UKIP are never going to be the largest party able the form a goverment and at best they would only be a coalition partner so what policies do they need. The Liberals abandond must of their policies to be part of the goverment. The Valley Party did not win any seats but sure put the wind up the Labour Party in Greenwich.
Politicians of courage and conviction are never universally popular. Enoch Powell was derided and outcasted for a speech he delivered in 1968 much of which has unfortunately since come to pass. Mass uncontrolled immigration is now causing major problems throughout the Northern Hemisphere. The world is in desperate need of more such individuals, rather than the current lilly livered, politically correct mob who have a propensity to avoid and defer making the tough decisions for fear of upsetting the vocal minorities. I have no idea if Farage is such a leader, but I have been very impressed with his outspoken speeches in the European Parliament.
I couldn't vote UKIP ever. Whilst I understand where their motivation is coming from on issues around the EU, immigration etc I just find their position about it too xenophobic and jingoistic.
Their popularity is down to the fact that folk want a protest vote against the establishment. They like Farage's somewhat clubbable demeanour and what to most people sounds like straight talking arguments. That's what you get on the surface but if you scratch beneath (which few voters will do) you get crackpot policies and crackpot candidates.
It seems to me that anyone who wants to stand for election but has failed to make the cut with Labour, Tories or LibDem gets a shot with UKIP - which for me is another reason never to cast a ballot in their general direction. Just how ridiculous is Godfrey Bloom, for example?
As regards the issue with Douglas Carswell and the Clacton by-election, whilst I disagree with him I like his honesty in not just crossing the floor but to resign as an MP and let his electorate decide if he is right or not. A rare sign of a principled politician? Either way his new-found allegiance is a sign that Cameron is as out of touch with his Party as he is with Joe Average - and both of those are down to him surrounding himself with old school chums who don't grasp much reality either.
That said about the Tories, they seem to me to have more of an overall feel for reality than Millipede & Co. or the LibDems - although it's not a huge amount more.
So bringing my post back round to UKIP - is it any wonder that folk vote for them?
Politicians of courage and conviction are never universally popular. Enoch Powell was derided and outcasted for a speech he delivered in 1968 much of which has unfortunately since come to pass. Mass uncontrolled immigration is now causing major problems throughout the Northern Hemisphere. The world is in desperate need of more such individuals, rather than the current lilly livered, politically correct mob who have a propensity to avoid and defer making the tough decisions for fear of upsetting the vocal minorities. I have no idea if Farage is such a leader, but I have been very impressed with his outspoken speeches in the European Parliament.
I assume your not one of our migrants in Oz?
Yes I am, and it took me four years and two appeals to finally be granted a visa having had to pass a very strict points system. My argument is not with migration, had you read what I said, I said "mass uncontrolled immigration".
I couldn't vote UKIP ever. Whilst I understand where their motivation is coming from on issues around the EU, immigration etc I just find their position about it too xenophobic and jingoistic.
Their popularity is down to the fact that folk want a protest vote against the establishment. They like Farage's somewhat clubbable demeanour and what to most people sounds like straight talking arguments. That's what you get on the surface but if you scratch beneath (which few voters will do) you get crackpot policies and crackpot candidates.
It seems to me that anyone who wants to stand for election but has failed to make the cut with Labour, Tories or LibDem gets a shot with UKIP - which for me is another reason never to cast a ballot in their general direction. Just how ridiculous is Godfrey Bloom, for example?
As regards the issue with Douglas Carswell and the Clacton by-election, whilst I disagree with him I like his honesty in not just crossing the floor but to resign as an MP and let his electorate decide if he is right or not. A rare sign of a principled politician? Either way his new-found allegiance is a sign that Cameron is as out of touch with his Party as he is with Joe Average - and both of those are down to him surrounding himself with old school chums who don't grasp much reality either.
That said about the Tories, they seem to me to have more of an overall feel for reality than Millipede & Co. or the LibDems - although it's not a huge amount more.
So bringing my post back round to UKIP - is it any wonder that folk vote for them?
Maybe you should scratch beneath the surface of the other parties.
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Their popularity is down to the fact that folk want a protest vote against the establishment. They like Farage's somewhat clubbable demeanour and what to most people sounds like straight talking arguments. That's what you get on the surface but if you scratch beneath (which few voters will do) you get crackpot policies and crackpot candidates.
It seems to me that anyone who wants to stand for election but has failed to make the cut with Labour, Tories or LibDem gets a shot with UKIP - which for me is another reason never to cast a ballot in their general direction. Just how ridiculous is Godfrey Bloom, for example?
As regards the issue with Douglas Carswell and the Clacton by-election, whilst I disagree with him I like his honesty in not just crossing the floor but to resign as an MP and let his electorate decide if he is right or not. A rare sign of a principled politician? Either way his new-found allegiance is a sign that Cameron is as out of touch with his Party as he is with Joe Average - and both of those are down to him surrounding himself with old school chums who don't grasp much reality either.
That said about the Tories, they seem to me to have more of an overall feel for reality than Millipede & Co. or the LibDems - although it's not a huge amount more.
So bringing my post back round to UKIP - is it any wonder that folk vote for them?
These fringe parties get more votes in by elections / council or county elections than in general elections.
People use their vote to protest, but when it comes to the main event, they revert back to type.
http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/wfnews/11217704.Gun_offence_Tory_to_be_sentenced_today/
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/flintshire-councillor-banned-bullying-disqualification-7127671
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/kingstonnews/11216830.Kingston_councillor_charged_with_benefit_fraud_will_face_polls_before_court/
http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Conservative-councillor-handed-ban-drink-driving/story-21093349-detail/story.html
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/five-middlesbrough-councillors-resign-labour-7080454
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-liberal-councillor-steve-radford-7122909
All of these were around the time of the european elections. There is more, but i'm sure you get the point.