Eltham stood today. Charlton, Millwall, West Ham and just locals. police closed pub at 6.30pm for no reason, which was very stupid.
People tried to march to lewisham but got stopped by loads and loads of police. Prob around 300 of us. Police siad they appreciate everyones help but they could not just let hundred of people go to Lewisham.
Heard on police radio " we have stoped the white group getting towards the black group" even though I did not see any "groups" of black people..
it is so sad that our own police force have not been allowed to be "aggressive" since it got worse on sunday night
at the beginning if they'd gone in too hard everyone would have said it's turned into this cos of the way police behaved
but clearly the softly softly approach has led to all the morons knowing they aren't in too much danger so they can literally go out there and take the pee out of the old bill and behave how they want
i feel sorry for the old bill having these divs giving it to them
i also feel embarrassed to what this country has allowed to happen , scenes that have to be seen to be believed
the sad truth is an iron fist needs to be seen for these twats to realise there is a downside to going out to cause trouble and loot
put the fear of god in em and they'll be back to the sewers where they came from double quick
and there is no doubt the parents are to blame cos i know that when i did wrong as a kid i was more worried about me folks finding out and the consequences that followed , discipline and respect has not been taught to these fools
sad sad times and as pointed out above all this trouble will give ammunition to certain groups to back up their backward views
Well said ooh aah. The only decent thing that might come out of this is that decent people of all backgrounds might become closer and make a stand together... But generally thoroughly depressing.
It's driving me mad listening to these people talking about how this is an uprising against the lack of opportunity and poverty!
There are people in the world who have real poverty, who have a choice of drinking dirty diseased water or not having a drink at all, who are fortunate to have meal a week and own a piece of clothing.
These thugs running round fully clothed, with mobiles, homes to go to and food to eat are just driven by greed.
It's inexcusable, mindless greed driven vandalism and theft.
@drawnablank.....very true my friend.....people here who scream poverty and lack of opportunity need to have a reality check. I have been fortunate in the past to work in The Philippines, (for about 2 years) if people want to see poverty then go there! Whole families living in makeshift homes - made out of corrugated tin and cardboard - bedrooms are living areas, kitchens are gas camping stoves set up outside and there is no sanitation to speak of. Then you will see them drinking and washing from rivers that are filthy, yet they get up everyday and go to work where they earn enough to feed their family on rice and fish. They are also some of the most polite and courteous people I have ever met and they don't riot. They also have to put up with earthquakes and tornadoes, I have been there when both have occurred, and I was in a well built and safe building, but still scared me sxxtless, yet these people just get on and do what they can to survive and improve their situation....many of them working 18 hours a day to EARN money. There is no benefit system to speak of in The Philippines so they have to survive for themselves and they are not a well known third world country with the rich west bailing them out!!
If I would suggest one thing it would be to send these scrota, once they have cleared up the damage they caused here as part of their punishment, to The Philippines and get them to live out there about 1 year .....then they will know what real poverty is.....but believe me they will have to work their nuts off just to survive!!
Oh and I don't care how hard they think they are...if they act up they will go to prison.....if you want to know what that's like then just Google Filipino prisoners.....they will have to dance to survive!!!
How's that defending the streets. A group of people running up the middle of the road terrifying car drivers shouting and swearing. Sure they weren't busting windows, but it's not exactly the Guardian fcking Angels either, is it?
Met Police are now calling for retired officers and volunteers to help - there is a number to call to offer your services - unbelieveable. I actually think that the rioters will now think twice, as they will soon get their arses kicked by the 'community' - hopefully , the community group spirit that was seen last night in London will spread to other areas in London and across the UK.
Met Police are now calling for retired officers and volunteers to help - there is a number to call to offer your services - unbelieveable. I actually think that the rioters will now think twice, as they will soon get their arses kicked by the 'community' - hopefully , the community group spirit that was seen last night in London will spread to other areas in London and across the UK.
How's that defending the streets. A group of people running up the middle of the road terrifying car drivers shouting and swearing. Sure they weren't busting windows, but it's not exactly the Guardian fcking Angels either, is it?
They were chasing rioters/hoodies/little pig shits further up the road. Think what would have happened again in enfield if they weren't there to protect there community
As an ex Police Officer from the 50's and 60's I could easily take part in this debate. However can I point out that you are all discussing the end point of a process that begins when a child is born. The Government ( when they concentrate on the big picture instead of just themselves ) should be looking at how the Country has reached a point where hooligans, thieves and various morons are prepared to organise criminal activity, setting fire to buildings, ruining peoples lives, and what was inevitable causing deaths now. The process begins with the childs parents, then on to their School education, and is heavily influenced by their social surroundings. Standards of behaviour have lowered consistently during my lifetime, and until the powers that be wake up and understand what is needed that process will continue. I give thanks every day that I am approaching the end of my life, if I was a youngster I would be out of this Country like a shot.
Looks like the Met Police have now changed the volunteers's criteria - yesterday they were requesting retired officers and any volunteers to assist Police. They have now re-worded it to retired officers and 'special forces volunteers' whatever they are.
I was in Eltham last night and SE9 is correct . Nothing much happended but it was good to see people prepared to defend the area . Charlton , Millwall and locals although its just getting reported as Millwall fans this morning
Following on from my earlier post about putting these people out in Philippines......here's a link to what the Filipino prisoners have to do..like it or not....would make me laugh to see them having to do this-:
How's that defending the streets. A group of people running up the middle of the road terrifying car drivers shouting and swearing. Sure they weren't busting windows, but it's not exactly the Guardian fcking Angels either, is it?
I notice how there is no mention of Sikhs with swords in your comment, I guess its ok to bash these people for defending there areas because they are mainly white and singing England songs.
There was footage on Sky News this morning showing Eltham last night and it was described a 'disturbance' that was dealt with by Police - it clearly showed a large group of mainly white males in t-shirts (no hoodies or masks) who were much older than the rioters. No mention that they were there to prevent the looting.
Three males were killed last night in Birmingham after being hit by a car. There are conflicting reports that the males were part of a group that were 'looting' and then later on claimed that they were part of a group 'protecting the community' according to their families. Either way its hard to justify if it was a deliberate act, like the shooting of the male in Croydon after it was claimed that he had been looting, as reported by The Times.
Kent Fire Brigade asked for volenteers last night, they were eriously worried that trouble would explode in numerous places across the county. So they asked for off duty parttime workers (like me) to make ourselves available for extra duty if required. I signed up, at times like these the emergency services are needed more than ever.
The Police are finally getting the respect they deserve, they do a difficult job whilst being hamstrung by the courts and legislation forced upon them by pc politicians.
How's that defending the streets. A group of people running up the middle of the road terrifying car drivers shouting and swearing. Sure they weren't busting windows, but it's not exactly the Guardian fcking Angels either, is it?
I notice how there is no mention of Sikhs with swords in your comment, I guess its ok to bash these people for defending there areas because they are mainly white and singing England songs.
Im glad everyone in London had a safer night, just hope its clamped down over the rest of the country now.
The Police are finally getting the respect they deserve, they do a difficult job whilst being hamstrung by the courts and legislation forced upon them by pc politicians.
Steady on there! It situations like this they earn respect but there will be plenty of situations in the future where they will lose it again. It's a worry that we've had vigilante groups roaming the streets a year before The Olympics! Also quite a few do the majority of them no favours at all.
How's that defending the streets. A group of people running up the middle of the road terrifying car drivers shouting and swearing. Sure they weren't busting windows, but it's not exactly the Guardian fcking Angels either, is it?
I notice how there is no mention of Sikhs with swords in your comment, I guess its ok to bash these people for defending there areas because they are mainly white and singing England songs.
Im glad everyone in London had a safer night, just hope its clamped down over the rest of the country now.
Perhaps The Sikhs should be protecting more than one building? The whole argument about one being in the right and the other isn't is absurd. Well done to both groups.
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Eltham stood today. Charlton, Millwall, West Ham and just locals. police closed pub at 6.30pm for no reason, which was very stupid.
People tried to march to lewisham but got stopped by loads and loads of police. Prob around 300 of us. Police siad they appreciate everyones help but they could not just let hundred of people go to Lewisham.
Heard on police radio " we have stoped the white group getting towards the black group" even though I did not see any "groups" of black people..
They were chasing rioters/hoodies/little pig shits further up the road. Think what would have happened again in enfield if they weren't there to protect there community
Its 0207 109 6526 - its on Sky News. Don't worry its not a Chat Line or anything dodgy!
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337
It would have more credibility if they spell checked it first.
How does one "loose" a benefit?
Not to say that I don't agree with the sentiments though.
The Police are finally getting the respect they deserve, they do a difficult job whilst being hamstrung by the courts and legislation forced upon them by pc politicians.
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