Yes im for real, police say he shot at them..... eye witnesses say he didnt ?
Sorry that you believe everything you are told.... although it must be a easier way to live your life.
Sounds like you're also believing what you want to hear maybe? Funny none of these witnesses have been in the media? By the way where did the bullett lodged in the Police officers radio come from if there were three shots that all hit the bloke?
I dont believe anything, thats what inquests are for. As for the damaged radio, ive not seen footage of that yet. Id rather see CCTV footage as proof anyway, it must be pretty easy to make a busted radio for evidence.
Im just trying to say not everything we are told is true and we live in a corrupt world.... if people cant see that, ignorance is bliss.
Oh please Shine166 - no doubt you were there. I know who I believe. Is it okay to carry guns then on London streets? Sorry, but anyone who does, is really open to have their life ended this way, either by rival gun gangs or by Police who are upholding law. Why are YOU demanding forensic evidence - who the fuck are you?
I dont believe anything, thats what inquests are for. As for the damaged radio, ive not seen footage of that yet. Id rather see CCTV footage as proof anyway, it must be pretty easy to make a busted radio for evidence.
Im just trying to say not everything we are told is true and we live in a corrupt world.... if people cant see that, ignorance is bliss.
old bill should be given more power anyway. i know a PCO who works in north london and she says theres no real police to be seen, thats why these gangs run riot in the first place.
Oh please Shine166 - no doubt you were there. I know who I believe. Is it okay to carry guns then on London streets? Sorry, but anyone who does, is really open to have their life ended this way, either by rival gun gangs or by Police who are upholding law. Why are YOU demanding forensic evidence - who the fuck are you?
I said evidence, not forensic....unless CCTV is forensic now days ?, massive difference. Nice to see you can have an adult discussion without losing it anyway.
Im just a person with an opinion, something which apparently isnt allowed unless its the same as yours.
By the way, suddam had enough weapons to blow up the world and Bin Laden was Al Queda.... true story
Your opinion is certainly valid and yes of course we live in a world of un truths and mis direction but sometimes you have to look at things in a more straight forward way. As the saying goes, " if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck" do you you really think that armed police arbitrarily trawl the streets executing innocent people of London or just perhaps they returned fire on an armed vilain and it ended with him dying ?
Unless my YouTube isn't working isn't that just a picture of a burning bus ? If it's true that police brutalised a girl where is the CCTV footage you are so keen about or is that being suppressed by the police as well.
Shine166 - lets have a conversation after all of the evidence in relation to the shooting has been heard and the verdict of the inquest is released. I will say nothing further on the matter...
Yes its audio from a bbc report, just trying to get a point across that witnesses are seeing one thing and the police another. Im not in charge of the CCTV so I cant comment, but yes footage should be made available.... clarity is all I ask for.
A fatal shooting in West Norwood this morning - why didn't the Police do something to prevent it happening? That will be the question from the grieving family. Hmmmmmmmmm.......... Any suggestions Shine166 - maybe a polite written request to all known armed criminals to surrender their weapons like good boys?
@shootershillguru it's a radio interview with one of the protesters, the picture isn't really relevant. Worth listening to, quite critical of the police in relation to their handling of the rioters and suggests that a lot of the statements put out by the police concerning people injured during the rioting are innaccurate.
Don't agree with the rioters behaviour at all - stealing stuff and setting fire to people's homes and businesses has got nothing to do with their apparent grievance. Having said that, I don't think the police are as squeaky clean as some on here are making out, some of those riot squad boys are very keen to start waving their batons at the first opportunity.
A fatal shooting in West Norwood this morning - why didn't the Police do something to prevent it happening? That will be the question from the grieving family. Hmmmmmmmmm.......... Any suggestions Shine166 - maybe a polite written request to all known armed criminals to surrender their weapons like good boys?
well they could have shot him in the legs ? I dont see the point in 'shooting to kill' then trying to give him cpr
Shooting at someone IS shooting to kill. You can try and avoid head, torsos etc but with guns there is a hell of a lot of damage done regardless of where they hit. The police would not decide 'What the heck, let's shoot someone at random, should be a laugh' there must have been something to make them draw weapons. The exact details do need clearing up and fast, but the rioters are just idiots.
No police force in the world have a policy of shooting to disable by shooting legs. A man shot in the legs can still pull a trigger. If and it's a big if a police officer decides to fire is always to completely disable that target. If that shot proves fatal then so be it.
Shine - please take it from me - when you innocently experience a real firearm being pointed at you from close range, any news of someone being a shot by Police whilst illegally carrying a firearm is good news indeed.
the bloke was a known gangster and carrying a gun. but yep, shoot him in the legs, that should do the trick.
Not necessarily, he doesn't fire a gun with his feet, he uses his hand and still can. The police have to stop him doing that. Besides, with all the arteries and so in the legs, there is a very good chance that an unarmoured man would die anyway from shock/blood loss, the same as if you aimed for a shoulder- no marksman would try for a hand, you just put the guy down as quick as you can.
Carrying a loaded gun around London makes you a scumbag and a legitimate target whatever the details - hearing people on the radio this morning defending him this morning was sickening. One said that they were withdrawing their support for the state...hopefully the state will reciprocate and stop paying their sodding giros and treating them when they stab each other - these idiots live on another planet as far as I can make out.
They all seem to be observing the number one rule of the modern waste of space, namely, 'everything is someone else's fault, I demand sympathy and cash'.....
I do, however, feel sorry for all the poor honest folk whose houses and businesses have been damaged by these idiots. Yeah, burning down that barbers shop really stuck it to 'the man' didn't it?
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Oh grow up. By the way we definitely landed on the moon.
Your opinion is certainly valid and yes of course we live in a world of un truths and mis direction but sometimes you have to look at things in a more straight forward way. As the saying goes, " if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck" do you you really think that armed police arbitrarily trawl the streets executing innocent people of London or just perhaps they returned fire on an armed vilain and it ended with him dying ?
Unless my YouTube isn't working isn't that just a picture of a burning bus ? If it's true that police brutalised a girl where is the CCTV footage you are so keen about or is that being suppressed by the police as well.
I will say nothing further on the matter...
@shootershillguru it's a radio interview with one of the protesters, the picture isn't really relevant. Worth listening to, quite critical of the police in relation to their handling of the rioters and suggests that a lot of the statements put out by the police concerning people injured during the rioting are innaccurate.
Don't agree with the rioters behaviour at all - stealing stuff and setting fire to people's homes and businesses has got nothing to do with their apparent grievance. Having said that, I don't think the police are as squeaky clean as some on here are making out, some of those riot squad boys are very keen to start waving their batons at the first opportunity.
Can't baton them hard enough I say.
Think VG was actually making your point !
Carrying a loaded gun around London makes you a scumbag and a legitimate target whatever the details - hearing people on the radio this morning defending him this morning was sickening. One said that they were withdrawing their support for the state...hopefully the state will reciprocate and stop paying their sodding giros and treating them when they stab each other - these idiots live on another planet as far as I can make out.
They all seem to be observing the number one rule of the modern waste of space, namely, 'everything is someone else's fault, I demand sympathy and cash'.....
I do, however, feel sorry for all the poor honest folk whose houses and businesses have been damaged by these idiots. Yeah, burning down that barbers shop really stuck it to 'the man' didn't it?