!
I agree, although I fear for us a little if we have to rely too heavily on him to score the goals to keep us up.
I would agree though that unless we're getting back what we paid for him, or getting him off the wage bill will mean we sign someone better there is no point getting rid now - it should have been done in the summer, imo, while his stock was still high.
I don't think he's had fair crack this year and out of em all if they played the same matches I reckon he would get the most. He also offers movement and pace which our other forwards don't but CP doesn't see it that way
Fuller 8 starts 7 sub 3 goals Haynes 8 starts 3 sub 5 goals Hulse 10 starts 5 sub 3 goals Kermorgant 12 starts 3 sub 5 goals BWP 10 starts 6 sub 1 goal
Haynes offers a lot more pace and I'm not convinced BWPs movement is that much better than the rest.
I agree with Exiled. Better service would help, but you could say the same for any of our strikers. I don't think he causes enough problems at this level for defenders. Unless a player is an excellent poacher at this level (e.g. Kevin Phillips) they need something more to their game. He doesn't have that pace, power or skill to hurt defences.
I don't think he's had fair crack this year and out of em all if they played the same matches I reckon he would get the most. He also offers movement and pace which our other forwards don't but CP doesn't see it that way
Fuller 8 starts 7 sub 3 goals Haynes 8 starts 3 sub 5 goals Hulse 10 starts 5 sub 3 goals Kermorgant 12 starts 3 sub 5 goals BWP 10 starts 6 sub 1 goal
Haynes offers a lot more pace and I'm not convinced BWPs movement is that much better than the rest.
I agree with Exiled. Better service would help, but you could say the same for any of our strikers. I don't think he causes enough problems at this level for defenders. Unless a player is an excellent poacher at this level (e.g. Kevin Phillips) they need something more to their game. He doesn't have that pace, power or skill to hurt defences.
Not unfair, BWP needs a couple of things to score goals, good service from the flank - something we clearly have not supplied this year - and opponents to play a high-line so he can get in behind them and not many teams in the CCC play a high-line.
Bournemouth have got more money than a lot in league 1 and are well placed.They were certainly unlucky to lose to us at their place last year and should have beaten Wigan in the cup away from home last weekend but were undone by a dodgy penalty . Looks like they have ambition and would certainly benefit from having BWP.There are already connections : Arter ,Hollands likely to go back there at some point and Francis.wages could be a stumbling block but I wouldn't bet against that move happening in the short term initially on loan .
was very impressed with BWP against Leicester + Derby (was it?)
Yup Derby he put in a good shift but nothing for it - therein lies the problem.
I think he's got a fair bit more to give us, given the chance, and would like to see him get it. If it starts clicking for him we'll converting a few more home draws to wins.
Is it me? BWP worth his place in the squad at the very least. Provides movement up front which we need. Dont really care who plays with him, but if we are planning any 2 from Hulse, Fuller and Kermongant god help us. I'm still trying to come to terms with the Leon Clarke situation. Shambles !!
Problem with BWP Is he needs 10 easy chances to score one goal. Can't afford that at this level. I definitely agree that his service is poor but I just can't get excited when he's through on goal 1 on 1. We need a player that takes his chances
Problem with BWP Is he needs 10 easy chances to score one goal. Can't afford that at this level. I definitely agree that his service is poor but I just can't get excited when he's through on goal 1 on 1. We need a player that takes his chances
I agree. With most of our strikers, when they get through on goal you expect them to score. With BWP it's more in hope than expectation. He just needs too many chances to score and we aren't creating enough to be able to afford that sort of player.
I don't think he's had fair crack this year and out of em all if they played the same matches I reckon he would get the most. He also offers movement and pace which our other forwards don't but CP doesn't see it that way
Fuller 8 starts 7 sub 3 goals Haynes 8 starts 3 sub 5 goals Hulse 10 starts 5 sub 3 goals Kermorgant 12 starts 3 sub 5 goals BWP 10 starts 6 sub 1 goal
Haynes offers a lot more pace and I'm not convinced BWPs movement is that much better than the rest.
I agree with Exiled. Better service would help, but you could say the same for any of our strikers. I don't think he causes enough problems at this level for defenders. Unless a player is an excellent poacher at this level (e.g. Kevin Phillips) they need something more to their game. He doesn't have that pace, power or skill to hurt defences.
Wow i didnt realise he had started 10 games this season!
I was in the , if he got the service and our midfield was better he would be more then good enough at this level.
Wont be a major loss if he goes as we have enough strikers, although we would still need a replacement or just promote Azeez maybe..
BWP took his goal brilliantly against Leicester, placing it from distance to beat the keeper.
He was desperately unlucky to see his goal wiped out by incompetent officials v Palace .... that would have given him a real boost in confidence.
And like most strikers, he's a confidence player - when his goals are going in regularly, he can't stop scoring; when he hits the inevitable lean patch, he wonders when he'll ever score again.
This season, we've seen a change in the way he's been told to play - covering more ground and running the channels hard, instead of being more of a box player. That has no doubt made him more of a team player - but at the cost of being on the end of chances?
Against Blackburn, he played the lone striker and worked his nuts off, not his natural role.
Added to all this, he hasn't had a proper run in the side for some time. Again, rather than occasional sub appearances for 10 or 15 mins, most players need a run of games to get sharpness and confidence.
BWP will come good again once he's playing regularly - but that might not be with Charlton.
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He'll convert 1 in 3, which is the decent striker's average.
Mind you, I do wince when I see him miss 1-on-1's.
C'mon Brad, you just need to be decisive - get as central as possible, take the keeper on as if he was a defender, drop a shoulder and accelerate past him.
;o)
Rob Hulse seemed to get into far more goalscoring positions while he was with us, playing ifn front of the same midfield. I know he didn't take them all and in fact missed a couple of sitters, but he did seem to have that happy knack of being in the right place at the right time.
That ability seems to have deserted BWP and that is what worries me. He's not a clinical one-on-one finisher that plays on the shoulders, neither has he been a fox-in-the-box poacher of late and he's not the kind of striker that can create chances for himself through pure skill or by being a physical battering ram.
He's good league 1 striker and a decent Championship squad player, imo, but if we are able to progress in the League and eventually get promoted I don't think he'll be one that stays with us for the ride.
Out of contract, nearly 28, the stigma of the "dodgy knee" and failed medicals in the past, one goal all season, most clubs watching the pennies.
Lucky to break much into 6 figures.
I would agree though that unless we're getting back what we paid for him, or getting him off the wage bill will mean we sign someone better there is no point getting rid now - it should have been done in the summer, imo, while his stock was still high.
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=527
Fuller 8 starts 7 sub 3 goals
Haynes 8 starts 3 sub 5 goals
Hulse 10 starts 5 sub 3 goals
Kermorgant 12 starts 3 sub 5 goals
BWP 10 starts 6 sub 1 goal
Haynes offers a lot more pace and I'm not convinced BWPs movement is that much better than the rest.
I agree with Exiled. Better service would help, but you could say the same for any of our strikers. I don't think he causes enough problems at this level for defenders. Unless a player is an excellent poacher at this level (e.g. Kevin Phillips) they need something more to their game. He doesn't have that pace, power or skill to hurt defences.
I think he's got a fair bit more to give us, given the chance, and would like to see him get it. If it starts clicking for him we'll converting a few more home draws to wins.
Shambles !!
I definitely agree that his service is poor but I just can't get excited when he's through on goal 1 on 1. We need a player that takes his chances
Done!
I'd rather keep BWP then let him go for £200k.
I was in the , if he got the service and our midfield was better he would be more then good enough at this level.
Wont be a major loss if he goes as we have enough strikers, although we would still need a replacement or just promote Azeez maybe..
He was desperately unlucky to see his goal wiped out by incompetent officials v Palace .... that would have given him a real boost in confidence.
And like most strikers, he's a confidence player - when his goals are going in regularly, he can't stop scoring; when he hits the inevitable lean patch, he wonders when he'll ever score again.
This season, we've seen a change in the way he's been told to play - covering more ground and running the channels hard, instead of being more of a box player. That has no doubt made him more of a team player - but at the cost of being on the end of chances?
Against Blackburn, he played the lone striker and worked his nuts off, not his natural role.
Added to all this, he hasn't had a proper run in the side for some time.
Again, rather than occasional sub appearances for 10 or 15 mins, most players need a run of games to get sharpness and confidence.
BWP will come good again once he's playing regularly - but that might not be with Charlton.