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Re The Carlisle Pitch Invasion.

edited April 2012 in General Charlton
Iv'e just phoned The FA to complain about their ridiculous communication to our club asking (amongst other things) 'what happened at Carlisle'.
I told them what happened.
Exactly the same thing as has happened a thousand times over many decades....your team wins promotion and fans go on the pitch to celebrate 'at the end of the game'...........doesn't need rocket science to answer that does it.
I also mentioned the Reading scenario....with thousands on the pitch and asked them to look at that and then think it through. Ended up telling them they are ruining folks 'harmless' traditional enjoyment under the guise of some dreamed up and largely pointless 'Health & Saftey' issues that are totally OTT.
Anyone else fancies bending their ears...here's the number 0207-745-4545.
Just remember to tell them you are only a fan airing your views on the matter and nothing to do directly with the club.
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    So if we won promotion at Millwall would it be ok to invade the pitch? You need to think this one through soundasa£, in a perfect world full of well meaning gentle folk you'd be right, I dont think we live in that world though do we?
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    So if we won promotion at Millwall would it be ok to invade the pitch? You need to think this one through soundasa£, in a perfect world full of well meaning gentle folk you'd be right, I dont think we live in that world though do we?
    But that's half the point isn't it? We were't at Millwall, we were at Carlisle, where lets be honest there was not much chance of trouble. I think what everyone wants is just some common sense from the FA. Surely they could have looked at the situation, realize it was pure joy rather than anyone actually causing trouble and let it go?
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    edited April 2012
    The FA have to say something and be seen to be doing something. They will send the same letter out to Reading and when both the reply comes back they will bin it, just like Charlton would have done and Reading.
    If it was really that important the club would not have publicly said they will not be doing anything.
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    Why do people feel entitled to be allowed on the pitch ?
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    I'm glad I didn't have to be on the end of that phone call. I bet the person who was, listened and made copious notes about your issue and didn't once think rude words in your direction.
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    Why do people feel entitled to be allowed on the pitch ?
    They don't . They are happy , emotional and spontaneous . Nothing about entitlement at all. Let people celebrate . In a Charlton Supporters lifetime the chances are few and far between.
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    Because we are the club, the players are ours their joy is our joy



    And we want to share with them
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    Was it a voicemail or did you have someone on the other end trying to be sympathetic to your issue.

    the way i see it:

    the team wins promotion, the fans run on the pitch, the club get a letter from the FA telling them off

    end of story.
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    getting on the pitch is a natural thing if we get a last minute winner sat and then sheff united get beat it will happen it happens at all clubs
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    getting on the pitch is a natural thing if we get a last minute winner sat and then sheff united get beat it will happen it happens at all clubs
    Agreed. And as Suzi says, the next natural step if for the FA to send a letter to the club telling them off. I really think some people have blown this way out of proportion. Its not like we've been banned for having fans at the next game of something.
    It is yet another example of Charlton fans having to fund things to complain about.
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    Why do people feel entitled to be allowed on the pitch ?
    They don't . They are happy , emotional and spontaneous . Nothing about entitlement at all. Let people celebrate . In a Charlton Supporters lifetime the chances are few and far between.

    That sounds fair enough to me

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    Is it me or are we going round in circles? People seem to be in agreement yet are still arguing.
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    Is it me or are we going round in circles? People seem to be in agreement yet are still arguing.
    No they're not!
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    I dont think we need another thread about it and I certainly dont think the FA need to be called about it and I dont think Soundasa$ should be getting his knickers in a twist about it. let it go.
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    Is it me or are we going round in circles? People seem to be in agreement yet are still arguing.
    No they're not!
    They are, you know. ;-)
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    wonder who was the last club to win promotion or even greater still the title and not invade the pitch? ..how odd
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    I think the club just wanted to make it clearer to us because they want to be able to present the trophy at the last game (if we are champions). If the pitch is covered with fans they wont. that's all.
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    wonder who was the last club to win promotion or even greater still the title and not invade the pitch? ..how odd
    Man Utd.

    Next question.
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    they win it near every year its boring to them
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    they win it near every year its boring to them
    Same as the Barca fans and I know there is another thread running concurrently but how gutted they looked at the end of last night's match superbly summed up by Adrian Childs who said something to the effect of 'how do you like em that's what the vast majority of football fans experience on a regular basis'.
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    edited April 2012
    suzi......I had let it go....however this was being 'high lighted' this morning on Sky Sports News (did anyone else pick up on it?) and has certainly gone out to a far wider audience within the last 24 hours.
    Given that other media are making a bigger deal out of it I consider it well worth the effort to contact The FA to point out on behalf of the vast majority of fans that each case should be taken on it's merits....where possible.
    DRF........some folk are pro active by nature, you sound like the sort of guy who will accept anything, ergo complaing about something that is clearly wrong is then considered to be 'moaning' by you if you don't happen to agree with the sentiments of their case.....well I don't....and yes it is something to have a pop about where MY club and fellow fans are being singled out for what was a very minor infraction of the mighty FA's directives.
    Are you all aware that we (CAFC) have been 'specificly' warned not to allow fans onto the pitch for our last three games....this was also highlighted on Sky Sports News....it was this statement that tipped the scales and (as suzi describes it) 'got my knickers in a twist' and I think, quite justifiably.
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    Is it known if Reading have received a similar communication, and have they also declined to 'name' the fans involved in their pitch invasion of their own ground?
    Notwithstanding excitement/emotion/etc, the clubs' safety certificates and ground regulations prohibit 'Entry onto the playing area' - as on P.5 of the small print in your s/t books, so this is presumably just a compliance reminder :-)
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    Is it known if Reading have received a similar communication, and have they also declined to 'name' the fans involved in their pitch invasion of their own ground?
    Notwithstanding excitement/emotion/etc, the clubs' safety certificates and ground regulations prohibit 'Entry onto the playing area' - as on P.5 of the small print in your s/t books, so this is presumably just a compliance reminder :-)
    True Solar....but for some reason it seems to have been picked up by some of the media....I assume because they feel it's somewhat unfair where promotion celebrations are concerned....'after' the final whistle.

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    Are Sky Sports replaying some of our footage from Saturday then? If so I'm gonna have to go sit by the TV.
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    Was Olly there ?
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    suzi......I had let it go....however this was being 'high lighted' this morning on Sky Sports News (did anyone else pick up on it?) and has certainly gone out to a far wider audience within the last 24 hours.
    Given that other media are making a bigger deal out of it I consider it well worth the effort to contact The FA to point out on behalf of the vast majority of fans that each case should be taken on it's merits....where possible.
    DRF........some folk are pro active by nature, you sound like the sort of guy who will accept anything, ergo complaing about something that is clearly wrong is then considered to be 'moaning' by you if you don't happen to agree with the sentiments of their case.....well I don't....and yes it is something to have a pop about where MY club and fellow fans are being singled out for what was a very minor infraction of the mighty FA's directives.
    Are you all aware that we (CAFC) have been 'specificly' warned not to allow fans onto the pitch for our last three games....this was also highlighted on Sky Sports News....it was this statement that tipped the scales and (as suzi describes it) 'got my knickers in a twist' and I think, quite justifiably.
    I am certainly not the type to sit back and let injustice go unremarked. However, I don't agree with people complaining about being told off when they have knowingly broken the rules. People know they should not invade the pitch, everyone understands why they did. It's like people who complain about speeding tickets because police should be investigating proper crime rather than simply admitting they were driving faster than the speed limit which they were fully aware of.

    I also feel for the person who was (probably) not in the least involved / interested, who had to listen to your complaint.

    Man up, take it and save the wraith for times when it is justified.
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    suzi......I had let it go....however this was being 'high lighted' this morning on Sky Sports News (did anyone else pick up on it?) and has certainly gone out to a far wider audience within the last 24 hours.
    Given that other media are making a bigger deal out of it I consider it well worth the effort to contact The FA to point out on behalf of the vast majority of fans that each case should be taken on it's merits....where possible.
    DRF........some folk are pro active by nature, you sound like the sort of guy who will accept anything, ergo complaing about something that is clearly wrong is then considered to be 'moaning' by you if you don't happen to agree with the sentiments of their case.....well I don't....and yes it is something to have a pop about where MY club and fellow fans are being singled out for what was a very minor infraction of the mighty FA's directives.
    Are you all aware that we (CAFC) have been 'specificly' warned not to allow fans onto the pitch for our last three games....this was also highlighted on Sky Sports News....it was this statement that tipped the scales and (as suzi describes it) 'got my knickers in a twist' and I think, quite justifiably.
    I am certainly not the type to sit back and let injustice go unremarked. However, I don't agree with people complaining about being told off when they have knowingly broken the rules. People know they should not invade the pitch, everyone understands why they did. It's like people who complain about speeding tickets because police should be investigating proper crime rather than simply admitting they were driving faster than the speed limit which they were fully aware of.

    I also feel for the person who was (probably) not in the least involved / interested, who had to listen to your complaint.

    Man up, take it and save the wraith for times when it is justified.</blockquote

    Sighhhhhhhh....bangs head repeatedly on desk!

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    Don't stop.....
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    edited April 2012
    Possibly a silly question and one that may have been answered in the other thread but I didn't see it.

    Aren't Carlisle just as liable for what happened on Saturday? Given it was their ground therefore their stewards/ police etc.?

    I'm not really defending what happened but just interesting as I'm not sure how CAFC could have done anything to stop the fans going on the pitch there, at home would be a different matter.
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    Hang on lads I've got to pop out for some provisions can you call a truce for an hour until I get back, much rather follow developments live. Cheers.
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