sorry Shine166 but it was also confirmed that Duggan WAS carrying a gun as defined as a gun under the Firearms Act and that even though he didn't fire it there was a bullet in the chamber so he was preapred to fire it. What is a Policeman supposed to do, wait until he's been shot dead before returning fire. If Duggan hadn't been carrying the gun he'd be alive today. Simples.
You cant say fairer then that. He put himself in that situation, therefore it's his own fault!!!!
What WSS said. There not bothered about protecting our area. They know there's a chance of having a ruck. I want the rioters to get a slap as much as anyone but at the end of the day if the rioters don't turn up the millwall fans will prob start with the police
My god, London's just been torched by gangs of feral youth, and you're worried about football lads mobbing up in Eltham to protect the area. Open your eyes.
What WSS said. There not bothered about protecting our area. They know there's a chance of having a ruck. I want the rioters to get a slap as much as anyone but at the end of the day if the rioters don't turn up the millwall fans will prob start with the police
My god, London's just been torched by gangs of feral youth, and you're worried about football lads mobbing up in Eltham to protect the area. Open your eyes.
Agree. I dont care for that football violence malarky but after the past 48 hrs i would like the scum to get some payback and a lesson to mind their manners in future.
Thousands of people have been saying how these animals should be stopped in the last couple of days and at least these lot in Eltham have actually stood up to do something. If enough decent people got out in the streets and made a stand (ie a presence, doesnt have to be violent) you wouldnt see any looting, pensioners being put in intensive care, homes and business razed and the horror that weve witnessed.
Scumbag with a loaded gun got shot by rozzers.....what is there to have a problem with?
I wouldn't mind a few trigger happy OB out on the streets tonight - might deter a few scumbags and get the welfare bill reduced in one fell swoop.
yer presume it was loaded, after all everyone presumed he shot the police man
Yup had one in the chamber twat
fucking bellend, I was right he didnt fire a shot so all you still giving me greif can either continue doing so or just acnknolege I was correct on that little FACT ...fact as in proven
What WSS said. There not bothered about protecting our area. They know there's a chance of having a ruck. I want the rioters to get a slap as much as anyone but at the end of the day if the rioters don't turn up the millwall fans will prob start with the police
My god, London's just been torched by gangs of feral youth, and you're worried about football lads mobbing up in Eltham to protect the area. Open your eyes.
Agree. I dont care for that football violence malarky but after the past 48 hrs i would like the scum to get some payback and a lesson to mind their manners in future.
Thousands of people have been saying how these animals should be stopped in the last couple of days and at least these lot in Eltham have actually stood up to do something. If enough decent people got out in the streets and made a stand (ie a presence, doesnt have to be violent) you wouldnt see any looting, pensioners being put in intensive care, homes and business razed and the horror that weve witnessed.
No where did I say I was worried nor did I say I didn't want the millwall fans to give them a slap. All I'm saying is there not there to protect an area. Didn't someone say a few came from bermondsy. So they care about eltham. No they don't. They know theres a chance of a ruck and thats why they are there. I hope they do batter the rioters but let's not forget millwall fans hate the police and if the rioters don't turn up I guess they will all go home a little unhappy
Peeps, can we leave all this childish tit-for-tat crap going on between yourselves and keep this thread for relevant information its getting a bit boring now thanks. Dont get this thread closed for the rest of us.
Shine said: yep... which is why I moved to Devon to go university and better myself.
Ask for your money back - it hasn't worked.
You make statements based on conjecture or hearsay and with scant regard for any official statement. Opinions are personal and therefore cannot be wrong but if you want anyone to take that opinion seriously then it has to be based on evidence. The fact that so many people have spent their time on here trying to point out that your statements are wrong should tell you, both that CL posters are concerned about their communities and that your opinions gain little or no credence. I really don't like being negative but you seem to lack any capacity for rational thought.
I studied art not law, my paintings sell and I make money so yes... it has worked
my opinion, that he may not have fired... was correct as the statement released says, that is evidence. How ever you put it, me being open minded and not judgemental turned out to be the correct way
Still stand by what i said but do hope it doesnt go pear shaped as you say. To be honest i doubt they would kick off with the police as it wouldnt put them in a good light given the current climate (well a much badder light than normal if you know what i mean.)
What WSS said. There not bothered about protecting our area. They know there's a chance of having a ruck. I want the rioters to get a slap as much as anyone but at the end of the day if the rioters don't turn up the millwall fans will prob start with the police
My god, London's just been torched by gangs of feral youth, and you're worried about football lads mobbing up in Eltham to protect the area. Open your eyes.
Agree. I dont care for that football violence malarky but after the past 48 hrs i would like the scum to get some payback and a lesson to mind their manners in future.
Thousands of people have been saying how these animals should be stopped in the last couple of days and at least these lot in Eltham have actually stood up to do something. If enough decent people got out in the streets and made a stand (ie a presence, doesnt have to be violent) you wouldnt see any looting, pensioners being put in intensive care, homes and business razed and the horror that weve witnessed.
No where did I say I was worried nor did I say I didn't want the millwall fans to give them a slap. All I'm saying is there not there to protect an area. Didn't someone say a few came from bermondsy. So they care about eltham. No they don't. They know theres a chance of a ruck and thats why they are there. I hope they do batter the rioters but let's not forget millwall fans hate the police and if the rioters don't turn up I guess they will all go home a little unhappy
Sorry but what a load of old tosh. Full of opinion and generalisation. They are there to protect eltham as the blokes twitter thing says. You saying that's not the case and that they're just there for a ruck, is a pretty crass thing to say after the recent events.
What WSS said. There not bothered about protecting our area. They know there's a chance of having a ruck. I want the rioters to get a slap as much as anyone but at the end of the day if the rioters don't turn up the millwall fans will prob start with the police
My god, London's just been torched by gangs of feral youth, and you're worried about football lads mobbing up in Eltham to protect the area. Open your eyes.
Agree. I dont care for that football violence malarky but after the past 48 hrs i would like the scum to get some payback and a lesson to mind their manners in future. Thousands of people have been saying how these animals should be stopped in the last couple of days and at least these lot in Eltham have actually stood up to do something. If enough decent people got out in the streets and made a stand (ie a presence, doesnt have to be violent) you wouldnt see any looting, pensioners being put in intensive care, homes and business razed and the horror that weve witnessed.
No where did I say I was worried nor did I say I didn't want the millwall fans to give them a slap. All I'm saying is there not there to protect an area. Didn't someone say a few came from bermondsy. So they care about eltham. No they don't. They know theres a chance of a ruck and thats why they are there. I hope they do batter the rioters but let's not forget millwall fans hate the police and if the rioters don't turn up I guess they will all go home a little unhappy
Fair enough. I'm not saying football thugs are angels but in this case they are making a stand where they can, I'm sure if they felt they could make a stand in Bermondsey, Walworth, Charlton, Woolwich etc they would but sadly that's not possible nowadays.
Shine my opinion, that he may not have fired... was correct as the statement released says, that is evidence. How ever you put it, me being open minded and not judgemental turned out to be the correct way.
You are a complete muppet. You make a series of unevidenced assertions and then when one happens to be correct you act as if you are the sage of the western world. The one thing you have demonstrated is that you aren't open-minded. Read back over the posts. And if you were open-minded you wouldn't need others to provide you with links to the IPCC website. You would have done the checking yourself (remember thinking Smiley Culture died in Bristol when it was Surrey and stating that the police were 'corupt' (sic) ???) Anyway here is the IPCC link. In future before you come on spouting your inane drivel you might want to see what is released. THEN feel free to COMMENT. http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/Pages/pr_090811_dugganupdate.aspx
To be fair to the bloke, I think he's realised he's made a ricket as he probably wasn't expecting things to get as insane as they have done. All he's doing is continuing to try and score points about details, which is a bit daft considering the hundreds of people who have been left homeless, jobless or hopeless as a result of the sickening wave of violence perpetuated by the underbelly of society.
Rising Sun is now closed. Post Office appears busy.
Group of about 200 "Eltham Defence League" in high spirits walking down the hill toward the Bingo Hall & Yorkshire Grey. If they meet any rioters, the rioters don't stand a chance - they all looked like they could handle themselves.
I have to laugh at the picture of the woman coming out of The Pound Shop with her arms loaded with goods.
About £8 worth.
Probably get about three years for that.
The angelic looking (not being sarky) chubby ten year old on his push bike with a basket ful of shopping made me chuckle as it looked as if he was a altar boy on his way to see his poorly grandmother or something!
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You cant say fairer then that. He put himself in that situation, therefore it's his own fault!!!!
Thousands of people have been saying how these animals should be stopped in the last couple of days and at least these lot in Eltham have actually stood up to do something. If enough decent people got out in the streets and made a stand (ie a presence, doesnt have to be violent) you wouldnt see any looting, pensioners being put in intensive care, homes and business razed and the horror that weve witnessed.
http://twitpic.com/63j8ia
No where did I say I was worried nor did I say I didn't want the millwall fans to give them a slap. All I'm saying is there not there to protect an area. Didn't someone say a few came from bermondsy. So they care about eltham. No they don't. They know theres a chance of a ruck and thats why they are there. I hope they do batter the rioters but let's not forget millwall fans hate the police and if the rioters don't turn up I guess they will all go home a little unhappy
Dont get this thread closed for the rest of us.
Still stand by what i said but do hope it doesnt go pear shaped as you say. To be honest i doubt they would kick off with the police as it wouldnt put them in a good light given the current climate (well a much badder light than normal if you know what i mean.)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8687177/London-riots-live.html
By the way I'm from bexleyheath but might take a trip over to enfield to protect there area
the statement released says, that is evidence. How ever you put it, me
being open minded and not judgemental turned out to be the correct way.
You are a complete muppet. You make a series of unevidenced assertions and then when one happens to be correct you act as if you are the sage of the western world. The one thing you have demonstrated is that you aren't open-minded. Read back over the posts. And if you were open-minded you wouldn't need others to provide you with links to the IPCC website. You would have done the checking yourself (remember thinking Smiley Culture died in Bristol when it was Surrey and stating that the police were 'corupt' (sic) ???) Anyway here is the IPCC link. In future before you come on spouting your inane drivel you might want to see what is released. THEN feel free to COMMENT.
http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/Pages/pr_090811_dugganupdate.aspx
Rising Sun is now closed. Post Office appears busy.
Group of about 200 "Eltham Defence League" in high spirits walking down the hill toward the Bingo Hall & Yorkshire Grey. If they meet any rioters, the rioters don't stand a chance - they all looked like they could handle themselves.
“the Police reacted after being shot at”.
“For one he fired at police”
“you cant get out of a taxi and shoot a copper without being
shot back”
all he said was
“police say he shot at them..... eye witnesses say
he didnt ?”
Who was correct?
I have to laugh at the picture of the woman coming out of The Pound Shop with her arms loaded with goods.
About £8 worth.
Probably get about three years for that.
Guardian journalist reporting around 100 white males between their 30's and 40's chasing the youths.