in the 2nd half Almunia made a decent save from BWP after good work from Fuller, then he saved one from Fuller with his feet. He also tipped the one out from under the bar at the end. Cant think of many more.
Yeah, the ball rarely reached as far as Almunia as the Cheatford defenders were getting in the way of pretty much everything.
Watford fan in peace. The sending off aside, imo you lost last night purely and simply because you played route 1 league 1 hoofball, even when we were down to 10 men, and that doesn't take advantage of having the extra man. Your midfielders could have gone off for a cup of tea and not been missed. And what is Powell doing playing 4 across the back when we only had Deeney up front? Sorry but Powell lost you the game, strange as a few comments here rip into Zola's tactical ability, I'd say Zola was the one manager who got his tactics spot on. Got to laugh describing us as average. Okay then if thats what you want to believe have it your way, we were given about £12M in footballers over the summer. Our lwb is a full international, so is our rwb, and our central playmaker, the dfmid loaned from Chelsea is England's hotest young prospect in years.... I could go on but I'm sure you get the point. I'm actually disappointed in how you play now as I always cheered for you guys in the premiership, you knew how to pass a ball around and play good attractive expansive football in those days. Ciao.
Well you are average. Slightly worse than average actually as until last night you were, what - 19th in the division? Fortunately for you we are even worse than average.
Otherwise I largely agree with your post, and personally have no problems with your mediterranean recruitment policy, except for Forestieri. Oh dear. Hudds fans warned us about him. Good luck this season. Always had a soft spot for Watford.
Watford ended up with 52% possession in a game where they played 50 minutes with 10 men. Thats shameful, we deserved to lose. CP needs to face up to the fact that the midfield/defence has no confidence, hence the backpassing and hoofball.
There is absolutely no way that statistic is correct.
To say Chalobah is a better English prospect than Sterling, The Ox and Wilshere is one of the weirdest football comments I've ever seen.
He is only 17 though or did I make that up?
Sterling is also 17 and playing in the Prem regularly and has just been called up to the U21s. Wilshere has been playing for England since he was 18 and I would say still a better prospect. Just found the comment very strange!
I hope Watford struggle this season, a horrible team to watch. You'd expect better from Zola. Sod being a Watford fan and watching that week in week out
Move solly back to right back, take out hollands add someone who can pass forwards and not backwards. Neither stephens or hollands join in at all up top.
Its plain and simple. There's no cutting egde or finally product in our play
I agree with most of this but did you see Stephens pass to set up our goal? So i'm not in agreement with comment about Stephens.
Just seen the BBC stats - we had 27 shots, 16 of which were on target, yet we only scored one goal. Watford had 19 shots, 10 on target and 2 goals. Just going by the statistics I wouldn't say we deserved to lose.
But of those 16 shots on target, hardly any actually got through the defence to the keeper, as the defenders blocked them all easily.
I'm pretty sure official stats only count those saved by goalie. Remember one of ours had one cleared off line but didn't make stats.
Look the reason we Went hoof ball is because hollands hid he did the oldest trick in a footballer not high on confidence or form
Its a thing that happens sub conciously i believe and that is that they stand close to an opposition player meaning they are unable to recieve an early pass
It also doesnt help himself as if a player doesnt notice that this is happening they play a ball into you that you must control and pass on instantly
This happend loads in the first half and danny gave the ball away far to often so danny reverted to playing the ball straight back to the defender he just got it from
Most of the defense were fine for most of the match allowing for the fact that Solly is ruled out as an attacking option playing on the left and Wilson is willing but incapable beyond the halfway line, which is one better than Green or Stephens who hid for about 85 minutes abrogating responsibility at every opportunity, by the 2nd half Stephens's 20 yard passes were arriving 5 yards off target, poor old Danny Hollands has to do the work of 2 cos DS is AWOL when opposition has the ball - 1 good pass does not warrant selection Dale!! SCP stood and watched Plan A failing and did nothing until the 79th minute - then he leaves the worst offender on the pitch. Watford executed their cynical negative game plan as effectively as they are able and despite them being a genuinely poor side that was more than enough to beat Charlton. Yes we might have had a little more luck and Mike Dean was horribly inconsistent but beating Watford was simply a case of picking the right people in the right places (ie Evina as LB Solly at RB) and all of the players doing their jobs properly - Watford had 10 players for half the match but with Green's & Stephens's opting out Charlton had to make do with 8.5.
What was going through Corts head when he decided to bear hug Deeney?Such a stupid challenge and that was the gift they took.
Cort did exactly the same minutes before IN the penalty area Watford all appealed and Dean waved it away, outside the box though it's a foul apparently. Yes Cort made a mistake but what chance has he got when the ref makes it up as he goes along?
Some comments on here about CP getting his tactics wrong. No he didn't. He matched up with the oppositions 4-4-2 and changed to 3-4-3 when chasing the game against a team playing 4-5-0. What's the point of having a Back Four against one or no strikers? Perfectly sound tactics.
The game was lost because three or four individuals produced below standard performances. As a team we lacked composure inside the last third, with erratic finishing and a lack of accuracy in the final pass or cross. Individual errors cost us 2 goals and we struggled against quick counter-attacks through the middle. Too many individuals were caught the wrong side of the ball, too often.
Watford's style of play was no surprise, judging by the thread started by the Huddersfield fan. Their anti-football was particularly effective, involving cheating, diving, play-acting & time-wasting. Well done, that'll bring the crowds back to their derelict stadium.
Most of the defense were fine for most of the match allowing for the fact that Solly is ruled out as an attacking option playing on the left and Wilson is willing but incapable beyond the halfway line, which is one better than Green or Stephens who hid for about 85 minutes abrogating responsibility at every opportunity, by the 2nd half Stephens's 20 yard passes were arriving 5 yards off target, poor old Danny Hollands has to do the work of 2 cos DS is AWOL when opposition has the ball - 1 good pass does not warrant selection Dale!! SCP stood and watched Plan A failing and did nothing until the 79th minute - then he leaves the worst offender on the pitch. Watford executed their cynical negative game plan as effectively as they are able and despite them being a genuinely poor side that was more than enough to beat Charlton. Yes we might have had a little more luck and Mike Dean was horribly inconsistent but beating Watford was simply a case of picking the right people in the right places (ie Evina as LB Solly at RB) and all of the players doing their jobs properly - Watford had 10 players for half the match but with Green's & Stephens's opting out Charlton had to make do with 8.5.
Dale Stephens and Hollands
in my view it was Hollands who abdicated responsibility And dale although woeful at decision making bar the pass to fuller was available for the pass
But if both players were doing the same and maybe they were as I just kept my eyes on DH then it might explain why SCP didn't sub Hollands earlier
Some comments on here about CP getting his tactics wrong. No he didn't. He matched up with the oppositions 4-4-2 and changed to 3-4-3 when chasing the game against a team playing 4-5-0. What's the point of having a Back Four against one or no strikers? Perfectly sound tactics.
Watford didn't play 4-4-2.
They played a variation of 3-5-2, albeit with the diver slightly off Deeney.
Razak will start once he's match fit and Hollands probably knows that. Danny for me is looking too slow for this level a touch to get it under control and then pass takes slows us down. Hope he can step up and prove me wrong.
Absolutely sickener but at the end of the day you have to put teams like watford away especially as they only had 10 men for half the game. No need to panic quite yet but the upcoming games don't exactly breed confidence. We have to start putting our chances away or it will be a long hard season.
Most of the defense were fine for most of the match allowing for the fact that Solly is ruled out as an attacking option playing on the left and Wilson is willing but incapable beyond the halfway line, which is one better than Green or Stephens who hid for about 85 minutes abrogating responsibility at every opportunity, by the 2nd half Stephens's 20 yard passes were arriving 5 yards off target, poor old Danny Hollands has to do the work of 2 cos DS is AWOL when opposition has the ball - 1 good pass does not warrant selection Dale!! SCP stood and watched Plan A failing and did nothing until the 79th minute - then he leaves the worst offender on the pitch. Watford executed their cynical negative game plan as effectively as they are able and despite them being a genuinely poor side that was more than enough to beat Charlton. Yes we might have had a little more luck and Mike Dean was horribly inconsistent but beating Watford was simply a case of picking the right people in the right places (ie Evina as LB Solly at RB) and all of the players doing their jobs properly - Watford had 10 players for half the match but with Green's & Stephens's opting out Charlton had to make do with 8.5.
Just seen the BBC stats - we had 27 shots, 16 of which were on target, yet we only scored one goal. Watford had 19 shots, 10 on target and 2 goals. Just going by the statistics I wouldn't say we deserved to lose.
you've misread the BBC's stats, what it actually says is we had 16 shots of which 11 were on target
Most of the defense were fine for most of the match allowing for the fact that Solly is ruled out as an attacking option playing on the left and Wilson is willing but incapable beyond the halfway line, which is one better than Green or Stephens who hid for about 85 minutes abrogating responsibility at every opportunity, by the 2nd half Stephens's 20 yard passes were arriving 5 yards off target, poor old Danny Hollands has to do the work of 2 cos DS is AWOL when opposition has the ball - 1 good pass does not warrant selection Dale!! SCP stood and watched Plan A failing and did nothing until the 79th minute - then he leaves the worst offender on the pitch. Watford executed their cynical negative game plan as effectively as they are able and despite them being a genuinely poor side that was more than enough to beat Charlton. Yes we might have had a little more luck and Mike Dean was horribly inconsistent but beating Watford was simply a case of picking the right people in the right places (ie Evina as LB Solly at RB) and all of the players doing their jobs properly - Watford had 10 players for half the match but with Green's & Stephens's opting out Charlton had to make do with 8.5.
Seem to remember Evina being very shaky last season in the odd appearance he made at the Valley. Can't remember who it was against. Powell knows the players better than anyone - if he believes Solly at LB is currently a safer option (during a difficult opening patch to the season) than the inexperienced Evina, then you have to trust him. Likewise, could he seriously haved dropped Hollands last night for a boy, albeit with a good reputation, who he has known for 5 minutes?
I have tryed not to slag players off from what was a big hearted display! Balls being huthed into the box aside! Hollands and stephens yes they cant play together as lifers have said! So bring razak in, hollands out( even thought I like him) green out agen! Wilson right wing solly back to right back, evina has to be given a chance now! Or maybe go with 4-5-1 going with hamer,solly,evina,morrison,cort,wilson,
We were better Saturday but should have at least got a draw. Didn't take the decent chances that we did create.
As said we became too predictable with the number of crosses from deep.
Midfield once again was the weakest area of the team. Stephens will do well with the right players around him. Hollands is limited at this level. Kerkar is ok, guess he'll get a good run in the team as we have don't have many options on the left of midfield. Green has been better than last season but still needs to improve.
Will be worried if we line up in a 4-4-2 v Blackpool. It's not clear what our best team and formation and it feels like Powell's not completely sure either.
Watford ended up with 52% possession in a game where they played 50 minutes with 10 men. Thats shameful, we deserved to lose. CP needs to face up to the fact that the midfield/defence has no confidence, hence the backpassing and hoofball.
There is absolutely no way that statistic is correct.
Not sure if that's from the BBC but on Saturday they had Wolves as having 97% possession at one stage during the game
Just seen the BBC stats - we had 27 shots, 16 of which were on target, yet we only scored one goal. Watford had 19 shots, 10 on target and 2 goals. Just going by the statistics I wouldn't say we deserved to lose.
you've misread the BBC's stats, what it actually says is we had 16 shots of which 11 were on target
Damn lies and statistics! Well, my point still holds - we had more shots than them and more of them on target.
I think with the whole Evina thing, we lose more without solly right back than we would risking an inexperienced Evina at left back, if that makes sense. Green should be allowed an off day when he's been playing well lately. That's just a problem with wingers, they aren't consistent. Solly back at RB for me.
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Otherwise I largely agree with your post, and personally have no problems with your mediterranean recruitment policy, except for Forestieri. Oh dear. Hudds fans warned us about him. Good luck this season. Always had a soft spot for Watford.
Went hoof ball is because hollands hid he did the oldest trick in a footballer not high on confidence or form
Its a thing that happens sub conciously i believe and that is that they stand close to an opposition player meaning they are unable to recieve an early pass
It also doesnt help himself as if a player doesnt notice that this is happening they play a ball into you that you must control and pass on instantly
This happend loads in the first half and danny gave the ball away far to often so danny reverted to playing the ball straight back to the defender he just got it from
The defender then pumped it long
Watford executed their cynical negative game plan as effectively as they are able and despite them being a genuinely poor side that was more than enough to beat Charlton.
Yes we might have had a little more luck and Mike Dean was horribly inconsistent but beating Watford was simply a case of picking the right people in the right places (ie Evina as LB Solly at RB) and all of the players doing their jobs properly - Watford had 10 players for half the match but with Green's & Stephens's opting out Charlton had to make do with 8.5.
The game was lost because three or four individuals produced below standard performances. As a team we lacked composure inside the last third, with erratic finishing and a lack of accuracy in the final pass or cross. Individual errors cost us 2 goals and we struggled against quick counter-attacks through the middle. Too many individuals were caught the wrong side of the ball, too often.
Watford's style of play was no surprise, judging by the thread started by the Huddersfield fan. Their anti-football was particularly effective, involving cheating, diving, play-acting & time-wasting. Well done, that'll bring the crowds back to their derelict stadium.
Dale Stephens and Hollands
in my view it was Hollands who abdicated responsibility And dale although woeful at decision making bar the pass to fuller was available for the pass
But if both players were doing the same and maybe they were as I just kept my eyes on DH then it might explain why SCP didn't sub Hollands earlier
As I don't suppose you would want to sub both CM
They played a variation of 3-5-2, albeit with the diver slightly off Deeney.
I agreed with the referee's decision, that was a deliberate back pass, not a slice.
As said we became too predictable with the number of crosses from deep.
Midfield once again was the weakest area of the team. Stephens will do well with the right players around him. Hollands is limited at this level. Kerkar is ok, guess he'll get a good run in the team as we have don't have many options on the left of midfield. Green has been better than last season but still needs to improve.
Will be worried if we line up in a 4-4-2 v Blackpool. It's not clear what our best team and formation and it feels like Powell's not completely sure either.
Not sure if that's from the BBC but on Saturday they had Wolves as having 97% possession at one stage during the game
Green should be allowed an off day when he's been playing well lately. That's just a problem with wingers, they aren't consistent.
Solly back at RB for me.